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If you bollard off all city centers that probably just means you'll have vans plowing into groups of people gathered outside city centers.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean, only if the groups of people for some reason also can't get past the bollards. The idea is that you keep vehicles from crossing into pedestrian spaces, the pedestrians don't just go and hang around the cars for fun. Not all gatherings of people are in running distance of a city center. You'd need to fortify pretty much the entire urban, large amounts of suburban, and some rural area road systems. Schools, places of worship, public venues of all sorts, etc. in particular. It suffers from the same problem as any form of defense - the attacker has the opportunity to observe the protective measures in place and choose when and where to attack. If you did a great job and there aren't any obvious weaknesses then they also have the opportunity to devise a different method of attack, so all of the fortified roads are now security theatre in the face of the new bombing/arson/mass stabbing/drone bombing/whatever wave. Also, if driving in DC and NYC is any indication, plenty of pedestrians go hang out with the cars for fun (well, convenience). Warbadger fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Aug 20, 2017 18:17
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ColoradoCleric posted:I'm guessing if you're a serious terrorist looking to attack a country you hate it's much easier and effective to find idiots to run cars into people than risk yourself and your goal by orchestrating some major attack and possibly getting caught/killed. It requires a trivially easy amount of planning and preparation (locate a busy area or gathering of people) and an easily attainable common tool (an automobile). No illegal or unusual activity is necessary until the commission of the act itself. There is simply no reason to do anything more complicated. You also have the copycat effect at this point - everybody knows you can kill a bunch of people and grab all the headlines by running a car through a crowd.
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Aug 21, 2017 03:53
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Kemper Boyd posted:Because terrorism needs spectacle to be ultimately successful. People are getting used to "ISIS inspired dude drove a van over people" on the news really fast, which is interesting. The extensive news reporting on the attacks ensures there is spectacle.
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Aug 23, 2017 13:02
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A Buttery Pastry posted:"Accidentally" This is a notable difference. Stuff like a net around a farmers market is great for preventing the incredibly infrequent accident where old person and a crowd might line up just right. It's less good about preventing some Nazi fetishist from noting that people are gathered in a line on the grass outside the net today a few minutes before driving a car into them.
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