Artificial Intelligence

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eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

smoka is by no means the only one to make the ontological-privilege argument against AI

roger penrose thinks there's some quantum element to both intelligence and consciousness that means you're not going to get either of those from a Turing machine

personally I don't buy it: even if there are quantum elements involved, simulation of a biological system would just get more difficult, not be impossible, though depending on just how difficult that could be a distinction without a difference

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eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

what disappoints me is that there isn't anywhere near the same focus on symbolic reasoning that there used to be

symbolic reasoning systems like Cyc are actually rather good now and do actually do the "learn how to learn new things" bit

however they don't result in billions of dollars of sales of specialized vector hardware, and can be hard to parallelize and use at a large scale too, so they haven't had the same level of investment that neural nets have been getting in this latest resurgence in interest in AI

# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 09:33

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

it's worth reading Lenat's "The Nature of Heuristics" to see what the symbolic-reasoning people were up to

also "Theory Formation by Heuristic Search" and "Eurisko: A Program That Learns New Heuristics and Domain Concepts"

not a neural net in the bunch, just a whole lot of frames in a custom language atop Lisp

eschaton fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Sep 9, 2017

# ¿ Sep 9, 2017 08:27

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

echinopsis posted:

we install kill switches and also make sure they cant gently caress and reproduce

because of course a super intelligence wouldn't be able to subvert its own programming and disable any software kill switch

needs to be a locally-triggered physical power cut, carried out by someone who can't be persuaded not to

# ¿ Sep 10, 2017 12:17

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

no but seriously is there any effort to make an ai that generates programs, possible better ais?

read the links I posted earlier in the thread, they're about an old design for what's effectively a self-improving AI

and there's not much difference between an AI improving itself or improving a copy of itself

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