a kind-of-scandal is surrounding leathery racist (& likely kingmaker in the next government) winston peters. it's emerged that his old-age pension was overpaid for like 7 years. https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@politics/2017/08/28/44815/peters-overpaid-and-under-pressure now the scandal has pivoted to asking where the leak came from. a couple of government ministers were informed (probs inappropriately) by their departments under the 'no surprises' policy, so it was almost certainly them. the other option is that an official leaked it, but that seems much less likely. winston is notorious for never letting anything go so this should be kind of entertaining. my guess is that it'll boost his awful party even higher!
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 07:55 |
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# ? May 4, 2024 02:41 |
nice guyquote:Rhetoric:
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 10:29 |
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Forward his resume to Trump and I bet he would get hired
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# ? Aug 29, 2017 11:57 |
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Can't believe the sherrif of the Shire is so corrupt
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# ? Aug 30, 2017 21:08 |
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exmarx posted:the threshold is the only really bad thing. i'd prefer stv for the electorate vote, but it would realistically be too complicated
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# ? Aug 30, 2017 22:54 |
the first debate is happening in 2 hours and 10 minutes, and can be streamed here https://www.facebook.com/TVOneNZ/ im just going to watch the highlights i think, on account of im going out frankenfreak posted:Also get with the program and eliminate overhang seats somehow, even if it's just by throwing in additional balance seats like Germany does now. getting rid of the threshold would solve the overhang thing i think
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 05:52 |
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I am taking five minutes out of my workday for the next month to concentrate extremely hard on hating Winston Peters to death
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 22:32 |
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this thread is insanely good and im gonna stolicky it to the top of cspam until i remember to un-sticky it
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# ? Sep 3, 2017 03:49 |
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oh awesome i can give it a 30 day sticky, or stolicky as i apparently think theyre known
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# ? Sep 3, 2017 03:50 |
squizzle, thank you. the first debate was really boring. something much more interesting happened an hour beforehand: that's the labour party overtaking national – this is their highest poll result since march 2007. at this level of support, they could theoretically form a government with the support of the greens and māori party. additionally, ardern has overtaken english to become the preferred prime minister! obviously this is just one poll – another is due out tonight, in around 2 hours – but polls do drive a narrative. --- campaign-wise, there hasn't been much exciting stuff happening. ardern is able to look like a human being when meeting people; something her opponent and predecessors haven't managed. --- t.o.p party leader gareth morgan, undeterred by his party being stuck at 1-2%, continues to be a tedious little nerd. this natch led to him being called a sexist, which in turn led to this i had a dig thru wayback, it turns out he's always been this way: 😬 --- today the national party released another insanely bad policy, they really seem to be theresa maying things up lol quote:Deputy Prime Minister Paula Bennett has promised an $82 million methamphetamine and gang crackdown if National is re-elected. yikes. --- finally, there's another debate tomorrow. it's probably going to be better than the first one.
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# ? Sep 3, 2017 05:30 |
i've been mapping out anglophone governments for a couple of years, since i noticed the domination of tory parties everywhere. this insanely scientific analysis shows that nz is due for a change of government, following canada it's also interesting to see the relative stability of party leadership - australian prime ministers tend to get knifed right before an election, for example.
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# ? Sep 3, 2017 05:41 |
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Australia confirmed as the furthest back in time
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# ? Sep 3, 2017 05:57 |
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Can somebody explain how there are like 25,000 people in New Zealand and every one of them post 100x a day on forums so it seems like there's hundreds of millions
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# ? Sep 3, 2017 18:40 |
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Thug Lessons posted:Can somebody explain how there are like 25,000 people in New Zealand and every one of them post 100x a day on forums so it seems like there's hundreds of millions why do so many power rangers and wizards come from new zealand???? the answer to our questions is the same
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# ? Sep 3, 2017 18:45 |
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exmarx posted:t.o.p party leader gareth morgan, undeterred by his party being stuck at 1-2%, continues to be a tedious little nerd. Did this guy really steal a slogan from the UK Lib Dems?
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# ? Sep 3, 2017 20:56 |
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how big is new zealand's budget? just to get a feel for if $42 million for jailing drug addicts is a lot or not
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# ? Sep 3, 2017 21:39 |
Badger of Basra posted:how big is new zealand's budget? just to get a feel for if $42 million for jailing drug addicts is a lot or not $80.5 bn they're really just flailing with this law and order stuff. english has a genuine interest in 'social investment', they've been relatively sensible to date for a tory government
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 00:21 |
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Thug Lessons posted:Can somebody explain how there are like 25,000 people in New Zealand and every one of them post 100x a day on forums so it seems like there's hundreds of millions New Zealanders are pretty bored.
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 03:55 |
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Is there any significant movement to move yalls Labour to the left or has NZ avoided any sort of Corbynism.
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 05:48 |
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slinkimalinki posted:New Zealanders are pretty bored. the only website allowed is somethingawful thanks to a deal between lowtax and the NZ government
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 06:46 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MokNvbiRqCM
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 07:15 |
here's the debate livestream, starting now https://youtu.be/20KBI7vV_-U
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 09:31 |
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Why does Ardern always look like she's wearing a boxer's mouthguard, what did they tell her before the debate
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 09:37 |
safely sodomized posted:Is there any significant movement to move yalls Labour to the left or has NZ avoided any sort of Corbynism. arden is at least perceived like that, but she's more like an obama or trudeau. still very much third way, but has carved herself out as an actual different option. having a proportional system acts as a kind of pressure valve for this stuff - that's why the greens were polling as high as 15% a month ago
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 09:39 |
Crane Fist posted:Why does Ardern always look like she's wearing a boxer's mouthguard, what did they tell her before the debate have you seen how big her teeth are
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 09:39 |
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Also nzelection
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 10:15 |
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safely sodomized posted:Is there any significant movement to move yalls Labour to the left or has NZ avoided any sort of Corbynism. The new Labour leader just answered the question of 'which do you think is worse, tax evasion, or benefit fraud?' with 'both' so... For reference, benefit fraud costs ~$30 million P/A, much of which is recovered (the ministry of social development spent $50 million investigating benefit frauds between 2013 and 2016); frauds of as little as $1000 have been pursued relentlessly, and 65% of the worst-offending benefit fraudsters go to prison, the worst of the tax evaders get home detention. In contrast, Inland Revenue estimates the bare minimum cost of tax avoidance and evasion to be $1.2 billion, potentially it's a lot more than that. These things are apparently of similar severity, if you live in Labour's universe.
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El Pollo Blanco posted:The new Labour leader just answered the question of 'which do you think is worse, tax evasion, or benefit fraud?' with 'both' so... well the rich are job creators obviously
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 13:18 |
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does it feel good to vote in a natl election w/o the constant awareness that the winner will be capable of ending all human life on earth
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:26 |
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:well the rich are job creators obviously just think of all the jobs they created for offshore accountants
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 16:27 |
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etalian posted:just think of all the jobs they created for offshore accountants idky anybodyd wanna do accounting offshore it seems like itd be a pain in the rear end with the boat rockin back and forth and the saltwater gettin on everything
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 20:06 |
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slinkimalinki posted:Also nzelection now that's what I call politics
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# ? Sep 4, 2017 21:25 |
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this thread is fake news new zealand doesn't exist http://worldmapswithout.nz/
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# ? Sep 5, 2017 15:14 |
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Gringostar posted:this thread is fake news this
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# ? Sep 5, 2017 15:20 |
labour seems to be beating national in the freakin meme war https://twitter.com/LabourMemes/status/903874864263577600 https://twitter.com/nzyoungnats/status/903152718881079296
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:02 |
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red salute
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 09:48 |
https://twitter.com/jacktame/status/905506819329597440 dad
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 21:00 |
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would Labour be willing to go into a coalition with nz first again or are they too fascisty now
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 21:38 |
absolutely e: here's one of their candidates, who quit being a labour mp a couple of years ago exmarx has issued a correction as of 23:37 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Small country, I know but... I work with that guy.
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