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 Welcome comrades to the UKMT September thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk It's like this, but with less Earth & Fire and more Rain & Misery.  In The News  • British Gas announces an increase in electricity prices of 12.5%, a possible Going Postal reference. • The government says it doesn't want any border between NI and RoI post Brexit, and proposes 'technological solutions' to allow no border with an EU member state. Brace for Bitcoinery. • A woman who was deceived into a relationship with an undercover officer has been ordered to pay £7,000 to cover the Met's legal bills. • A secret data-sharing deal has been exposed between Greater London Authority and the Home Office to deport rough sleepers. • Britain's prison population is set to hit a high of 88,000 over the next 5 years. Better policing of historic offences, or a 'victory' for austerity and made up crimes? • The £3bn aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrives in Portsmouth. Current aircraft carried: 0 • Labour announces support for a 'soft Brexit'. The current negotiation team announces support for 'gently caress knows'. Juncker announces that Britain's current paperwork, representing over a year of effort, is 'not good enough'. • The first contested cases under the Psychoactive Substances Act have collapsed as a Judge and the Crown's own expert witness concluded that nitrous oxide is exempt as the law is worded, leading to legislative and policy review. • Also citing the Psychoactive Substances Act, Big Ben's bongs are taken away for four years. • JUST Yorkshire has released an independent report on Prevent with a surprising conclusion: The whole project is built on a foundation of racism and Islamophobia and the best path forward is to scrap it completely and start over. • Days until Theresa May steps down: 728 maybe goddamnedtwisto's Indecent Exposition  In which goddamnedtwisto writes at length about internet porn, obscenity, and spaghetti bolognese. The Porn Identity The Porn Supremacy The Porn Ultimatum UKMT Back to School Special Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy At The Café – Malatesta The Method of Freedom – Malatesta In Praise of Idleness – Russell Political Ideals – Russell Declaration – Hardt and Negri Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo God and the State – Bakunin The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg Violence – Slavoj Zizek Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber Flat Earth News - Nick Davies Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons The Dying Sept-embers of Summer International Day of Democracy UKMT August UKMT July All Previous UKMTs (thanks Pesky Splinter) Wakes Week Scotpol Thread Racial Justice Sunday EDL/Fash Thread Sedantag Europol Thread Banned Books Week Paedogeddon/Press Corruption Thread Michael Faraday Day Day Trainchat Thread Ask a Stupid Question Day Political Cartoons Thread Software Freedom Day #ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix). Guldize quote:1. It's not a person's fault if they are poor; UKMT Commissars (thanks feedmegin) quote:I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land.  Thanks blunt. Also Ross Anderson's Presentation to the Cambridge University Ethics in Mathematics Society is online and well worth a watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWwaVe1RF0c Related, more mathematical puzzles are welcome. 
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yikes, well this is awkward, but its still august 
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Sep 1, 2017 00:11
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Calibanibal posted:yikes, well this is awkward, but its still august No, it's currently 12 minutes past midnight, 1st September 2017.
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Sep 1, 2017 00:12
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10rysNAZx84
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Sep 1, 2017 00:26
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What's wrong with the world. I earn more than the median wage in Ireland but my landlord decides not to renew my lease so now I have to move an hour away from where I live and work to be with my parents, along with my partner and two children. Used to be a person could support a family on the income of a unskilled job. But now people earning decent wages are being hosed by greedy landlords looking to extract as much wealth from a housing crisis as they can.
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Sep 1, 2017 00:42
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I approve this message.
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Sep 1, 2017 00:44
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Marenghi posted:What's wrong with the world. Same as it's always been. Someone does something that should get them punched but they don't get punched. The definition of "self-defense" needs to be expanded to non-physical aggressions.
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Sep 1, 2017 00:45
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Since we're in landlordchat Just moved outa my old flat in Dundee to return to beautiful Newcastle. Said flat had a small windowless bathroom with extractor fan. Bathroom constantly got mouldy. We left door open after showering and used fan (i mean it came on with the light and stayed on after so we couldn't *not* use it). Bathroom still moulded up. Cleaning mould off removed paint, even with mild agents designed specifically for mould. I've never seen a bathroom get mouldy like that before. Estate agents (Belvoir, which must be French for "arseholes") said we must've not taken due care, all cleaning/repair will be billed to us. Anyone know if we can dispute this? Or how?
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Sep 1, 2017 00:54
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Possibly if you obsessively photographed the state of everything at every stage. I strongly recommend doing that if you rent anywhere, by the way.
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Sep 1, 2017 00:56
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Was the deposit in a deposit scheme, did you take pictures after you cleaned the flat, how much did they charge you to clean it?
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Sep 1, 2017 00:56
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Total Meatlove posted:Was the deposit in a deposit scheme, did you take pictures after you cleaned the flat, how much did they charge you to clean it? Yes, no but they have, not been charged yet.
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Sep 1, 2017 00:58
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Regarde Aduck posted:Same as it's always been. Someone does something that should get them punched but they don't get punched. The definition of "self-defense" needs to be expanded to non-physical aggressions. Hard to punch someone you never saw. Letting agents act as go between for everything. Been here a year and never saw the man I pay half my monthly wages to. The wonder of capitalism, it allows a shield of bureaucracy to protect the exploiter from the exploited.
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Sep 1, 2017 01:00
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A fun maths puzzle is to calculate how large a proportion of your take home is spent on rent, and set an alarm to remind you of the exact moment each Wednesday when you stop working that week to pay your landlord's mortgage and start earning for yourself. OK, maybe that one isn't so much fun. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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Sep 1, 2017 01:07
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winegums posted:Since we're in landlordchat What you need to do is immediately tell the landlord/agency that you do not accept responsibility for this. They then have a certain number of days to agree or not. If they disagree, you then need to raise a dispute with the deposit protection service which will then act as arbiter and I suspect will side with you. Good luck. Do NOT accept money back until you've gone through the service.
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Sep 1, 2017 01:10
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big scary monsters posted:A fun maths puzzle is to calculate how large a proportion of your take home is spent on rent, and set an alarm to remind you of the exact moment each Wednesday when you stop working that week to pay your landlord's mortgage and start earning for yourself. "Wednesday" 
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Sep 1, 2017 01:18
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What he said. No matter what the landlord or letting agent says, the money is yours until they can prove to an independent adjucator otherwise, or you agree to them taking it by accepting an offer.
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Sep 1, 2017 01:19
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Or you stick a bunch of failed bus batteries in the middle of the property that cost more for them to get rid of than settle the amount. Hypothetically.
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Sep 1, 2017 01:27
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B7msJWjdhE
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Sep 1, 2017 04:55
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Before I clicked this I had a good idea what it was going to be. Before the video loaded and all I saw was the 90 minutes playtime I was even more sure. IFM do you actually watch this poo poo or just link it?
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Sep 1, 2017 05:28
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winegums posted:Before I clicked this I had a good idea what it was going to be. Before the video loaded and all I saw was the 90 minutes playtime I was even more sure. I'm just linking him. He's the lolcow of the far left
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Sep 1, 2017 05:34
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it's always bizarre to read about the UK housing crisis; there's one sphere of intelligentsia where the private rented sector is self-evidently a force that increases the housing supply (and public policy of the day sucks for not sufficiently supporting them), contemporaneous with another sphere where buy-to-let landlords are a self-evident scourge on affordable housing (and public policy of the day sucks for not sufficiently dismantling them) never do the twain meet, naturally i blame neoliberalism; no, really - even amongst the left the rhetoric is couched in terms of individual rights and obligations. the more socialist aspects of public policy thinking, like the production of variety, its distribution, and allocation, are all quietly sidelined. this is a blinder that makes it difficult to articulate public policy means and goals in a productive way
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Sep 1, 2017 06:14
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Shock horror, immigration detention centres still suck!bbc posted:G4S has suspended nine members of staff from an immigration removal centre near Gatwick Airport, following a BBC Panorama undercover investigation. Hummm who would have thought, given how sternly they were talked to after the rape scandal. It would be nice if the Home Office would investigate instead of BBC Panorama too, but I guess they can't take the time out of their busy schedule. E: phoneposting E2: also  at the official G4S statement:G4S posted:"We continue to focus on the care and wellbeing of detainees at Brook House." We might just beat and abuse them a bit, but we totally have their wellbeing at the forefront of our minds. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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Sep 1, 2017 08:49
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quote:The international trade secretary, Liam Fox, has ratcheted up the government’s war of words with the EU over Brexit by saying Britain will not be “blackmailed” into paying an excessive exit settlement to speed up a deal. This'll go over great  The most potent threat imaginable would simply be "we'll just leave that for Liam Fox to figure out".
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Sep 1, 2017 08:49
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So is the "negotiating strategy" to slag off the EU constantly, act surprised when they don't just roll over and give us everything we want, and then blame the EU for the failure of Brexit
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Sep 1, 2017 08:53
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:This'll go over great Depends on how much they'd get his "business friends" to pay him this time I guess. Seems like it would be a pretty cost-effective tactic for the EU too.
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Cutting Benefits is just good efficiencyquote:A mother killed herself after her disabled son lost a string of benefits and support, a coroner said. I don't really know what to say except loving hell.
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Gort posted:So is the "negotiating strategy" to slag off the EU constantly, act surprised when they don't just roll over and give us everything we want, and then blame the EU for the failure of Brexit
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Gort posted:So is the "negotiating strategy" to slag off the EU constantly, act surprised when they don't just roll over and give us everything we want, and then blame the EU for the failure of Brexit Don't forget the final step of becoming a tax and regulatory haven so that
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Gort posted:So is the "negotiating strategy" to slag off the EU constantly, act surprised when they don't just roll over and give us everything we want, and then blame the EU for the failure of Brexit I mean it has the virtue of consistency.
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Hallucinogenic Toreador posted:Don't forget the final step of becoming a tax and regulatory haven so that
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fancy a good laugh to cheer you up after a hard week?https://www.ft.com/content/0c7953a0-8e64-11e7-9084-d0c17942ba93 posted:Pradeep Chand, a 70-year-old former finance director who advises the shareholder association, switched all of his self-invested personal pension into Northern Rock shares in 2005 “in the belief this was a safe, profitable, provincial UK bank”. former finance director who's never heard the aphorism about eggs and baskets
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Gort posted:So is the "negotiating strategy" to slag off the EU constantly, act surprised when they don't just roll over and give us everything we want, and then blame the EU for the failure of Brexit Seems so, yes. I dunno who's supposed to be convinced by it though? Even genuine brexiters will be more inclined to just say "good riddance, now shut the negotiations down" and then wait for the brexitopia to deliver. I guess maybe it's aimed at the French and Germans, in some effort to make national governments put pressure on Barnier and the commission? To me it looks more than a bit like the old "well give us what we want or we're leaving  " routine, which just doesn't pack the same punch anymore.
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Gort posted:So is the "negotiating strategy" to slag off the EU constantly, act surprised when they don't just roll over and give us everything we want, and then blame the EU for the failure of Brexit The "negotiating strategy" should be called "Jesus gently caress We Have The Tory Conference Coming Up And Those Brexiteers Are Foaming At The Mouth, Holy gently caress There's Jacob Rees Mogg And His Nanny". Davis can't do any big numbers or 'surrender' on the EU exit bill before the conference or May will lose her head at conference, and be replaced by someone worse - hard as that can be to imagine sometimes. Meanwhile, Barnier and his team have a solid mandate from 27 EU Member States - guess how likely is its that those 27 want to change their mind every time the Brits come up with a new idea; the lines drawn by that group - Ireland, exit bill and citizen rights first, trade etc later - won't be changed. If the UK had been cleverer in its diplomacy they might've been able to peel off some of the Eastern EU countries like Poland, Hungary and maybe Romania and fractured the bloc, but you spent an entire election and referendum season demonising their plumbers and then appointed Davis, Fox, and Johnson. As Mark Blyth put it; the UK already had the best deal they were ever going to get (yes to the European Market, yes to having a big seat at all the tables, no to the dumb-rear end euro and no to the "ever closer union" - there was never a better deal available and there never will be. The UK's position papers, and I read them all, read like they really want to keep all of Europe except pay for none of it, which is of course rubbish to the max.
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The target audience is Leave voters who want the government to be standing up to those smelly Europeans, but also don't want food prices to rise, the economy to tank (which will lead to higher taxes and more spending cuts) or the annual pilgrimage to Spain to get more expensive / more bureaucratic. So the government will swing its dick around and make lots of noises about STANDING UP FOR BRITANE while also pre-baking an ARROGANT CONTINENTALS SCHEME TO RUIN ARE GREAT NATION narrative onto which to deflect blame when food prices rise, the economy tanks and the annual pilgrimage to Spain becomes both more expensive and more bureaucratic.
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Junior G-man posted:As Mark Blyth put it; the UK already had the best deal they were ever going to get (yes to the European Market, yes to having a big seat at all the tables, no to the dumb-rear end euro and no to the "ever closer union" - there was never a better deal available and there never will be. The UK's position papers, and I read them all, read like they really want to keep all of Europe except pay for none of it, which is of course rubbish to the max.
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Sep 1, 2017 09:47
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its cool seeing all the different ways the global economy might crash again before brexit happens imo https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/903...D612%23lastpost
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Gort posted:So is the "negotiating strategy" to slag off the EU constantly, act surprised when they don't just roll over and give us everything we want, and then blame the EU for the failure of Brexit
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Gort posted:So is the "negotiating strategy" to slag off the EU constantly, act surprised when they don't just roll over and give us everything we want, and then blame the EU for the failure of Brexit
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Sep 1, 2017 10:32
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Can't vote for something that wasn't an option.
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Luckily they do have backup plans, though, such as: - Bring up The War. - Announce We've Brexited Already. - What Would Happen If David Davis Just Knocked Out Jean-Claude Juncker?
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