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spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40826257



quote:

Youths in Catalonia and the Basque Country have daubed the slogan "tourists go home" on some buildings - just as foreigners flock to Spain on holiday, spending millions of euros.

A spokesperson for leftist Catalans behind the protests said today's model of mass tourism was impoverishing working-class people.

quote:

In one dramatic incident, several masked assailants attacked a tourist bus in Barcelona, near the football stadium.

The slogan "tourism is killing neighbourhoods" was daubed on the bus and one of its tyres was punctured. None of the passengers were injured.

quote:

Arran says it opposes a model of mass tourism that "wants us as slaves" and that "turns the country into an amusement park that only benefits the bourgeoisie and capital!"

Thoughts? When I was at college I worked 2 jobs in a hotel and restaurant, so I guess that qualifies in the same area? If they scare off all the tourists, aren't they just hurting themselves and their economy?

Plus calling it an "invasion" when these people come, spend a lot of money, boost the economy, then leave, seems very untrue to me.

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spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

go cry to dungeons and dragons about it, comprador

Not sure what that means?

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

tourism is absolutely an invasion

dollars and pounds are tools of imperialism

I have some bitcoins.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
This seems massively off topic so far though.

No response to the actual BBC (pretty neutral source) article ?

Seems quite threatening and self-harming. Was hoping for some insight into that rather just someone espousing personal beliefs.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

WELCOME TO C SPAM

WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A MODERATOR

Not really, just talk to rational people that have differing views.

Should this have gone in D&D?

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

get that OUT of my face posted:

neymar deserved to leave, you ungrateful shits

How is a <googles> professional footballer, earning millions, related to people just visiting for tourism who have to deal with smoke bombs, intimidation, tyres being slashed and so on?

Please have some perspective.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

super sweet best pal posted:

They aren't the ones getting the money, or at least not enough to justify the huge dip in their standard of living.

So it is better to make sure noone has any money? I am not going to visit a place where I am attacked or intimidated.

So there is the huge dip, from people who don't enjoy such things.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

rudatron posted:

If you live in an area with a viable tourist industry, that creates local jobs, you're already really privileged.

I'd rather be earning money than not, for sure. Do you have more to say on this?

It seems crazy to me that fairly young people would go this nuts about actually having jobs.

Scaring people, criminal damage, intimidation, racisim...

I could understand if they were in a place with no jobs because, well, there are no jobs, but this seems crazy.

spud has issued a correction as of 06:30 on Aug 5, 2017

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

no, thats why the first fukken response said go to d&d!!!!!!!!!

Alright mate, calm down. Screaming at people asking innocent questions was a thing of the past I thought.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Is rationality weird here?

We used to have like 4 forums.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I just linked a BBC article.

If you find it that hard talk about, then don't comment.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

logikv9 posted:

C-SPAM means off-topic everything, everywhere, especially at night. You might have better luck when it hits daytime on the East Coast. Good thread and good topic though!

No idea who you are, but thanks.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
If you can visit Barcelona and go and see the Sagrada Família, then please do. I visted it about 10 years ago, and it was beautiful even then.

Do not be intimidated by idiots as:

"Construction on Sagrada Família is not supported by any government or official church sources. Private patrons funded the initial stages.[44] Money from tickets purchased by tourists is now used to pay for the work, and private donations are accepted through the Friends of the Sagrada Família."



I am also not into football at all, but the Camp Nou was pretty impressive too.

spud has issued a correction as of 08:25 on Aug 5, 2017

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Pluskut Tukker posted:

Tourism amounts to 12% of the city's GDP. By way of comparison, NYC, a city of 8.5 million inhabitants, received ~58 million visitors last year. Barcelona, a city of 1.6 million people, received around 32 million visitors, with 8+ million staying overnight.That's a lot of people walking around with wheeled suitcases, going out until all hours of the night and making noise keeping people awake. It's also a lot of people staying at apartments that have effectively been turned into AirBnB hotels, driving up the price of housing where it becomes unaffordable for people from Barcelona itself.

Thanks man/woman. This is what I was looking for.

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spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Should I post this in D&D instead instead?

Read both descriptions and it seemed here was more appropriate.

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