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LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

life is killing me posted:

Mena Suvari was between 19-21 in American Beauty. It was just the implication in the movie that it was wrong because her character was underage, but she as an actress was not underage.

Thora Birch was though.

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Nairbo
Jan 2, 2005
I just watched both episodes last night, drat that's really good so far. 2 and a half hours of David Simon paced TV actually felt really quick. While I'm not generally a fan of Franco, and probably not much of one here, but that scene with him and his wife [the girl dating Paul Dano] on the bench was really well done from both of them.

I hope this quality keeps up, this could easily be one of best shows of the year.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I really like this show. Darlene in the bar was the highlight for me and Chris' character is so upbeat, aside from the racist stare down he gets for actually being interested in solving a crime.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Actually scratch that, the Cream of Potato soup turkey baster cum shot was :barf:

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
I noticed a couple more connections to the Wire in episode 2...

-Slim Charles working at the dinner.
-When the two Francos meet Chris Bauer (Sobotka) there are two lines similar to ones said in the wire. They talk about owning lawn furniture as being a sign of being domestic, Prez and Bunk both do this.
-Also one of the Francos says "Did you just use 'venal' in a sentence?" Herc says the same thing about 'Habitat' in one of the Hamsterdam episodes.
-In the final scene, Method Man (Cheese) compares locking up streetwalkers to "sweeping leaves on a windy day." The deacon says the same thing to Bunny about drugs.

Maybe I should post this is the Wire thread, but it seems fair to talk about Simon repeating things from earlier work.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I think you should keep posting it in here, I find it interesting :)

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Yeah plus your av is pretty good and this place could use the flare it adds to it

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Cici and Lori snorting coke and slowly getting higher was good, as was Cici's bullshit sell that he probably gives every new girl.

You ever been to Paris?

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
The actor who plays CC is so drat good. Apparently I've seen him in stuff before but I never really noticed him. I think he and Darlene are the standouts, which is impressive in a cast like this.

I'm also really happy that Lawrence Gilliard Jr and Chris Coy are working with David Simon again. They're both great and they left me wanting more in The Wire and Treme, respectively.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Show is really good but man it's even more depressing than the wire.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I feel like they're building up to Candy getting roughed up by a John

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Really dug the second episode, Cici's line of bullshit is really fascinating in the way he throws out all this lovely talk and then just off-handed mentions how incredibly lovely life would be without him, while also whining about how lonely it is to be a pimp. What really got to me was when he shanks the wannabe rapist and then calmly tells Lori,"You gotta get back on the bike" and sends her out to get another john.

Candy's interest/fascination in filmmaking was both touching and depressing, though I have to admit to getting a good laugh out of the turkey baster scene.

Do I understand the scam Vincent and Bobby are pulling correctly? The mob fronts them the cash to pay the workers on Fridays instead of Bobby giving them their paychecks. Then they take the paychecks (which without taxes is a fair bit more than the cash already given out) to the mob who cash them in on Monday?

Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Sep 19, 2017

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Jerusalem posted:

Do I understand the scam Vincent and Bobby are pulling correctly? The mob fronts them the cash to pay the workers on Fridays instead of Bobby giving them their paychecks. Then they take the paychecks (which without taxes is a fair bit more than the cash already given out) to the mob who cash them in on Monday?

I think that's right, yeah. They frame it saving them the trip to cash it since the banks close for the weekend, for a small fee of course.

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
No way is Vincent not getting screwed by Rudy.

Also, anyone think that the QUO on the liquor sign was lit while most of it was dim to say "this is how things are now" (the status quo) or am I reading too much into it?

Cloks fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Sep 19, 2017

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Pretty sure Vincent is going to end up shooting porn in the back of the bar with Candy to cover the $1000/week rent demanded by the mafia

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy

DariusLikewise posted:

Pretty sure Vincent is going to end up shooting porn in the back of the bar with Candy to cover the $1000/week rent demanded by the mafia

Yeah there's no loving way his mustache is getting out of this without starring in at least one porno

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Professor Shark posted:

Cici and Lori snorting coke and slowly getting higher was good, as was Cici's bullshit sell that he probably gives every new girl.

You ever been to Paris?

Yeah all of the copy on the show talks about CC having "complicated inner feelings" but it seemed like he was just running more game on a new ho.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Yeah he almost had me wanting to go to Paris with him. This episode really pulled me in and I'm fired up for the next one. gently caress yeah! If it's even half as good as the wire we're in for some good rear end television.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
Best pimp by far is Method Man.

isme
Oct 13, 2004
ZombiePugs

Shima Honnou posted:

Best pimp by far is Method Man.

...until there is a scene which he brutally beats or kills his ho....

I wouldn't be surprised that by the end of the season, Larry Brown might be the "kindest" pimp.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

Escobarbarian posted:

I recommend "There ain't no individual on earth as alone as a pimp." for a thread title change this week, if it fits

Not "You're supposed to love Viking cum"?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
......I'd like to change my answer

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Shima Honnou posted:

Best pimp by far is Method Man.



EVERYbody rides tonight!

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.
The Deuce was already renewed.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
sick

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Good

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
Did anyone else notice the marquee for The Last Tango in Paris?

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Shima Honnou posted:

I think that's right, yeah. They frame it saving them the trip to cash it since the banks close for the weekend, for a small fee of course.

It's also a union due I thought I heard.

Also I think the 5% is cheaper the. A lot of places change for cheque cashing

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I feel like if you're going to play two different characters in a TV show then only one of them should have a moustache.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Comrade Fakename posted:

I feel like if you're going to play two different characters in a TV show then only one of them should have a moustache.

I do like that they gave Vince a head wound in the first episode to kinda help us out. Once Frankie gets a little more developed though I think James Franco does a really solid job of subtly differentiating the two.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Their hair is slightly different, enough that I was able to figure them out based on it. Also, Frankie looks cockier.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Uh, I don't think that guy was merely a rapist.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Milo and POTUS posted:

Uh, I don't think that guy was merely a rapist.

Yeah no that was a kidnap and murder deal at the end of ep. 2 for sure.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Professor Shark posted:

Their hair is slightly different, enough that I was able to figure them out based on it. Also, Frankie looks cockier.

Also Vincent's side burns go down to the jaw, Frankie's stop by the ear.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
The hair is definitely the easiest way for me. Frankie's is slicked completely back.

zerozerozero
Sep 7, 2017
Just wanna join in on saying that I too love The Deuce/The Wire/All-things-David-Simon. I have really high hopes for this series and so far it's delivering like crazy, I didn't realise how much I missed Simon's penchant for characterisation and dialogue.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Cloks posted:

Did anyone else notice the marquee for The Last Tango in Paris?

There have been a lot of great movie marquees. My personal favourite was the misspelling of "The Bird With The Crystal Plumage" which I believe was spelled as "Plummage".

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



I just watched both available eps and never noticed how much of a David Simon-sized hole there was in my heart until now. I'm super onboard for this, even if it's only a couple of seasons long at best.I also got the biggest grin on my face when I heard the first notes of the opening sequence because Don't Worry (If There's a Hell Below, We're All Gonna Go) is my favorite Curtis Mayfield song.

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Shima Honnou posted:

Yeah no that was a kidnap and murder deal at the end of ep. 2 for sure.

The police briefing mentioned that there was a strangulation murder in the area.

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DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

Cloks posted:

Did anyone else notice the marquee for The Last Tango in Paris?

I was listening to The Rialto Report podcast (the hosts served as advisors on the show) and they interviewed one of the writers who said that the thing she found interesting was that at the time there was the belief that there would be an intersection of the mainstream and pornography because of movies like LAST TANGO IN PARIS.

It's touched on again in the second episode where, because it's a 'documentary' one movie was given a pass based on artistic value. It's a neat signal of where things are going to go, even if the characters don't know it yet.

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