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etalian posted:Madrid is a much better city It's chillier as hell but it had some magnificent museums and theaters.
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Plutonis posted:It's chillier as hell but it had some magnificent museums and theaters. Still really nice mediterranean climate especially in the summer months.
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safely sodomized posted:mainland chinese tourists are by far the worst yeah. saw them nearly cause a riot in bangkok because their tour groups wouldnt get out of the way for any other tourists and started fighting with police lol http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40842853
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zeal posted:itt: goons outraged that their willingness to be robbed blind by exploitative businesses does not automatically make them welcome among the people those businesses exploit for cheap, desperate labor im sorry but if you hate tourists you are basically just a dumb xenophobic gently caress. everyone should travel more
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Kurtofan posted:i fully support german waiters conning dumb americans who dont know how tipping works in other countries  implying tipping works in america
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babypolis posted:everyone should travel more
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babypolis posted:im sorry but if you hate tourists you are basically just a dumb xenophobic gently caress. everyone should travel more lol
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babypolis posted:im sorry but if you hate tourists you are basically just a dumb xenophobic gently caress. everyone should travel more You're one step away from complaining about reverse racism.
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MizPiz posted:You're one step away from complaining about reverse racism. what just because something is exploitative under capitalism it doesn't make that thing inherently exploitative. if you got rid of tourists thw only thing you would accomplish would be reducing the wealth of your city, which would disproportionately affect the working class people while the capitalists land on their feet as always. its like free trade, yes under capitalism its exploitative but getting rid of it only hurts you, the focus should be on getting rid of capitalismn
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my city has an ancient cathedral, medieval walls, the remains and assorted cool stuff from the last 2000 years of habitation but really tourists just want to see the chocolate factory and buy tat from lovely souvenir shops squatting in medieval hovels. tourists are bad.
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discouraging tourism to tourist economies so as to force change is accelerationism and last I checked that's *scrolls through poo poo-dnd-says.txt* bougie whiteboy bullshit *looks up and adjusts glasses*
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babypolis posted:im sorry but if you hate tourists you are basically just a dumb xenophobic gently caress. everyone should travel more EVERYONE hates tourists.
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Ath a Catalan lefthith I am appalled by the condithonth of the working clath thitithenth, but ath a devout thenophobe I muth blame the idiot Americanth who vithit our beautiful thities to akthidentally tip too much and are conthithtently thurprithed at how white we are
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in NYC, we just internally dismiss everyone who does something stupid as a tourist and go along with our lives
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get that OUT of my face posted:in NYC, we just internally dismiss everyone who does something stupid as a tourist and go along with our lives That's because you're average New Yorker is just as stupid and entitled as your average tourist. It's drat near impossible to differentiate the two.
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Thug Lessons posted:EVERYONE hates tourists. i like them. i think its cool someone would appreciate the place i live in to the point where they spend valuable time and money to go there
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babypolis posted:im sorry but if you hate tourists you are basically just a dumb xenophobic gently caress. everyone should travel more
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if you hate tourists you just wait for the next group to roll in, eventually you'll find tourists you like
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if you hate tourists you aint cookin em right
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Tourists make a few things better and a lot of things worse. But if tourism wasn't a net positive for a country then governments around the world wouldn't promote it so heavily. It seems to create mercenary free for alls in poor countries and in rich countries its just icing on the cake. What it doesn't do is turn poor countries into rich countries. Poor countries become rich off productive industry, not tourism. Making stuff
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the worst thing is posted:Tourists make a few things better and a lot of things worse. But if tourism wasn't a net positive for a country then governments around the world wouldn't promote it so heavily. Pretty much. Tourism is very nice as an additional industry in a functioning area, but when it's the only thing a place has, said place rapidly turns into a hellhole for its native inhabitants who are expected to smile and treat obnoxious foreigners like kings for a pittance.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Pretty much. Tourism is very nice as an additional industry in a functioning area, but when it's the only thing a place has, said place rapidly turns into a hellhole for its native inhabitants who are expected to smile and treat obnoxious foreigners like kings for a pittance. yeah thats cool and good in theory but in practice you will always have areas that are mostly dedicated to tourism. take somewhere like cancun for example. if suddenly all the tourists left, you think the capitalist class would divert their resources into factories? no they would gently caress off and go somewhere else. even in a socialist country it wouldnt make sense to have factories instead of hotels in a tropical paradise thats far away from the production and consumer centers in the rest of the country. chasing away the tourists does nothing but reduce the power and wealth of the workers in the area
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doesn't the VAT tourists pay on the various stuff they buy go into social services that benefit these people? (universal health care, cheap education, and all that other good eurosocialism stuff)
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tourist appeal is a characteristic inherent to the particular location. it's not going to go away and that appeal isn't what makes the area rich or poor
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maskenfreiheit posted:doesn't the VAT tourists pay on the various stuff they buy go into social services that benefit these people? (universal health care, cheap education, and all that other good eurosocialism stuff) lol
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maskenfreiheit posted:doesn't the VAT tourists pay on the various stuff they buy go into social services that benefit these people? (universal health care, cheap education, and all that other good eurosocialism stuff) tourists get VAT rebates in most places around the world. tourists arent supposed to be paying VAT.
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Thug Lessons posted:Americans are some of the worst tourists on earth but at least they're not Israelis Wow, the British , German , Italian , Israeli and Chinese are all way worse.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:loving shoobies
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tourism is cultural appropriation on a global scale. we should properly segregate all peoples to their country of birth, to ensure no culture is diluted by selfish foreigners
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i'm going touring in america later this year, and will show you the cultural might of the large aussie pint drinking skills, compared to your culturally inferior baby pints then i will be shot by the police
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kibaces posted:my god is this really C-SPAM? My progressive opinion is that they should be thankful to have better people turning their beautiful city into a toilet.
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I have been priced out of the city centre, oh how wonderful.
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The problem isn't with tourism per se, it's with tourism that is hostile to the locals. With tourists who use exclusive tourist only bars and restaurants that replace original local establishments, with tourists who have no desire to coexist with the locals, and with the businesses that cater to them and push others out of tourist areas. I swear if I see yet another local place converted into an "Irish pub" for rowdy Brits who then proceed to vandalize the surrounding areas, I'm going to flip my poo poo.
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For all its many, many issues, the SoDoSoPa episode of South Park captured what gentrification is like for the residents pretty well. IE, being perpetually under siege by noisy tourists and rich people having fun all around you that you can't afford to join in on.
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steinrokkan posted:The problem isn't with tourism per se, it's with tourism that is hostile to the locals. With tourists who use exclusive tourist only bars and restaurants that replace original local establishments, with tourists who have no desire to coexist with the locals, and with the businesses that cater to them and push others out of tourist areas. I swear if I see yet another local place converted into an "Irish pub" for rowdy Brits who then proceed to vandalize the surrounding areas, I'm going to flip my poo poo.
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My Cancun experience was gross and I hated being waited on by over-eager staff almost as much as I hated how over-the-moon our resort restaurant waiter was when we were tipped him $20.00 Good vanilla drinks tho
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maskenfreiheit posted:doesn't the VAT tourists pay on the various stuff they buy go into social services that benefit these people? (universal health care, cheap education, and all that other good eurosocialism stuff)
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