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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I believe Morgan mentioned that, despite being in the branch family, it's traditional for the elder sister to have the greater spiritual power.

Could've been an attempt to marry into power that wound up backfiring.

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Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
Morgan Fey is my favorite name pun in the entire series. It's just subtle enough.

Lechtansi
Mar 23, 2004

Item Get

Patter Song posted:

Morgan Fey is my favorite name pun in the entire series. It's just subtle enough.

I'm not that good with the name puns, so even the obvious ones fly over my head (except for SOJ). Whats the pun with Morgan Fey?

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Lechtansi posted:

I'm not that good with the name puns, so even the obvious ones fly over my head (except for SOJ). Whats the pun with Morgan Fey?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_le_Fay is my assumption?

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Yeah, Morgana/Morgaine/Morgan le Fay, King Arthur's archnemesis/half-sister.

ArcadePark
Feb 4, 2011

Damn it, It's all your fault!

Added Space posted:

Probably a cousin? Marrying within your own family is pretty common in traditional Japanese families, although not quite to the degree of European nobility.

No, it is actually not. You are legally allowed to marry your cousin, but in-family marriage were and is considered questionable, as former prime minister Kan Naoto can attest. He was actually met with negative response within his family when he was marrying his cousin, due to the fact that he was a heir to a political family.

If anything, marrying your daughter off to a promising young man to be your heir is more common. The Fey clan seems to be a more matriarchal clan, so it would actually make more sense if a powerful spirit medium outside the clan would marry a male Fey and take over the family business. That is, if either Maya or Pearls had a brother.

Of course, none of that matters, because this is actually Japanifornia.

Shiki Dan
Oct 27, 2010

If ya can move ya toes ya back's fine

Patter Song posted:

Yeah, Morgana/Morgaine/Morgan le Fay, King Arthur's archnemesis/half-sister.

That would mean it's an allusion, not a pun.

Added Space
Jul 13, 2012

Free Markets
Free People

Curse you Hayard-Gunnes!

Shiki Dan posted:

That would mean it's an allusion, not a pun.

"Fey" means having unusual or supernatural powers. Related to but distinct from Fay, meaning of the fairies.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Because no one wants to make new video games anymore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnYpTj_aUoA

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Christ, Capcom. Let these GBA games have a goddamn rest.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Can they just release the new trilogy on switch so I can play it already

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

AceOfFlames posted:

Because no one wants to make new video games anymore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnYpTj_aUoA

"Coming Early 2019"

You already made these games. You already made this re-release on the DS!

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

"Coming Early 2019"

You already made these games. You already made this re-release on the DS!
I'm hoping it's like someone in the Games AA thread said, and they're gearing up to make all the games multi-platform going forward.

...but in reality it's probably just a cash grab. :v:

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

I mean, it's new to anyone that doesn't have a Nintendo system, so it has some value there. Enough to warrant having made it? Probably not, but there is an audience it's targeting

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
I might actually buy it, since I've never owned a Phoenix Wright game and I don't have any other means to play it. But only since those LPs made me kinda interested.

So there. It's a viable business move. I'm the enabler.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
When something smells, it's probably the buttz marketing.

If I had a switch I'd be interested. But I don't.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

I have the iPad version and thus I see no reason why I should get this.

What gets to me is the art. They could have made a token effort to add more frames of animation and not make it look like a Newgrounds game but nooooo.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
I have nothing against rereleases. I just hope that they'll price it reasonably. Capcom tends to not gouge people to buy their old stuff too much.

Anything over $20 or $25 would be insane for this, though.

I have no interest in this, but there's plenty of people who never played Ace Attorney.

The idea of also porting over the later games is nice, although they'll probably come individually. If that's the case, I wish they'd bundled 4 with the first 3. No one's buying Ace Attorney 4 just for itself, but it's an important part of the story.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



I really appreciate the opportunity to finally play PW. Apparently people have a very hard time imagining someone who doesn't have a console or iphone?

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
For context this was built up as a huge, can't-miss announcement...and then it turn out it was just another port of 1-3.

Not a bad thing, but a letdown from what people were expecting.

whitehelm
Apr 20, 2008

FoolyCharged posted:

I mean, it's new to anyone that doesn't have a Nintendo system, so it has some value there. Enough to warrant having made it? Probably not, but there is an audience it's targeting

The entire main series is available for iOS.

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!
Android doesn't have the trilogy, except in Japan.

It does have Apollo, Dual Destinies, and Spirit of Justice. The weird thing is that it also has Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

Xander77 posted:

I really appreciate the opportunity to finally play PW. Apparently people have a very hard time imagining someone who doesn't have a console or iphone?

:same:

I'm not wasting time on consoles when 95% of all games I want to play are fine with a PC. But there are some console only games that I really want to play, so I very much appreciate PC re-releases. I know PW games only from SA LPs, so I'm very happy that I get to play them, too.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

whitehelm posted:

The entire main series is available for iOS.

Also on Android.
So this is probably practice for the AA team on current-gen crossplatform dev.

darealkooky
Sep 15, 2011

You sayin' I like dubs?!?

Xander77 posted:

I really appreciate the opportunity to finally play PW. Apparently people have a very hard time imagining someone who doesn't have a console or iphone?

please don't give capcom money for a series of roms with an emulator thats probably not even as good as the one people make for free because they have nothing better to do

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
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2014-2018

Case 2: Reunion, and Turnabout
Investigation, Day 2 (Part 4)

We've got some questions for Ini now.





: Yeah. (I think I have enough to finally unlock her secret...)
: ...Like, what's with that scary look on your face...?

Let's get into her Psyche-Lock, then.



BGM: Psyche-Locks

We'll skip ahead - we know we're telling Ini about a specific accident - her own.





: I want to ask you about your own car accident.
: M... Me!?
: Yes.
: So, wow, like, how strange. I have, like, no idea what you're talking about.







: It says, "Ms. Ini Miney Holds Interview About Crash".
: ...Ah!
: You suffered a very bad injury and had to be admitted to a hospital, correct?
: L-Like, wait!
: What now?
: ...
: Th-That's not me!
: Huh!?
: I mean, like, this person has, like, the same name, but she's totally not me.
: My name, "Ini Miney" is, like, pretty common.
: What in the world are you babbling about!? Your sister's name, "Mimi Miney" is in here too!
: Like, totally, wow... What a scary coincidence! I'm totally getting, like, goosebumps.
: (Y-You think I'm going to let you get away with that!?)
: So, like, now what?







: ...Like, what's that picture supposed to mean?
: I got this from the hospital where you were hospitalized at.
: H-Huh? So?
: There was a certain patient there. He's quite a fan... As a memento of your stay, he stole this. I have to say, this photo looks like you.





: Now are you ready to tell me about the accident...?
: Like, wait a sec.
: OK, so, like, I was in an accident. Sure.
: But that's, like, totally not related to this murder!
: Actually, it is.



: It says that "one of the women died", correct?
: ...A-And?
: That woman who died -- who do you suppose they mean?
: ...





: I believe it was your sister, Mimi Miney.
: Mimi...
: You were riding in your sister's car while she drove. The two of you were together when your accident occurred, making it one and the same!





So now we can ask about that accident.



: Yeah... I was... riding...



BGM: Reminiscing - Scars Carved by Fire

: We were... like, on our way home...





: At the time, I grabbed for my purse, and escaped from the passenger-side door.
: ...And your sister...?
: I, like, couldn't do anything... The car was full of smoke... I couldn't see anything...
: Oh, I'm sorry...





: Like, he was totally out to get my sister... He totally did that to, like, pay my sister back...
: (Hmm, I wonder... This does give Ini a good reason to want to murder Dr. Grey!)
: Ha ha ha. It seems simple, doesn't it?
: What do you mean!?
: But, it would be very hard to catch me.

BGM: Suspense

: Actually, I'd say impossible.
: What!?
: I think you get the picture.
: I'm going to serve you a slice of humble pie! I hope you enjoy it.
: Ha ha ha...

That's about all we can get out of Ini, unfortunately. As we make our way out, though...





: ...? Looks like something's up...
: S-Stop... Stop! Leave my mother alone!
: O-Ow!
: H-Hey, hold on, OK, pal!? I'm not gonna hurt...
: Pearl, dear. It is perfectly alright. I will be out for a short while with this young man.
: Mother! Please, let me go too!
: No, you must stay here and protect the manor.
: But...
: Aww, don't make that face.
: Hey, I'll tell you what!
: I'll show you something cool. Here, look! It's a real pistol...
: Detective! Do not upset me further!
: Ah... Sorry...

Gumshoe and Morgan leave.

: (...Poor Gumshoe... Being dragged off by the ear like that by Morgan... Owww...)
: Mother...



: Mother... This has never happened before...
: Pearls...
: Mr. Nick!
: ...I have a really bad feeling that I can't shake. I think something really bad is going to happen... I'm scared... ...I'm really scared, Mr. Nick...
: (Say something, Wright! Anything...! *sigh* I'm terrible at this.)



: Mr. Nick, what about... What about Mystic Maya?
: She'll be alright. I think I've gathered enough evidence...
: Mystic Maya... She must feel all alone.
: Please, Mr. Nick! Go visit her!
: Yeah, but... I can't just leave you here all alone, either.
: I-I'll be fine!
: Please! Mystic Maya needs you by her side!
: (Her stare is really piercing... *shiver*)

Well, no arguing with that.







BGM: Elegy of the Security Cameras

: Mia!



: I think I have enough evidence and information now... I think...
: Everything will be on your shoulders tomorrow.
: Whether Maya is found guilty or innocent... It's a heavy weight to bear.



: (If memory serves... Mia had a few Psyche-Locks of her own...)

BGM: Investigation - Core 2001



: Sure. I welcome you to try.



: Mia...
: Yes?
: Mia... You know something, don't you? About the real murderer, I mean.
: ...!



: Why... do you think so?
: (It's really trying at times to be able to see other people's secrets...)
: It looks like it's time for you to explain your reasoning.
: Yeah... (A battle of wits against Mia! ...*gulp*)

But first, we have a few more things to ask about.



: There's still a whole slew of questions for you to answer before the trial tomorrow.
: You mean like how did the real murderer get into the room and kill Dr. Grey...?
: Yes.
: Also, when did the murderer enter the Channeling Chamber...? You guys were all standing around in front of the room after the channeling started.
: Which means that the murderer must have gone into that room before the channeling...
: That's what I think, in any case.
: But Maya's already said there wasn't anyone else in there.
: ...That's true... But if we can't figure out the murderer's movements, we're stuck like a beached whale.
: (Hmm...)



: I thought I'd never see this day. Are you actually asking me about spirit channeling?
: This case is all about spirit channeling. And I feel like I don't understand a thing about it...
: Well, that's only natural... After all, spirit channeling isn't exactly an everyday thing, is it?
: Yeah, I guess you're right.
: The power to change your physical appearance into the person you're calling was something our ancestor, Mystic Ami Fey acquired.
: I've heard that name before...
: The Fey family was originally a family known for its service to the gods. When Mystic Ami was born, she was given a certain fate through her name. Because, you see, she was named after one of the Buddhas of Buddhism, "Amitábha".
: To this day, her soul is still sealed in the Kurain Sacred Urn. It usually sits in the Winding Way, and has her name written on it.
: Um, yeah...
: Aww, come on, Phoenix. It's just a fairy-tale.
: (Are you saying that me being able to see you is just a fairy-tale too...?)

And now, let's get back to those Psyche-Locks







BGM: Psyche-Locks

: You think I'm hiding information about someone from you...
: Isn't that right?
: Yes.







: There is no one else you would protect like this, Mia...



: Well done, but...
: While the murder was being committed, my aunt was outside with everyone else. Which means she already has an alibi.
: That's true...







: ...
: At the beginning of the channeling, Maya had possession of this key. And yet, somehow, it magically ended up in the incinerator in the center garden.
: ...You're right.
: There is only one person who could have done that while I was busy calling the police. The person taking care of Maya -- Morgan.
: ...
: What's that look mean?
: Your argument is too flimsy.
: Huh?
: When did the key find its way into the incinerator? It could have happened long after the murder happened.
: Long after...?
: Someone could have found the key somewhere and dumped it into the incinerator.
: But that's...
: That prosecutor would use something this small to shred your case.







: ...
: I also found this in the garden incinerator. It's the same material as Maya's costume... Except for the splotch of blood.
: But this piece may not even be from Maya's costume.
: But this is what Maya told me.





: Which means that this piece of cloth was part of Maya's costume.
: But when Maya was arrested, she was wearing her costume.
: That just means someone changed her clothes.
: Changed her clothes? But why...?
: I don't know why. But...there is only one person who could've done that.





: You did very well, Phoenix.
: Thank you.
: As long as you have those two pieces of evidence, you can cast suspicion on my aunt.
: However.
: H-However?
: Like I said in the beginning, my aunt has an alibi.
: Yeah... She was with us the whole time...
: Here's my final question. You don't have to present solid proof of this for me. But I want to know. If my aunt is the culprit, then how did she commit the murder?
: How she did it, huh...?
: I want to hear your thoughts.







: Which means that my aunt and Ini Miney...
: ...Were in cahoots!





BGM: Investigation - Core 2001



: ...Something's been bothering me all this time. This crime is something no normal person could carry out. The person would have to know a lot about Fey Manor and the village itself to do this.
: ...But Morgan already has an alibi...
: Yes, which is why I can't figure out how it was done. We can assume Ini Miney is involved somehow...
: But we have one big problem on our hands.
: ...A problem? With what?
: We don't have a motive. Why would Morgan want to kill Dr. Grey? Why would she have to? Also, we don't really know for sure that she was cooperating with Ini.
: ...
: (Mia doesn't have a clue either, huh?)
: Hmm... Then, there is only one possibility...
: Huh!?
: Think about it, Phoenix. Why would my aunt do something like this?
: And why would she do it in such an underhanded fashion?
: Um... because...?
: Mother... She is the one who holds the key to this.
: Mother? Whose? Mine?
: Don't be silly. Mine, of course! Misty Fey.
: (Mia and Maya's mother? Why would she bring her up now...?)
: Now then... Looks like we've gathered everything we could.
: All we have to do is win tomorrow! Everything will become apparent then.
: R-Right, Chief! We won't lose!

Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Sep 23, 2018

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





Slight misspelling: coukd

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





This is a great series and I hope they get to port all of the games to mobile.

I hope the sherlock holmes tie-in game gets an official port too...

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Morgan being secretly evil is a pretty good twist, but man did this scene



really lay the hint on thick.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Morgan being secretly evil is a pretty good twist, but man did this scene



really lay the hint on thick.

Also, no one with THAT haircut could possibly not be evil.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Morgan being secretly evil is a pretty good twist, but man did this scene



really lay the hint on thick.

Hey now. She's innocent until proven guilty. Maya on the other hand...

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

cant cook creole bream posted:

Hey now. She's innocent until proven guilty. Maya on the other hand...

Obligatory Awkward Zombie comic. (Contains slight spoilers in that it shows a character that will appear in a future game in the series, but nothing else.)

dotchan
Feb 28, 2008

I wanna get a Super Saiyan Mohawk when I grow up! :swoon:

YggiDee posted:

Honestly the biggest mystery of the whole case isn't whodunit or howdunit or whydunit, it's 'Who the gently caress would have a child with Manfred Von Karma. Where is she.'

What, you can't imagine that someone would want in on that von Karma wealth and prestige?

Added Space
Jul 13, 2012

Free Markets
Free People

Curse you Hayard-Gunnes!

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Morgan being secretly evil is a pretty good twist, but man did this scene



really lay the hint on thick.

That, and "Ambitious Branch Family Aunt" is a pretty stock Japanese drama villain.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Mikl posted:

Obligatory Awkward Zombie comic. (Contains slight spoilers in that it shows a character that will appear in a future game in the series, but nothing else.)

This case isn't really that bad on the "the accused couldn't possibly have done it" point. Knowing what the Judge currently knows, it's totally possible that Maya is the murderer. There are definitely cases where you do hit the whole "the defendant cannot possibly be guilty but we're going along anyway," though. In fact, we already saw one last game in case 1-3 where, after a certain point, it's blatantly obvious that it was impossible that Will Powers was the murderer, but he could still get convicted if you messed up.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
There's an extraordinarily dumb one in the Layton crossover, too.

ArcadePark
Feb 4, 2011

Damn it, It's all your fault!
I wonder how I would feel if I was one "Le" away from being named after a famous witch.

Would I be evil? Just for the heck of it?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

ArcadePark posted:

I wonder how I would feel if I was one "Le" away from being named after a famous witch.

Would I be evil? Just for the heck of it?

Would be a bit disappointing if you weren't.

ArcadePark
Feb 4, 2011

Damn it, It's all your fault!

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

There's an extraordinarily dumb one in the Layton crossover, too.

Now to be fair, those one were about literal witch trials, so "Guilty until you have another scapegoat" was not only reasonable, but expected.

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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

ArcadePark posted:

Now to be fair, those one were about literal witch trials, so "Guilty until you have another scapegoat" was not only reasonable, but expected.

If/When we get there, you'll see what I mean. Though, if you have PM enabled, I could mention it to you now.

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