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atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
what happen next? what do computers look like today if so. need to know quickly, important

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Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
If they did, by definition whatever we had today would look like the computers we have today. Hth.

Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Aug 30, 2017

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Schadenboner posted:

If they did, by definition whatever we had today would look like the computers we have today. Hth.

Not helpful

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
bell labs would look @ the code and say gorsh, we need a computer 10x the size to have the memory to run this & the hardware races would be reset from that point so your computer today would be as big as a fridge

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
they'd say "not invented here" and proceed to make C.

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

bell labs was cool & good, rip

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

atomicthumbs posted:

what happen next? what do computers look like today if so. need to know quickly, important

the bell labs guys have a long laugh at this useless garbage.

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
they consider for about two seconds the merits of a language whose runtime requires more ram than all computers in the world combined currently have. they laugh heartily at a language designed to solve thread safety and parallel processing issues in a world where every computer has one CPU and multithreaded operating systems haven't been invented yet.

ultravoices
May 10, 2004

You are about to embark on a great journey. Are you ready, my friend?

atomicthumbs posted:

what happen next? what do computers look like today if so. need to know quickly, important

Algol syntax language users are hunted down and hanged from telephone poles by the rust evangelist strike force.

Weed goku
Aug 25, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 5 years!

atomicthumbs posted:

what happen next? what do computers look like today if so. need to know quickly, important

they find your parents and convince them not to have you

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
instead of beige the default pc color of the 90s would have been rust red

pram
Jun 10, 2001

Weed goku posted:

they find your parents and convince them not to have you

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



they get really depressed at how bad things will become, and decide to quit and become farmers and craftsmen before its too late. the internet is never invented.

the world of 2017 is a wonderful place of kindness and loving

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
can't trust the rust

Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
this is like asking if you took the source code, audio, and art assets for Doom 2016, and used a time machine to give them to id Software in 1993, what would happen?

the answer is nothing. nothing would happen, because no computer at the time could run it, or even compile it.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Weed goku posted:

they find your parents and convince them not to have you

joke's on them, that wouldn't work for a variety of reasons

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Doc Block posted:

this is like asking if you took the source code, audio, and art assets for Doom 2016, and used a time machine to give them to id Software in 1993, what would happen?

the answer is nothing. nothing would happen, because no computer at the time could run it, or even compile it.

the whole data centre would go dark

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
*strokes beard curiously* why not just tell the computer when to release memory ??

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
what's good a bout rust is it as good as python

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
it's the current hipste that everyone's getting into, the merits are irrelevant

ultravoices
May 10, 2004

You are about to embark on a great journey. Are you ready, my friend?

Gazpacho posted:

*strokes beard curiously* why not just tell the computer when to release memory ??

perhaps we will call this 'trash gathering' or 'dumpstering' or 'rubbish assemblage'

Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
can you imagine garbage collection on a system with 4 kilobytes of RAM and a 64 kilobyte address space? hope you got some swap space on that 1MB tire-sized hard disk drive.

pram
Jun 10, 2001
these are the kinds of heady questions young Will Hunting would think of whilst working at the computer garbage dump

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Doc Block posted:

can you imagine garbage collection on a system with 4 kilobytes of RAM and a 64 kilobyte address space? hope you got some swap space on that 1MB tire-sized hard disk drive.
microsoft basic had GC for strings so it's not quite so far fetched

oh no blimp issue
Feb 23, 2011

tidy up your references yourselves you slobs

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

echinopsis posted:

what's good a bout rust is it as good as python

imagine you had a had a tool chest full of sharp and dangerous tools. you look at it and say to yourself that you should probably take some precautions to avoid injuring yourself with tools. so you have someone put you in a straight jacket, duct tape you to a chair across the room behind a plexiglass barrier, and put a helmet on you with an arm on it. you can now use the tools with the arm, secure in the knowledge that you will be not be injured. sure, your productivity may suffer slightly...

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Sorry 'bout your poor understanding of causality, bro.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

The Management posted:

imagine you had a had a tool chest full of sharp and dangerous tools. you look at it and say to yourself that you should probably take some precautions to avoid injuring yourself with tools. so you have someone put you in a straight jacket, duct tape you to a chair across the room behind a plexiglass barrier, and put a helmet on you with an arm on it. you can now use the tools with the arm, secure in the knowledge that you will be not be injured. sure, your productivity may suffer slightly...

i'd still manage to help myself

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe

echinopsis posted:

what's good a bout rust is it as good as python

rust is trying to be a systems programming language a-la C/C++

its p cool but the language isn't stable yet

it has good interop with C libraries, and comes with a built-in build-system and package manager

the big claim to fame is that Rust gives you guaranteed memory safety if you use it right, even in multi-threaded applications

also the metaprogramming system makes C++ templates look like a gay babby

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Poopernickel posted:

rust is trying to be a systems programming language a-la C/C++

its p cool but the language isn't stable yet

it has good interop with C libraries, and comes with a built-in build-system and package manager

the big claim to fame is that Rust gives you guaranteed memory safety if you use it right, even in multi-threaded applications

also the metaprogramming system makes C++ templates look like a gay babby

cool, just like perl

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
I'm back. What the gently caress is this node.js poo poo

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe
you blew it up, ah drat you!! god drat you all to hell

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
fibre optics was developed from technology taken from the roswell and corona ufo crashes

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe
show them asm.js and tell them in the future a C hello-world will require a boatload of RAM and a 2.4 gigger hurtzz

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

just start hitting everybody you come across

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

ultravoices posted:

perhaps we will call this 'trash gathering' or 'dumpstering' or 'rubbish assemblage'
don't title your posts

Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

(_!_)
Buglord
they knew about (and probably made fun of) garbage collection, it was invented in the 50s with lisp. :yosbutt:

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

im garbage collecting this thread

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ultravoices
May 10, 2004

You are about to embark on a great journey. Are you ready, my friend?

Gazpacho posted:

don't title your posts

now that there is a reference count to them greater than zero, it will never be collected.

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