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It is actually very important that, when the ship is suddenly attacked, no one takes any action until the captain orders the shields raised. Also when an anomaly appears nearby you should never put it on the screen until the captain tells you to.
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Can you imagine how annoying it would be to have your video interrupted at the best part just because some ensign just had to show some dang space error?
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withak posted:It is actually very important that, when the ship is suddenly attacked, no one takes any action until the captain orders the shields raised. Also when an anomaly appears nearby you should never put it on the screen until the captain tells you to. And when you do, you should put on the screen really tiny
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I saw posts and was worried they said it was canceled, glad it was just someone new discovering the show! Also hard/realistic space battle stuff always sounds so boring, the only people who find it interesting are people who think algebra is exciting.
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Nov 20, 2023 06:09
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Alan Dean Foster sidestepped it pretty well in "The Damned" trilogy. "Actual spacecraft are insane FTL machines that fire weapons beyond our comprehension. Those fights last seconds and basically only happen while a ship is dumping hordes of ground troops before loving back off to lightspeed. The real fighting is on the ground."
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Nov 20, 2023 06:12
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I like the part in one of the Culture books where someone is watching anxiously as a Ship narrates its maneuvers as it fights a space battle, then the ship is like “oh this was all over in less than a second, I just thought you might be interested in seeing the slo-mo playback.”
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twistedmentat posted:I saw posts and was worried they said it was canceled, glad it was just someone new discovering the show! The Expanse handled it really well, and some of those space battles looked amazing.
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Nov 20, 2023 06:26
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These are the voyages of the men's room in the Logan airport.
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swickles posted:The Expanse handled it really well, and some of those space battles looked amazing. Yeah, especially at the start of the show when a ship blows up, and because it's space and nothing slows down effectively just becomes a cloud of high speed bullets.
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I like the concept of Farcasters from the Hyperion books better, since they make more sense. Mini wormholes.
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Combat Pretzel posted:I like the concept of Farcasters from the Hyperion books better, since they make more sense. Mini wormholes. The Catholic version of interstellar travel was the most metal one in Hyperion, tbh
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CPColin posted:And when you do, you should put on the screen really tiny Picard: [irritably] Magnify.
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Taear posted:Yea, we see Barclay has consciousness through the teleport, categorically it doesn't work that way The new Barclay clone has all the memories of the old, dead Barclay, how would you even tell the difference? You'd have the old short term memories blend right in for the new consciousnesses. The truly disturbing thing about this is they all know this and are okay with it. McCoy was right.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:The new Barclay clone has all the memories of the old, dead Barclay, how would you even tell the difference? You'd have the old short term memories blend right in for the new consciousnesses. You see out of his eyes for the entire time He grabs something
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:The new Barclay clone has all the memories of the old, dead Barclay, how would you even tell the difference? You'd have the old short term memories blend right in for the new consciousnesses. souls are real in star trek and they follow the transporter beam
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:souls are real in star trek and they follow the transporter beam All transporter equipment has to be blessed by the Space Pope before it can ever be used, this is canon
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Taear posted:You see out of his eyes for the entire time And it's directly contravened by other Star Trek shows, including other episodes of TNG, that point out that you can store people in a transporter buffer and they experience nothing. Scotty, in Relics, spends 70 years in a transporter loop and comes out having not experienced that time consciously. Can you imagine if he had? 70 years in a formless black void? He'd be stark raving mad. It's Star Trek. They simply handwave away things like 'fundamental physics' by saying 'oh, Heisenberg Compensator.' The writers make poo poo up for the requirements of the episode they're writing, then forget about it.
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"Sir, I'm experiencing integrity loss on the ka." "Can you increase the resolution on the ba to compensate?" "I can try, but I'll need more offerings." "Perhaps a shabti macro would suffice." "Yes... Yes, it could trick the system into thinking the requisite offerings were being made. It might work."
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The Machine Spirits are often wack. Wiggidy wack, not just the normal kind.
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Brawnfire posted:"Sir, I'm experiencing integrity loss on the ka." Don't forget to turn on the inertial heart density modulator. Set to 'lighter than a feather.'
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Oh, I thought it did that autoMaatically
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TheCenturion posted:And it's directly contravened by other Star Trek shows, including other episodes of TNG, that point out that you can store people in a transporter buffer and they experience nothing. Scotty, in Relics, spends 70 years in a transporter loop and comes out having not experienced that time consciously. Can you imagine if he had? 70 years in a formless black void? He'd be stark raving mad. "It's made-up sci-fi bullshit" is your argument against "it's made-up sci-fi bullshit?" I don't see how the inconsistencies of how they write transporters proves that transporters definitely kill you; a thing they have never said.
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Why would you think existing as energy pattern in a transporter buffer would be all akin to existing consciously in a formless black void? And even if so why should they experience time in any way similar to how an organic body does over time? You don't even experience time the same depending on your size or relative speed outside of a sci-fi buffer. Even getting to have thoughts seems like it would require some type of simulation to mimic the biological processes thoughts are.
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LividLiquid posted:I'm a little lost. No, my point is that 'the writers' have no idea how it works, and it's never been written consistently. When they need you to have continuity of consciousness for plot reasons, you do. When they need you to not, you don't. It's a thing that was invented for television production purposes; too expensive to be filming landing sequences. People are applying modern understandings of physics to a concept that is more akin to magic. So yes, per our understanding of modern and quantum physics, if you *could* get a transporter to work on a whole human body (and there are excellent takes on why you couldn't, like Kaku's Physics of the Impossible or Krause's The Physics of Star Trek) you'd be creating a copy. But the concept of 'modern physics' has nothing to do with what the device is, in Star Trek. In Star Trek, it's capricious magic, and it's worked different ways in different episodes. Hell, that episode of TNG, 'Relics,' storing somebody in the pattern buffer was a jury-rigged hail-mary that shouldn't have worked, yet in Strange New Worlds, it's a standard technique that M'Benga had been using for years. Khanstant posted:Why would you think existing as energy pattern in a transporter buffer would be all akin to existing consciously in a formless black void? And even if so why should they experience time in any way similar to how an organic body does over time? You don't even experience time the same depending on your size or relative speed outside of a sci-fi buffer. Even getting to have thoughts seems like it would require some type of simulation to mimic the biological processes thoughts are. Part of being transported involves being put into the buffer during the process. If you have continuity of consciousness going through the buffer, why wouldn't you have consciousness in the buffer?
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You can't have continuity of consciousness while your biological body is dematerialized. Your consciousness is your body.
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Khanstant posted:You can't have continuity of consciousness while your biological body is dematerialized. Your consciousness is your body. Well I want to be a consciousness without a body!
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Too bad! Get back to your cells.
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Maybe M'Benga is how Scotty first encounters it, and it seems like it is pretty risky and unsafe unless you have someone there to keep monitoring the state of the transporter.
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M'Benga seems to get a demotion between SNW and TOS, maybe it's because of his reckless buffer fuckery.
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Hispanic! At The Disco posted:M'Benga seems to get a demotion between SNW and TOS, maybe it's because of his reckless buffer fuckery. Or space Child Protective Services take a dim view of his letting his child run off with an energy being ways.
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He also killed a Klingon that was a major propaganda get for the federation.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:He also killed a Klingon that was a major propaganda get for the federation. It'll probably end up being related to this.
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swickles posted:The Expanse handled it really well, and some of those space battles looked amazing. Yea they had CQC happening following long range railgun/missile fights, the kind that math nerds get boners over are all "throw a rock at someone you can't see! Look at this formula!". Also where'd you get that rock? someone had to go out and find it, then you need to be able to figure out its trajectory and then spin it up fast enough to fling it at your opponent and hope they don't spot it before it smashes into your planet. Marcos plan only worked because he was able to get stealth tech from the martians to cover up the rocks and then murdered all the UN ships that were out there looking for asteriods CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:The Machine Spirits are often wack. Wiggidy wack, not just the normal kind. You need to anoint the sacred oil exactly how they like it. Otherwise you chafe. Though yea with sci fi and your magic tech you need to keep things consistent. If you have an FTL drive, you need to make sure it always works the same way, that it can't work by bending space/time in one instance, while another it actually moves you at speeds faster than light. Yea keep that straight. or better yet, don't explain it because then you can do whatever you want with it.
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TheCenturion posted:Stuff.
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https://tvline.com/news/the-orville-season-4-renewal-update-adrianne-palicki-hints-cancellation-1235090555/ Well that doesn't sound great, but also kind of odd.. She says: quote:“I think there’s talk that it could possibly be something that certain people want to do…,” she continued, choosing words carefully, “but it’s a really difficult show to shoot, man.” But to my memory the first two seasons had a totally normal network turnaround time, then the Hulu shakeup delayed everything and then COVID caused even more havoc?
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holefoods posted:https://tvline.com/news/the-orville-season-4-renewal-update-adrianne-palicki-hints-cancellation-1235090555/ Yea series 1/2 had a year between them (1 ended in march 18 and 2 started in jan 19) It's only 3 that had a massive gap
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Even so, they're right; they can't be declining other work on the hope that maybe THIS year they'll be back to shooting.
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https://www.thewrap.com/seth-macfarlane-the-orville-canceled-season/
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Well he already brought it back once after a 4 year hiatus, and he also brought Family Guy back after a four year hiatus. I guess it's kind've his thing. 
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