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babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

zeal posted:

itt: goons outraged that their willingness to be robbed blind by exploitative businesses does not automatically make them welcome among the people those businesses exploit for cheap, desperate labor

im sorry but if you hate tourists you are basically just a dumb xenophobic gently caress. everyone should travel more

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babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

MizPiz posted:

You're one step away from complaining about reverse racism.

what

just because something is exploitative under capitalism it doesn't make that thing inherently exploitative. if you got rid of tourists thw only thing you would accomplish would be reducing the wealth of your city, which would disproportionately affect the working class people while the capitalists land on their feet as always. its like free trade, yes under capitalism its exploitative but getting rid of it only hurts you, the focus should be on getting rid of capitalismn

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Thug Lessons posted:

EVERYONE hates tourists.

i like them. i think its cool someone would appreciate the place i live in to the point where they spend valuable time and money to go there

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Inescapable Duck posted:

Pretty much. Tourism is very nice as an additional industry in a functioning area, but when it's the only thing a place has, said place rapidly turns into a hellhole for its native inhabitants who are expected to smile and treat obnoxious foreigners like kings for a pittance.

yeah thats cool and good in theory but in practice you will always have areas that are mostly dedicated to tourism. take somewhere like cancun for example. if suddenly all the tourists left, you think the capitalist class would divert their resources into factories? no they would gently caress off and go somewhere else. even in a socialist country it wouldnt make sense to have factories instead of hotels in a tropical paradise thats far away from the production and consumer centers in the rest of the country. chasing away the tourists does nothing but reduce the power and wealth of the workers in the area

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

steinrokkan posted:

The problem isn't with tourism per se, it's with tourism that is hostile to the locals. With tourists who use exclusive tourist only bars and restaurants that replace original local establishments, with tourists who have no desire to coexist with the locals, and with the businesses that cater to them and push others out of tourist areas. I swear if I see yet another local place converted into an "Irish pub" for rowdy Brits who then proceed to vandalize the surrounding areas, I'm going to flip my poo poo.

there are lots of irish pubs where i live too and its not because british tourists

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

the trump tutelage posted:

My Cancun experience was gross and I hated being waited on by over-eager staff almost as much as I hated how over-the-moon our resort restaurant waiter was when we were tipped him $20.00

Good vanilla drinks tho

i mean you did tip your waiter the equivalent of 5 days of minimum wage, thats easily more than the rest of his earnings for the day

go to playa del carmen or isla mujeres or tulum next time, cancun sucks

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babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

did you visit any pyramids

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