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Erulisse posted:I wish we had some crazy LE style uniques that convert all ignites to idk, poison, etc Blackflame already exists
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Mar 28, 2024 19:57
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One friend is pretty sure she either wants to play Ignite Elementalist, either Frostblink or Wave of Conviction. The Subtractem PoB for Frostblink (https://pobb.in/u/Subtractem/frostblink) looks pretty solid. Any thoughts on FB versus WoC for this? Any guide people think is better?
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Mar 28, 2024 19:59
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So is the diff between Chieftain RF and Inquis RF isz when compared to their general play style is that Chief is more tanky and boring of a walking simulator like some mid game like What Remains Of Edith Finch and Inquis is more of a sweaty walking simulator like Death Stranding?
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Mar 28, 2024 20:03
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Subtractem’s stuff is prolly okay but… ive seen a lot of complaints. Your mileage my vary Also, link the WOC video/pob. There’s some definite bait WOC builds floating around the youtube
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Mar 28, 2024 20:04
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Fb has a cooldown and you can miss. It's a bit faster when you pilot it well but lower damage. WoC is comfier, scales better, and safer because you keep some range. I don't think frostblink is especially bad for ignite per se, but I do think that if you're asking the question about which is better then you probably want to go WOC (and eventually ek if softcore  )
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Mar 28, 2024 20:09
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docbeard posted:It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out what BAMA means My brain has to shuffle through several entries in the Rolodex before landing on the right one. First is always the crimson tide ROOOWWWLL TIDEUH BAYBEH
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Mar 28, 2024 20:09
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wemgo posted:Subtractem’s stuff is prolly okay but… ive seen a lot of complaints. Your mileage my vary WoC PoB she found was here: https://pobb.in/IpZJL59iV7UU . I thought this WoC guide looks like a pretty decent one for leveling up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8C-cdsb6Ek. I don't love the early mapping setup (full reservation w/ eldritch battery and only 2.5k life) so would be interested if other people have better guides for that stage. Edit: the endgame progression for that WoC build looks good to me though -- transitions to Aegis Aurora / Incandescent Heart CI build with a shitload of ES. Setec_Astronomy fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Mar 28, 2024 20:12
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docbeard posted:It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out what BAMA means Roll tide
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Mar 28, 2024 20:15
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Bugsy posted:if you want you can change it to blink arrow by vendoring with an orb of alteration. ...wtf is this? Are there other gems that work like this? The wiki only shows blink and mirror for orb of alt. Is there a reason they added this swap? whypick1 posted:How boring and small "literally the size of my penis" - twitch chat
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Mar 28, 2024 20:18
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xZAOx posted:...wtf is this? Are there other gems that work like this? The wiki only shows blink and mirror for orb of alt. Is there a reason they added this swap? Check under the gem section in the vendor recipe page. I have no clue why that's a trade. I thought it was something like trade between two travel skills but it's not. https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Vendor_recipe_system
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Mar 28, 2024 20:25
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pork never goes bad posted:go WOC (and eventually ek if softcore  xZAOx posted:...wtf is this? Are there other gems that work like this? The wiki only shows blink and mirror for orb of alt. Is there a reason they added this swap? Nope, just Blink/Mirror Arrow have any sort of vendor recipe (and that one works both ways), unless you count Block Chance Reduction, which I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't realize existed. Setec_Astronomy posted:WoC PoB she found was here: https://pobb.in/IpZJL59iV7UU . Was planning on just doing the Maxroll one (which is the leveling portion of their Maw of Mischief build) before transitioning into EK, but I'll have to look into Jorgin's again (wrote it off because the level 100 was still showing alt-quality gems but that appears to be a pobb.in problem).
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Mar 28, 2024 20:31
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EVIL Gibson posted:So is the diff between Chieftain RF and Inquis RF isz when compared to their general play style is that Chief is more tanky and boring of a walking simulator like some mid game like What Remains Of Edith Finch and Inquis is more of a sweaty walking simulator like Death Stranding? Inquisitor is very comfy since its so heavy on regen. It also has way more damage, both from the ascendancy and from having a sizable ES pool, which scales RF way better than Chieftain does. Chieftain has easy access to 90 max res and explosions, but it has no damage modifiers whatsoever I wouldnt call Chieftain more tanky though. You do have 90 max res, but Inquisitor will easily get you to 84/85 while having way more EHP thanks to your ES pool. I personally would always go for Inquisitor. Your damage in any situations where you cant get explosions (pure single target or bad luck) will feel really bad.
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Mar 28, 2024 20:32
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Setec_Astronomy posted:WoC PoB she found was here: https://pobb.in/IpZJL59iV7UU . I agree about the lack of early defenses. I trust “pork never goes bad” and “whypick”’s posts above though. Subtractem and jorgen builds tend to be a bit risky is all. There’s better builds, but if you want to follow a theme or go off meta then its fine. Honestly, im probably splitting hairs
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Mar 28, 2024 20:34
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both the subtractm builds ive tried have been... suboptimal lol
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Mar 28, 2024 20:35
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Yeah but chieftain explosions make a satisfying sound.
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Mar 28, 2024 20:35
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Subtractem took an optimized srs guardian start build last league, made it worse, then made a ton of content around it. It’s… bizarre, but some people love him
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Mar 28, 2024 20:36
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Pohx loves the chieftain sets enemies fire dot resists to -20 for mapping fwiw
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Mar 28, 2024 20:51
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euphronius posted:Pohx loves the chieftain sets enemies fire dot resists to -20 for mapping fwiw Vaal arctic armor meta
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Mar 28, 2024 21:00
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I’ve been burned by Subtractem and Allie builds before. I wouldn’t say they’re bait (maybe Allies are) but something has always just felt off about them
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Mar 28, 2024 21:07
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Wuxi posted:Inquisitor is very comfy since its so heavy on regen. It also has way more damage, both from the ascendancy and from having a sizable ES pool, which scales RF way better than Chieftain does. Now to make sure I am more thoroughly confused, what is the gearing like for both? Heard from PHoX that the chieftain can literally be set to t16 for much less than Inquis.
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Mar 28, 2024 21:09
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wemgo posted:Subtractem took an optimized srs guardian start build last league, made it worse, then made a ton of content around it. yeah i played it and had to reroll immediately GodspeedYou!Witchy posted:I’ve been burned by Subtractem and Allie builds before. I wouldn’t say they’re bait (maybe Allies are) but something has always just felt off about them ironically ive also played 2 allie builds and they were both really good. maybe i just got lucky tho lol they were caustic arrow/deaths oath and cocfr tho so obiovusly just an adaptation/update of a known thing, and both are sort of specific and probably pretty hard to mess up outside of actually breaking them
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Mar 28, 2024 21:15
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deadeye for me. easy to buy aurabots and cursebots on the open market at dirt cheap prices.
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Mar 28, 2024 21:26
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EVIL Gibson posted:Now to make sure I am more thoroughly confused, what is the gearing like for both? Heard from PHoX that the chieftain can literally be set to t16 for much less than Inquis. Chieftain can save Suffix space by scaling Cold/Lightning through stacking Fire Resistance, but has to get Life Regen and Life Regeneration Rate somewhere to get good sustain. Inquisitor needs to put a bigger emphasis on resistances, but gets all the sustain it needs for free. On Inquisitor you absolutely want Corrupted Soul (either from Replica Soul Tether or a Glorious Vanity), but I pushed to 100 without it before, its not mandatory, just extremely good. I'd put Inquisitor above Chieftain by a pretty wide margin if you want to get into t16s on random rares. Chieftain has no damage whatsoever and is entirely reliant on explosions.
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Mar 28, 2024 21:36
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTTixqnBUyc Maybe this is the league I finally try mines. This looks p cool. Early PoBs look reasonable as well e: Comes with a maxroll guide as well https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/exsanguinate-miner-trickster-league-starter
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Mar 28, 2024 21:39
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Changed my mind again. Think I'll go Splitting Steel Champ. Looks fun and, more importantly, simple enough for me. But that will change a few more times before tomorrow.
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Mar 28, 2024 21:46
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Paying2Lurk posted:But that will change a few more times before tomorrow. You're well on your way to becoming a PoE vet now. 
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Mar 28, 2024 21:47
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Wuxi posted:Chieftain can save Suffix space by scaling Cold/Lightning through stacking Fire Resistance, but has to get Life Regen and Life Regeneration Rate somewhere to get good sustain. Inquisitor needs to put a bigger emphasis on resistances, but gets all the sustain it needs for free. It's weird that this is not the meta opinion afaict. I don't know enough about RF to actually make any firm claims myself but every time I see someone try to explain why chieftain is better it sounds like they're grasping at straws and whenever I read wuxi explaining why they prefer Inquisitor it sounds very plausible. Idgi.
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Mar 28, 2024 21:49
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I tried to make a chieftain this league and everything was poo poo
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Mar 28, 2024 21:53
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Traitorous Leopard posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTTixqnBUyc yeah it looks really insane esp if you just want to blast maps, v tempting
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Mar 28, 2024 21:53
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I've played both the Subtractem SRS and frostblink and had a ton of fun with both. They probably require a lot of gearing investment to take all the way but work well for starters. Thinking of starting frostblink again. The playstyle won't be for everyone but blinking from pack to pack feels really powerful if timed right - got to keep an eye on the cooldown though.
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Mar 28, 2024 21:59
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Paying2Lurk posted:Changed my mind again. Think I'll go Splitting Steel Champ. Looks fun and, more importantly, simple enough for me. But that will change a few more times before tomorrow. It's a really strong build. I was able to do 6-8K juice with it last league in the first week. This league is going to be a hell of a lot easier, so even better. The early uniques were pretty cheap besides the +proj sword, but you can use two of the other unique swords in the interim. Nimis then sky rockets your dps. I do weep for your lack of +proj charms though. If the build looks fun to you, I would go for it. It would be my second choice behind LA Deadeye.
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Mar 28, 2024 22:00
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Traitorous Leopard posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTTixqnBUyc This is what I'm doing for league start. Gimmie red explosions!
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Mar 28, 2024 22:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-rHD7e2DmY lmao i love jousis shoulda known it was him when they said someone broke the entire demo with a shotgun lol
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Mar 28, 2024 22:05
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bawfuls posted:so it's not actually that bad for bosses then? Cause I was thinking of aiming for a boss rushing strat anyway. I mean Ben explains how good it is in the zizaran video but again, you gotta map to get to bosses and apparently 2-button builds make me die so 
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Mar 28, 2024 22:24
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Pohx says the -20 to fire dot resists on juiced maps is extremely strong for damage Also for map clear you can end up prolifing the 500% explode which is strong for clear
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Mar 28, 2024 22:43
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GodspeedYou!Witchy posted:I’ve been burned by Subtractem and Allie builds before. I wouldn’t say they’re bait (maybe Allies are) but something has always just felt off about them I'm running an Allie build this season so wish me luck :o7:
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Mar 28, 2024 23:01
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I think the coc dd is going to be banger. I watched mathils restrospective of affliction and … melee is fine ?? https://youtu.be/etzmpe785S8?si=SV1o85XbZFdXuYMd https://youtu.be/GvS8-m1dl3g?si=gGwsD19VaAGbMeoi https://youtu.be/N1pmyXFxjYQ?si=9mbjtHCfh_nSRBux euphronius fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Mar 28, 2024 23:02
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Big Mad Drongo posted:I'm running an Allie build this season so wish me luck :o7: To be clear I do think she makes fine builds. My only issue with her builds was 1. the first build I followed said to level as Poison Conc and then switch after you've done heist a bit to get the currency and that felt terrible. Later I saw a clip of her asking her chat for some chaos so she could buy the unique needed to switch and that also felt bad. 2. Some of her guides felt like "play nonstop for 8 hours and after 50 or so div you will easily push through the rough parts of this build" which is true but also I don't know, feels weird in a build guide. Overall I think there's just build creators you gel with and some you don't but I do think she makes very thorough guides so I'm sure you'll be fine. Also it was funny as hell when she yoinked that dudes apothecary card.
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Mar 28, 2024 23:08
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I started thinking I'd farm Merc lab to sell gems for the COC dd build and other random trans gems and after researching that coc dd build more to figure out what other gear for it I could make and sell now I'm gonna start the fucken thing it looks so good And it's not like a leveled Inquisitor with COC gear is gonna be hard to find other fun things to do with either. I love the idea of using lancing steel to proc ice spear too.
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Mar 28, 2024 23:09
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You can “easy” transfer to a energy blade build yeah or some other coc
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Mar 28, 2024 23:10
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