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FrozenVent posted:Monty Hall is dead. This is the explanation that helped me get it: Imagine if there were a hundred doors, but still only one winner. You pick one, then they open 98 others to reveal nothing. Do you keep the one you picked or switch to the other door they didn't open? Well, there's a one percent chance you picked the winning door out of a hundred, and a 99% chance you didn't (or on the actual show with its 3 doors, 33% vs. 66%), so you should always switch.
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Hexyflexy posted:I don't want to say democracy has been proved a total failure, but really, democracy is a total failure. I would argue the opposite. We've got basically the chaos president, a band of gilded-age wannabes looting/defunding their departments, a completely dysfunctional house/senate, and an obscene amount of empty seats in positions that actually do things. But for the most part, things are still ok. Like don't get me wrong, the poo poo that's happening is horrific and there's literally too many things that are hosed up for me to list. But it could be so, so much worse. Doc Hawkins posted:This is the explanation that helped me get it: I got yelled at one time in grad school when I was helping out a quantitative analysis undergrad class by yelling MONTY HALL and promptly left to take a poo poo. When I came back the undergrads were still fighting over that fukkin goat.
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Yea I take comfort in knowing that the US is an extremely slow ship to change course by design.
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Doc Hawkins posted:This is the explanation that helped me get it: I'm just going to accept this even if it makes me want to hit something. I can see it but I hate it. Direct democracy has shown elements of success in that the majority of citizens have been shown to be just smart enough, by a small margin, to not vote for Trump, even when shown by multiple, reputable source that he is unfit. What is concerning is that people have shown a desire to avoid complexity in any form at all and revel in Wonderbread simplicity, just hop in that shitpile and role around until it's everywhere and you can't get it off or figure out what's real. An absolute rejection. Just tell me what's real in 140 characters, post a meme on my wall that I can believe, sounds mostly true and follows my values and I'm gonna believe the poo poo out of it. In fact, I'm going to make an effort to reject facts or whatever those things are to follow the rabbit hole of this false narrative. There's gotta be some kind of awesome French or German word for the absolute rejection of intelligence and effort, like ennui but opposite almost. That's it only worse. Edit: This is exactly, like down to the orange skin, what the winning side wanted so I'm going to have to say there are some wrong opinions here because in terms of democracy that's a pretty big success. Edited to add a comma and not fix direct democracy statement as it's only close enough. lightpole fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Oct 1, 2017 |
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Saw a guy I know who's an enlisted nuke on a sub post some Mike "drink gorilla cum everyday" Cernovich bullshit about a Puerto Rican cop calling a radio station saying that the mayor of San Juan is lying about Trump to get votes for Dems. That wouldn't even make any loving sense if it were an election year there but keep on keeping on I guess. Which reminds me, another thing that has been pissing me off is seeing *~Resistance~* types on Twitter proclaim that the good news in all of this is that the Puerto Rican dispora is totally gonna turn Florida blue again you guys! Yes because the one thing I think of amidst all the suffering these people are going through is how it will play out in the electoral college. 
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Every year is an election year. Trump is already campaigning for 2020.
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:Every year is an election year. Trump is already campaigning for 2020. He filed the paper work like the day after his record breaking inauguration, period. It lets him avoid taxes or finance laws or something. Also he's a walking pile of narcissism and basically has no purpose in life beyond the crowds adoring him.
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Allah willing his obesity will kill him before 2021
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tastefully arranged labia posted:Allah willing his obesity will kill him before 2021 Chokes to death on a piece of deep fried cheese.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914497947517227008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Acebuckeye13 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914497947517227008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
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Have you guys got anyone in charge looking after all your Nuclear power stations and weapons yet? Do they actually know what they are doing?
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:Every year is an election year. Trump is already campaigning for 2020. Makes sense that you'd follow the forever war with the forever campaign.
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Burt posted:Have you guys got anyone in charge looking after all your Nuclear power stations and weapons yet? Do they actually know what they are doing?
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The administration's public relations strategy for Puerto Rico just leaked. They're completely full of poo poo, top to bottom. https://www.axios.com/scoop-homeland-security-adviser-pushes-upbeat-pr-campaign-for-puerto-rico-2491615820.html And the Spanish Catalonia Independence referendum is being shut down and it's leading to really interesting video, including firefighters protecting people from cops: https://twitter.com/MStothard/status/914383185936621568 https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/914453806712344577
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Countdown until Trump claims this has something to do with Hillary and vote tampering.
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facialimpediment posted:The administration's public relations strategy for Puerto Rico just leaked. They're completely full of poo poo, top to bottom. I was about to post about the situation in Catalonia, I've been following it fairly closely the last day. poo poo's going nuclear.
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How much of a loving nazi cop do you have to be to follow orders telling you to drag people out of polling stations? Jesus gently caress.
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TheGreasyStrangler posted:How much of a loving nazi cop do you have to be to follow orders telling you to drag people out of polling stations? Jesus gently caress. At least do it like a civilized country and just disenfranchise people.
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but It Can't Happen Here. Catalonia, California, whatever.
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If Georgia was voting to secede again, y'all would be cheering for riot cops with Sherman's portrait sprayed on their shields to be dragging hicks out.
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TheGreasyStrangler posted:How much of a loving nazi cop do you have to be to follow orders telling you to drag people out of polling stations? Jesus gently caress. We have similar police in the UK, I know it's different in the US because everything is done state by state. Your normal UK cop is fine and would rather resign rather than pull that poo poo, then, we have the MET, the greater London force. You do not talk to them, look at them or breathe anywhere near them because they'll cave your face in and not care. I believe the Spanish version of the MET has been sent in by the government, this is a terrible mistake, but there you go.
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Dead Reckoning posted:If Georgia was voting to secede again, y'all would be cheering for riot cops with Sherman's portrait sprayed on their shields to be dragging hicks out. This is a pretty bad post
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lightpole posted:There's gotta be some kind of awesome French or German word for the absolute rejection of intelligence and effort, like ennui but opposite almost. That's it only worse. Selbstverschuldete Unmündigkeit.
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I would support our police in gracefully escorting southerners to the polls to vote for secession
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Dead Reckoning posted:If Georgia was voting to secede again, y'all would be cheering for riot cops with Sherman's portrait sprayed on their shields to be dragging hicks out. No, I don't think anyone here would cheer for American citizens' right to vote being violently suppressed. Now, what happens after they secede and stop being American citizens would be a different issue.
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Dead Reckoning posted:If Georgia was voting to secede again, y'all would be cheering for riot cops with Sherman's portrait sprayed on their shields to be dragging hicks out. "We just want to put the blacks back in the fields and hang all the gays but if you disagree with me that's fine, I guess you have a lot of growing up to do."
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Dead Reckoning posted:If Georgia was voting to secede again, y'all would be cheering for riot cops with Sherman's portrait sprayed on their shields to be dragging hicks out. Excuse me, but I want Georgia out of the Union.
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Arcella posted:"We just want to put the blacks back in the fields and hang all the gays but if you disagree with me that's fine, I guess you have a lot of growing up to do."
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Dead Reckoning posted:That's kind of my point: you can't look at the government shutting down a secession attempt and say, "well clearly the police are the evil ones here." Is that seriously what you got out of my post? No poo poo the government is in the wrong for issuing the orders. Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Oct 1, 2017 |
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It's a pretty murky situation when you consider some of the breakaways we supported and others we haven't.
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Secession isn't supported under international law, and the Spanish constitution doesn't give the autonomous communities the right to secede (unlike Scotland's arrangement with the UK, for example). The optics and methods are bad, but the Spanish government is within its right to squash it.
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psydude posted:Secession isn't supported under international law, and the Spanish constitution doesn't give the autonomous communities the right to secede (unlike Scotland's arrangement with the UK, for example). The optics and methods are bad, but the Spanish government is within its right to squash it. you're not wrong but the right way to squash it isn't shooting them with rubber bullets
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:you're not wrong but the right way to squash it isn't shooting them with rubber bullets Duh.
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Flikken posted:Wouldn't it been better to just block access to the polling stations? They could also have let the voting happen and ignored the results, since the referendum isn't binding.
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TheGreasyStrangler posted:They could also have let the voting happen and ignored the results, since the referendum isn't binding. Strategically this would have been a mistake, since it would have seemingly lent legitimacy to the movement. For example, look at how Russia used their referendum in Crimea to justify annexation. I'm sure if you took a straw poll in Alabama they'd be on board to secession, too. Of course, by sending in police to violently crack down on it they've accomplished the same thing as just letting it go ahead. So good job, Spain.
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psydude posted:Of course, by sending in police to violently crack down on it they've accomplished the same thing as just letting it go ahead. So good job, Spain. I would say this was worse, not "the same thing." Destroying ballots and assaulting voters is the move of a fearful government, not a confident one.
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Dead Reckoning posted:If Georgia was voting to secede again, y'all would be cheering for riot cops with Sherman's portrait sprayed on their shields to be dragging hicks out. They aren't, so I'm not.
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