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Don't assume that the Libs feel any compulsion to justify their positions, to avoid looking like hypocrites, or to act in any sort of logical or rational fashion other than to pursue the agenda set out by the party room, and the BCA/IPA/Rupert Murdoch. Similarly, don't assume that their rusted on base will give a gently caress about any of it. Look at the US - Trump is basically a walking disaster from any rational angle, yet he's still pulling high 30s overall and high 40s in the "traditionally Republican" camp. Don't get me wrong, I think enough Australians see through their bullshit right now, and while there's no real respect for Shorten, the alternative is to basically wait for them to gently caress up in a way that has really really terrible consequences, and gets people killed. The "libertarian" part of the Liberal Party creed means nothing. They don't create smaller governments, they don't vote in favour of greater freedoms for private citizens, and they will only grant concessions for donors. That's ALL they're for.
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yeah remind me why people are staying in jobs where they are getting their pay basically halved? if they told me they were cutting my wage 10% I would quit that day.
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Because they have no choice. Unless you're in a very senior or highly sought/specialist role there's probably a graduate in a call center, supermarket or dole office right now who wants the job and doesn't know how much you were getting paid
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Laserface posted:yeah remind me why people are staying in jobs where they are getting their pay basically halved? I took a 5% pay cut 2 years ago. That's the only movement my pay has had in 4 years. It's me, I'm the flat wages.
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Laserface posted:yeah remind me why people are staying in jobs where they are getting their pay basically halved? Because in a lot of industries - education being one of the main culprits - casualisation is so complete that you have to choose between telling your boss to get hosed and having a permanent job for the next 12-18 months.
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Laserface posted:yeah remind me why people are staying in jobs where they are getting their pay basically halved? some people need money to purchase things they need to survive such as food and housing
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The ABC, Not News.com.au posted:Peter Dutton, their hard man, has gone from the minister Mr Turnbull didn't want on Cabinet's national security committee to the Prime Minister's adviser and protector, recently rewarded with the creation of the proposed home affairs portfolio.
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I'm the Fake News Knight
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Oh no not safe schools. I hate when schools are safe. Better make sure the gays can't get married so that schools can remain unsafe. Still haven't seen these ghouls make an argument that involves marriage yet.
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GoldStandardConure posted:I'm the Fake News Knight It's a hoplite get it right. I like it when people are so out of touch that they make agitprop that's only effective to their specific in-group.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:What's the logo on Thought Police's shield? AT&T?
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:It's a hoplite get it right. Wasn't casual sodomy and general homosexuality 100% ok with the Spartans? You know who else is a rainbow horse? 
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Smegmatron posted:Oh no not safe schools. I hate when schools are safe. Better make sure the gays can't get married so that schools can remain unsafe. All the anti-marriage equality arguments basically involve slobbering "graargh gays bad" while they desperately suppress thoughts of hot steamy man on man or woman on woman action, desperately hoping their red face is interpreted as anger instead of closeted arousal. Because you know that's exactly what's eating them up inside.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:It's a hoplite get it right. no because everything must be viewed through a lense of ancient english tradition
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Well that sure was a wild ride. Now who's going to do September's OP? Will it be JBP with a haughty centrist trade unionist sequel? Will Hookshot return us to the frozen waste of Canadaland? Will GoldStandardConure step up and present something with all birds and no content? Stay tuned!
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Doctor Spaceman posted:What's the logo on Thought Police's shield? 
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GoldStandardConure posted:no because everything must be viewed through a lense of ancient english tradition I think you mean "relatively recent English tradition that has been projected backwards so as to assume it is as it has always been". EDIT: From limited googling: 'Indeed, it was not until the 1215 Fourth Lateran Council that the church prohibited incest, asserted that only a indissoluble monogamous marriage was appropriate, and declared that there must be a publication of banns before a marriage could take place.' So historically, since Jesus, we've had 400 more years of polygamy and incest marriages than we've had without them. hooman fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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open24hours posted:What is an offensive term then? Refugee? homophobe
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 Also Edit: A Melbourne coffee franchise has been suspended from the government's flagship youth internship program after BuzzFeed News revealed two workers were chasing unpaid wages. "The department has looked into this case and has determined it was a clear violation and has now suspended this employer from the program," a Department of Employment spokesperson told BuzzFeed News. "The department urges all young people to notify their employment service provider or the department directly and immediately if they are unsure about their internship agreement." In its 2016 federal budget, the government introduced the controversial scheme where young people could voluntarily earn $200 a fortnight — which as BuzzFeed News identified could equate to as little as $4 per hour — on top of their current welfare payments, for the duration of a four-to-12 week internship. The program launched in April. Under the Youth Jobs PaTH policy, businesses receive an upfront $1,000 payment from the government for taking on the intern, who works for a minimum of 30 hours and maximum of 50 hours per fortnight. Newstart allowance recipient Lauren (not her real name) agreed to start a PaTH internship at an Espresso Lane coffee chain franchise in Wollert on Melbourne's northern fringe in early July. But before she had even signed a contract, the 19-year-old said she was rostered on for two eight-hour days over a weekend.  "[The manager] said he would give me gift cards [as payment], but he didn't say when," the 19-year-old told BuzzFeed News."I hadn't been informed about what the internship was, and I hadn't even seen the contract at this point. "I still haven't got any money [for the 16 hours of work], or the gift cards." A Melbourne man, David, told BuzzFeed News yesterday he was chasing more than $2,000 in lost wages after he worked unpaid overtime for the same business. His time sheets show he worked 58 hours in his third week at the cafe. He said that on three occasions he was offered a $50 Visa gift card for the extra hours of work. "I said I didn't want the $50 gift card, I either wanted to be on wages, or working to the conditions of the internship," David said. Lauren's mother Mary (also not her real name) told BuzzFeed News she contacted AMES Australia, which had lined up the internship for Lauren, her daughter's case worker, and the Department of Employment. Here is an email in which Mary expresses concern that her daughter had been asked to work before she had "even signed onto the program". Anidav fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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It used to be that visiting musicians were buttonholed as soon as they got off the plane by eager reporters keen to know what they thought of Australia. These days, they just get thrown in the slammer. That, at least, was the fate that befell American indie artist Colleen Green, whose Australian tour has been called off following her detention and deportation by immigration and border control officers in Melbourne. Green had been scheduled to kick off her short Australian tour in Byron Bay on Friday night, with gigs in Brisbane, Sydney, Wollongong and Melbourne to follow, before winding up the tour with a show in Ballarat on Sunday September 10. Alas, it was not to be. Green posted about her experience on Facebook on Friday afternoon, describing the past few days since leaving Los Angeles as "emotional, exhausting, and tumultuous". She arrived in Melbourne this week, via Auckland, with no guitar but a few pieces of merchandise in her luggage. That was enough to make the immigration officials suspicious. "The promoter of my Australian tour told me he had secured a visa for me and to just say I'm visiting friends and everything would be fine," Green writes. "I really had no reason to doubt this as I have travelled all over the world to perform and have done so many times under the pretence of 'tourism' with no incident." However, "after a very thorough search of my bags, the officers decided I was lying. They took my iPad, phone and passport. They looked up my tour dates on the internet … they took me to an interrogation room where I waited, was interrogated on tape, waited more, was interrogated more, waited more, and finally was told that my visa was being cancelled." About seven hours after stepping off the plane, Green was driven to an immigration detention centre (presumably in Maribyrnong, though she says only that it was about a half-hour journey), where she was photographed and fingerprinted. She has no complaints about her treatment, saying "the officers at the centre were actually really nice and fun". The following morning, she was taken back to the airport for deportation. Being escorted by half a dozen immigration officers determined to make sure she left the country wasn't all bad, Green admits, "because I didn't have to wait in any of those wack rear end lines, and I also got to board the plane first". But it wasn't all good, either. "I felt like a totally busted criminal dummy, when all I had been trying to do was play music and see a new country." A spokesman for Bone Soup said the small promoter was "deeply saddened" by this situation, and said refunds were being automatically sent to all ticket buyers. He added that Bone Soup was "deeply embarrassed" that it had failed to arrange the appropriate documentation in time. "Letting down an artist and having her experience what she has, as well as letting her fans down, is a terrible thing," he said. "This has been a harsh lesson and we have made a mistake that we will never make again. We are doing our best to allay the situation and reschedule a tour for the future."
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Lid posted:It used to be that visiting musicians were buttonholed as soon as they got off the plane by eager reporters keen to know what they thought of Australia. These days, they just get thrown in the slammer. 
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Lid posted:It used to be that visiting musicians were buttonholed as soon as they got off the plane by eager reporters keen to know what they thought of Australia. These days, they just get thrown in the slammer. That's not the first time I have heard of this. The managers have actually done the wrong thing by applying her on the wrong visa. Happened to a couple of contestants on Rupaul's drag race that frequently do tours after the show has aired. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAoLVDmHUJc
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Everyone poo poo on me for making the thread eight hours early and you lazy loving cretins can't even get one up by 8pm on the 1st. This is why the left fails. Anyone that posted their annual stock report yesterday is exempt.
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jubileeeeeeeeeeee
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(Green also says that Border Security, the show on Channel 7, asked her for permission to film “her story”; she declined.)
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gently caress Amber Heard & Johnny Depp. Just because Barnaby sucks doesn't mean they aren't disrespectful assholes.
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Lid posted:It used to be that visiting musicians were buttonholed as soon as they got off the plane by eager reporters keen to know what they thought of Australia. These days, they just get thrown in the slammer.  Who could have foreseen such committing easily verifiable fraud would go so wrong? The promoter is a fuckwit for giving that advice because they didn't want to pay for the slightly more expensive working visa and the artist was naive. https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/us-indie-pop-muso-colleen-green-deported-by-immigration-ahead-of-aus-tour/ "Even more gallingly, a Temporary Activity visa for entertainers visiting Australia costs about $280, and has an average 10-day turnaround – not exactly difficult hoops to jump through to bring a hotly anticipated Californian garage act to the east coast." What. A. loving. Cheapskate. Piece of poo poo. DancingShade fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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JBP posted:Everyone poo poo on me for making the thread eight hours early and you lazy loving cretins can't even get one up by 8pm on the 1st. The delay in the new thread rollout is entirely the fault of the frivolous previous op.
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well why not posted:gently caress Amber Heard & Johnny Depp. Just because Barnaby sucks doesn't mean they aren't disrespectful assholes. It's baddies vs baddies.
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Zenithe posted:The delay in the new thread rollout is entirely the fault of the frivolous previous op. Can we please get an adult in charge of the new thread
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DancingShade posted:
maybe i'm reading into this too much but i feel like the subtext here is "she's a nice white american girl why is border force bothering her???"
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Smegmatron posted:Oh no not safe schools. I hate when schools are safe. Better make sure the gays can't get married so that schools can remain unsafe. There's no need any more to make schools safe, don't you see. We have untrained, unsupervised chaplains looking after the children. What could possibly go wrong? 
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