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Not a Rams fan but if we find one can they argue against Lawrence Phillips as the team's biggest draft bust? Picked #6 in 1996, was cut midway through 1997 for playing while intoxicated, and came back in 1999 with the 49ers only to miss a block & end Steve Young's career.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Peria Jerry and Jamaal Anderson aren't even close to the worst Falcons draft picks. Anderson and Jerry absolutely are lol.
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Intruder posted:Hack is hilarious but he's still only a second Yeah, meanwhile Vernon Gholston was #6 overall. Should be the Jets top bust. Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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all-Rush mixtape posted:Alright, here are the current nominees, with the locks bolded. I nominated Elway for the Colts but there are many options. Technically they got a pro bowl starter for him though. Let's just go with Björn Werner though because he has a funny name. Honorable mention, Ron Solt, also from the Elway trade.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 15:44 |
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gently caress Aaron Curry gently caress Tim Ruskell also gently caress kelly jennings No but really aaron curry was such a garbo pick. Everyone said he was that "cant bust cant miss hot physicals" but the hawks were probably decent to above average at LB when he was drafted and then they traded away julien peterson after drafting him. Leeroy hill and his giant head was pretty good too. In addition, gently caress Jim Mora Jr in his whiny baby face. What a worthless coach. So awesome that he never got to live his dream of coaching the huskies Furthermore, Go dawgs
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 17:50 |
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Ted Gregory belongs on the Broncos list. Late first round pick in 1988, didn't make it past training camp. Broncos drafted him thinking he was 6'1", but in reality he was 5'9", and had an injured knee. He played in 3 games in his career, all for New Orleans, before blowing out his knee and retiring. He may not be the worst all time, but you never forget your first
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 18:19 |
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Forgot that Curry even took Peterson's number God drat the 2009 seahawks sucked mmmmm yes draft kelly jennings a little baby corner who sucks im tim ruskell and I love dog poo poo More of a pester type of tackler in run support, as his size limitations and lack of physicality in his play will usually result in him getting stymied and washed out of the play when coming up in run support … Takes good angles coming out of his pedal, but not when coming downhill to take on the ballcarrier or fill the rush alleys … Uses a shuffle-and-bail technique, which sometimes results in him coming out of his pedal too early … Has no strength behind his hits, making him a liability as an open field tackler (more of a cover type) … Plays with good balance, but needs to show less hesitation and better anticipation skills reading the quarterback in zone coverage … Can pick up receivers in the zone, but needs to show a more aggressive attitude taking on combo routes.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 18:28 |
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Steve Emtman has to be mentioned for the Colts, getting three years and just 18 games out of a #1 overall pick is pretty bad, though I have sympathy for guys who bust due to injury instead of incompetence. And dare......dare I say Herschel, given the potential he had entering the league?
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Kelly Jennings was bad but went 31st overall. Hardly a draft bust. I'd consider the Seahawks trading their 1st overall for Percy Harvin a bigger bust.
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seiferguy posted:Kelly Jennings was bad but went 31st overall. Hardly a draft bust. I'd consider the Seahawks trading their 1st overall for Percy Harvin a bigger bust. Not the biggest bust of all time or even for the Seahawks, but Kelly Jennings loving sucks and people should know how much he sucked. Same with aaron curry. and jim mora jr and tim ruskell Garbage rear end kelly jennings, breaking the tables like he broke my brain i really just seize these opportunities to rant about the late aughts seahawks because they cratered hard after XL and I was in the Navy stationed in Japan and I used to wake up early as gently caress (if I was in port) to watch kelly jennings suck a receivers dick while the receiver clowned all over his tiny little baby frame. It makes me so mad that I would wake up at like 3 am to watch the seahawks, especially the 2009 seahawks, and just shake my head and try to catch a small buzz but not get drunk cause I gotta be at work on the boat in 4 hours. Tim ruskell loved himself some baby CB's. I mean josh wilson was almost legally a little person at least harvin clowned on the broncos in the best game ever played
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mastershakeman posted:Tony Mandarich is arguably the biggest bust in terms of What Could Have Been . packers take a lovely lineman at #2 instead of having one of Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas or Deion Sanders (the next 3 picks) for their Favre led teams. Seconding Tony Mandarich for the Packers. Tells you something when their worst pick was almost 30 years ago.
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# ? Aug 31, 2017 19:58 |
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Gholston makes the most sense for the Jets. And that draft blunders vid is funny and all but a few of those guys were okay, most of the others were overdeafted JAGs. Its just the reactions from the crowd/commentators and who else was on the board that make the video. I would say the Browns first rounders of the Richardson - Manziel years alone trumps that whole video.
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I'm biased (and also not a Steelers fan) but holy poo poo Jarvis Jones is exhibit A of freak DE/OLB in college who couldn't do poo poo in the NFL. Six sacks in four years and nothing else worth noting, holy poo poo gently caress off.
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all-Rush mixtape posted:Vikings - n/a
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 11:04 |
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Every 1st round pick by the Niners starting from 1997 to 2004. Seriously it's trash all the way down except for Julian Peterson. Kwame loving Harris
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TheHoosier posted:Every 1st round pick by the Niners starting from 1997 to 2004. Seriously it's trash all the way down except for Julian Peterson. Andre Carter was decent, not really good but deserving of a roster spot. He's the only one other than Peterson though. e: after looking again I think I'd actually call him goodish? Although disappointing for the 7th overall pick. Dude got 80 sacks in the league, that's not nothing. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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seiferguy posted:Aaron Curry for the Seahawks is a fantastic choice, but I have to go way back to 1993 and nominate Rick Mirer. Drafted 2nd overall in 1993, as a Seahawk for 4 year he put up a 53% comp rating, 41/56 TD/INT, and never had a winning season. He's Seattle's Bort. Counter point as I made in my original post - Rick Mirer set rookie records his first season, and we also got a high draft pick for him from the Bears. We got nothing for Aaron Curry. Edit: Kelly Jennings, Jim Mora Junior, and Ruskell can all suck start my dick from the back, though. But Josh Wilson, as tiny as he was, was a baller for his size. windshipper fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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Grittybeard posted:Andre Carter was decent, not really good but deserving of a roster spot. He's the only one other than Peterson though. Nah you're right, I had to look him up because honestly I forgot. He was okay so he gets a pass. Rumph, Harris, and Woods can all suck my dang balls though Edit: also Aldon Smith, because he's a super talented gently caress-up and we could have had Watt or Quinn. It's gotta be Druckenmiller for the Niners though. Young's successor who sucked hard, got made fun of by Walsh, and is likely a rapist. gently caress that guy. TheHoosier fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:I'm biased (and also not a Steelers fan) but holy poo poo Jarvis Jones is exhibit A of freak DE/OLB in college who couldn't do poo poo in the NFL. Six sacks in four years and nothing else worth noting, holy poo poo gently caress off. He was amazing in college. Like 15 sacks a season. But then he ran a 4.8 something and welp
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Suggs did the same thing and he's the poster boy for the Hall of Very Good. Jarvis Jones was a sure thing but for the injury history. Just turns out there is no sure thing in the draft.
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There's no way Hack is the biggest Jets bust. Come on. He might not even end up being the worst 2nd round QB the Jets have drafted: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NaglBr00.htm Gholston has to be up there but honestly Dee Milliner might be just as bad or worse. 9th overall and played fewer games with the team than Gholston. Vernon Gholston even got signed by 2 other teams after being released; Milliner is essentially dead to the world.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 14:26 |
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Oh god, just from the URL I knew. I guess most of his last name is in there but still at that player. If I were a betting man though I'd say Hack's career will be worse.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 14:28 |
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Which would be the worse experience for a fan? Picking Browning Nagle and actually trying to use him, or picking Brett Favre but never getting to see him do a damned thing with your team? They were back to back picks in 1991.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 14:34 |
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Trading a HoF QB that never played for your team for a 1st round pick and subsequently using that 1st on bust RB* seems worse to me but that probably because we already have a laundry list of tragedy. There's been countless articles written on the Jets actually wanting Favre and getting snaked one pick ahead of them. That's bad. It's almost as bad as having the 1st pick in the draft when Manning was coming out and your HC not guaranteeing he'd be taken so he stays in school another year. *Seriously, why isn't Tony Smith on this list for the Falcons? He's way worse than the ones listed.
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# ? Sep 1, 2017 14:45 |
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Looking over Cowboys first rounders over the years, they've typically done pretty well. Maybe Bobby Carpenter? If we want to dip into the second round it'd have to be Quincy Carter.
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Personal feelings aside (and going non QB) I'll throw in Desmond Howard for the Skins. After his first practice teammates were telling reporters he couldn't play. Got paid by the Raiders tho
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The Patriots of the modern era have drafted a bunch of disappointments, but never really any horrific busts. The worst player / draft position is probably... Eugene Chung? A bad tackle around like pick 12 that played 2-3 years at tackle, poorly, then got snatched in the expansion draft by the Jaguars, and was out of the league a year later.
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Kalli posted:The Patriots of the modern era have drafted a bunch of disappointments, but never really any horrific busts. Kenneth Simms was a DE taken #1 overall who was bad at getting sacks and good at getting caught with cocaine.
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There's quite a few Pats busts based on injuries alone. Easley, Katzenmoyer, Robert Edwards, Chris Canty...
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I'll always remember ol man Coughlin sending a limo to pick up R. Jay Soward so he'd get to practice on time.
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The Belichick Patriots have only drafted twice in the top 10 (Seymour and Mayo), so that makes it hard to have any really high profile horrific busts. But that hasn't stopped them from having plenty of awful busts from late firsts and early seconds. There are soooo many. The team is really bad a picking good players in the second. Seems like Bill always tries to get to cute instead of just taking the most talented player available.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:The Belichick Patriots have only drafted twice in the top 10 (Seymour and Mayo), so that makes it hard to have any really high profile horrific busts. But that hasn't stopped them from having plenty of awful busts from late firsts and early seconds. There are soooo many. The team is really bad a picking good players in the second. Seems like Bill always tries to get to cute instead of just taking the most talented player available. Their wide receiver drafting under Belichick has always been really weak, but they never spent any high picks on the position either so it's a bunch of code:
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:The Belichick Patriots have only drafted twice in the top 10 (Seymour and Mayo), so that makes it hard to have any really high profile horrific busts. But that hasn't stopped them from having plenty of awful busts from late firsts and early seconds. There are soooo many. The team is really bad a picking good players in the second. Seems like Bill always tries to get to cute instead of just taking the most talented player available. Twice? That is really freaking impressive
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Injury wise a bunch of guys busted/seriously disappointed. But Dominque Easley was the end of the 1st round. It's hard for those guys to really be huge busts. I completely blanked on Chris Canty's existence though, so it's probably him.weird Asian candy posted:Twice? That is really freaking impressive And Mayo was because the 49ers traded their 2008 1st rounder and a 2007 4th to the Patriots in exchange for the Patriots 2007 1st, pick (#28). The 49ers took Joe Staley with that pick, and the Patriots traded the 4th for Randy Moss and took Mayo with the 10th overall, so it worked out pretty darn well for both teams
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sean10mm posted:Their wide receiver drafting under Belichick has always been really weak, but they never spent any high picks on the position either so it's a bunch of Now do that chart for dbacks.
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Kalli posted:And Mayo was because the 49ers traded their 2008 1st rounder and a 2007 4th to the Patriots in exchange for the Patriots 2007 1st, pick (#28). Insane.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Now do that chart for dbacks. Here you go! code:
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Those are some awful players.
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Teams we still need busts for: Jaguars Eagles Packers Cardinals And then we can get to culling down to one per team.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:I'm biased (and also not a Steelers fan) but holy poo poo Jarvis Jones is exhibit A of freak DE/OLB in college who couldn't do poo poo in the NFL. Six sacks in four years and nothing else worth noting, holy poo poo gently caress off. The 2013 draft shouldn't count; it's on a whole other level w/r/t busts Randaconda posted:I'll always remember ol man Coughlin sending a limo to pick up R. Jay Soward so he'd get to practice on time. Justin Blackmon looked like the second coming of Calvin Johnson until the drugs Matt Jones and Reggie Williams probably wouldn't have been great but the drugs didn't help The Jaguars should stop getting their WRs addicted to drugs Emanuel Collective fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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