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Is the retcon in question the thing where Terezi is guiding John to do a bunch of cryptic things towards the end? See, I was honestly alright with all that, because Act 6 had sucked all that time due to the aforementioned "poo poo is drawn out too long and there are way too many characters" so maybe I just stopped paying attention and was sort of pleased that somebody else was as annoyed by the lack of conclusions as I was. I guess if you were invested in that last period of years then maybe it'd be really frustrating but I just wanted to see the story begun with four kids and some weird online trolls actually conclude and it seemed like Egbert was on the same page in that regard.
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I didn't like the ending because they spent what feels like 70% of the comic hyping up the big bad of the series and he's getting ready to a big attack and and and It cuts to everyone having a nice picnic with what amounts to "he died offscreen I guess" written in the sky. There's stuff like the retcon that happened but by that point I wasn't terribly invested in the characters anymore so I just wrote it off as "this is stupid and awful but whatever."
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Aug 31, 2017 16:39
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I watched Collide after giving up on homestuck early on act 6 after reading it for years, and had no idea what was going on. I chalked it up to missing a whole bunch of development and resolved to finish what I'd started later. At some point I picked up where I left off originally and finished the whole comic, and I still had no idea what was going on by the end except somehow everything ended up okay and everyone was happy. Act 6 is bad. Homestuck is bad.
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Cuntellectual posted:I don't really know Homestuck, but I'm curious, why did people hate the ending so much? Just because it's impossible to end a long running series like that in a way that pleases people? the ending is bad, but it's not the worst thing ever. As an ending of literally three years of comics that were uniformly terrible and longer than when the comic was good, which literally includes a segment where the comic literally goes back and says the good parts never happened (I was fine with the retcon but I see why people hate it), its insultingly poor. Also the comic explains what the ending is gonna be like literally a year beforehand, then plays that straight. It literally spoils itself. It's a nothing terrible ending that's awful and literally consists of a magic sperm flying around. But to be clear, not the worst thing ever. The previous like 3 to 4 years prior to the ending were almost uniformly the worst, and that's why homestuck sucks.
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Cuntellectual posted:What was so bad about it? Everybody died horribly. John Egbert literally retconed the whole comic to make it so everybody doesn't die horribly. This resulted in years of character development being flushed down the drain, previously big deal events not mattering at all, a whole mess of plotholes, and a super boring, generic brawl to end things when Homestuck never used to do generic, boring or brawls. The visual metaphor of a writer painting himself into a corner was solved by repainting the whole loving floor, and now it clashes with the walls and was super rushed and wasn't sealed properly so there's obviously missed spots and parts of it are peeling off with age. Then he sold the house.
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Remember the Itchy and Scratchy and Poochy episode of the Simpsons, where they introduce Poochy who is set up as this super cool and interesting guy, the fandom turns on him quickly, and then he's killed off off screen? Hussie almost literally did that with four new characters, who spent literal years in interminable romance subplots and were whiny cunts. He did this hand in hand with killing off and marginalizing the people the fans liked, who numbered around forty or so people, then going back on that and having them return as ghosts or phantoms or sentient memories. It felt like there were no stakes between the interminable lovely teen drama plotting of these four new characters everyone hated and there being no consequences or stakes to anything. Then he introduced two new characters, one of whom was a parody of an internet misogynist and thus so lovely he was intolerable to stomach even ironically, and the other who was a "parody" of Mary sue characters who everyone loved even though she was insanely boring and a complete cipher. The misogynist, by the way, is the spoiler guy, who tells everyone exactly how the story will end years prior to it ending. The end of the four new characters was them realizing they sucked, but at that point it was too little and too late. Then everyone died, then the main character went back through the story and made it so that never happened, but in the process literally rewrites huge sections of the comic that were good so that they either didn't happen or happened differently. At this point the comic has the aforementioned straight line narrative to the ending, which coincidentally was already spoiled. The comic closes nobody's arcs, there is no emotional closure or character development for most of the cast, there is the aforementioned introduction of new characters whose only reason to exist is to justify hussies writing failures, and it all builds to this finale that needed to be some incredible catharsis because there was no closure beforehand. The ending is watching a magic sperm fly around. The end. Done. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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I liked when Terezi was having fake courtroom drama with her stuffed dragons. That was fun.
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:Then he introduced two new characters, one of whom was a parody of an internet misogynist and thus so lovely he was intolerable to stomach even ironically, was that the weird I LOVE BEING STRONG troll? that guy was funny
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:was that the weird I LOVE BEING STRONG troll? that guy was funny no he owned this one was an angry green skellington child
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The best thing is that you wanted to root for the little gently caress because literally everything was stacked against him including the actual narrator. I don't think that was intentional but who knows
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Burkion posted:The best thing is that you wanted to root for the little gently caress because he pumped Gamzee full of lead for five consecutive pages
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Playable demo at PAX West. Spoilers, obviously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N7U3oBVAXk
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SupSuper posted:Was hoping an adventure game based on MSPA stuff would be a lot more subversive of the genre, rather than just a by-the-numbers point'n'click. That the first selling point is basically "a point and click game without the annoying stuff that was the original basis of mspa's humor" is really entertaining to me
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I doubt this game will have even one data structure themed inventory joke.
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Steam link added to OP. Game is six gigs.
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Clawtopsy posted:Steam link added to OP. Game is six gigs. That's bigger than I was expecting legitimately not just in a 'haw haw, I didn't expect it to be anything' sense
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Yeah, no jokes. I'm going to take this as a positive sign, at least speaking to the artistic and audio content of the game - But, then again, those were probably the parts least in question. ' Writing is definitely my biggest concern. Doubly so with Cherubs still playing such a factor, despite it being decently clear one of the main team members is still fairly one-eyed about them.
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It's actually happening. *stares dead eyed out the window*
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There's always the potential it could not suck I mean even at it's best it's gonna be a shallow imitation of Homestuck, but it could also not suck while doing so
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I don't think it's going to be a shallow imitation of homestuck. Like if I was going to remake homestuck, I'd want something with more heavy editing, shorter and with more of a point. By the conceit of having a player playing the game, with a beginning and end of at least the episode, things must be reigned in and there's incentive to avoid anticlimax. SIX GIGS has me kind of worried.
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I don't think six gigs is anything to worry about, those art assets can take up serious space. Some of those Daedalic games take up that amount of space because they have high-fidelity 2D images and high-quality sound.
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Pretty much every adventure game these days is in the order of GBs because of the voice acting.
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SupSuper posted:Pretty much every adventure game these days is in the order of GBs because of the voice acting. There is no voice acting in Hiveswap
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Plom Bar posted:There is no voice acting in Hiveswap Let's be thankful for small victories like this.
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Depending on how uncompressed the audio is, and I'm gonna guess none because everyone in this games dev team has given zero indication they give even the slightest poo poo about making things more convenient for consumers, that could easily be half or more of the games file size. On the other hand the music will probably be the only quality thing about Hiveswap, since Toby Fox is competent, sooooooooo
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:the music will probably be the only quality thing about Hiveswap, since Toby Fox is competent, sooooooooo life_source posted:Let's be thankful for small victories like this.
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Appears that Cyanide & Happiness is going the Homestuck route and using Kickstarter to fund an adventure game based on their webcomic Honestly don't have anything to say other than it's a weird quirk of timing and also why do webcomics think they can do video games?
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Appears that Cyanide & Happiness is going the Homestuck route and using Kickstarter to fund an adventure game based on their webcomic See you in 2024 for the Cyanide and Happiness Kickstarter Adventurer game!
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I remember waking up early to see the 4/13 update, it was Jack: Ascend. It was incredible, the music ruled, I was excited about what would happen next. That was 7 years ago and I was in high school. Homestuck is good, but it's long gone.
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I think the closest game you can get to Sburb would probably be Terraria or something. I almost made the choice of backing Hiveswap, but I'm sort of glad I did not do that, for many reasons Mostly that like most people who liked it, I burned the hell out on it during the 20 pauses amidst Act 6, which wasn't exactly stellar enough to be patient about those pauses.
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:Depending on how uncompressed the audio is, and I'm gonna guess none because everyone in this games dev team has given zero indication they give even the slightest poo poo about making things more convenient for consumers, that could easily be half or more of the games file size. Isn't another guy doing the main part of the music and Toby's only contributing now? James Roach. ETA: if you want to check it out, Grubbles LP just went out via email. uranium grass fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Paperseverywhere (Adrienne Garcia: "Home" and "Run to you" lyricstucs, plus some Homestuck work) and Guzusuru (Angela Sham, "Lullaby for Gods" and Act 7) post some sketches and preliminary animations. http://paperseverywhere.tumblr.com/post/165089840775/guzusuru-exclusive-behind-the-scenes-hiveswap Adrienne's sketches to remind herself of how Homestuck characters are drawn: http://paperseverywhere.tumblr.com/post/120499232325/this-is-by-no-means-a-comprehensive-guide-and-just
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Plom Bar posted:There is no voice acting in Hiveswap
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SupSuper posted:Then they're terrible at compression. there's a sbahj joke in here somewhere
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Oh hey, this thing finally got unmuted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsrCpRTSJ2E Just add this to the OP as the explanation for Homestuck Claws. Has a better ending than the real comic
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