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true AI is impossible like time travel
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Amethyst posted:if we build a machine that can classify any input stimulus one million times faster than we can, and react to it based on an evolving expert system several times larger and with much better efficacy than a human brain, can we really say it's not "true" intelligence just because it's not aware yes, because it can't correct an error
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Sep 8, 2017 04:11
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Amethyst posted:of course it can. consciousness has very little to do with correcting for errors and it has far less to do with basic decision making than you believe. consciousness isn't exclusively pattern matching
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Sep 8, 2017 04:15
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JewKiller 3000 posted:cool tricks aside i just don't see how we're going to program a general ai that learns, and learns how to learn, given our rudimentary understanding of how we do those things at the level of the brain. intelligence isn't just going to emerge because we stuff in more transistors, and it feels to me like we're pretty far away from the level of knowledge to bootstrap the system. what even is intelligence, surely it's more than just being a really good classifier? i'm not an ai researcher but we've seen this hype before and i'm not convinced it's any different this time true AI is impossible
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Sep 8, 2017 04:16
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it's impossible like time travel and free energy
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Sep 8, 2017 04:17
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it would be easier to go faster than light than to make an AI
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Sep 8, 2017 04:26
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Amethyst posted:conscious thoguht is an inefficient kludge to get us over an awkward period of physical environment discovery. lol stop taking peter watts so seriously
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Sep 8, 2017 04:29
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your consciousness isn't just your brain, every minuscule part of you is a sensory organ, that's impossible to artificially recreate
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Sep 8, 2017 04:37
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Amethyst posted:here are physical laws that prevent FTL travel. You seem to think there is a similar law regarding sentience. I dont see it what technology could exist that could artificially replicate every nerve ending in a human body?
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Sep 8, 2017 04:41
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Amethyst posted:a computer what materials would the computer use? cloning doesn't count
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Sep 8, 2017 04:42
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start here
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Sep 8, 2017 04:45
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Amethyst posted:Why is the computation performed in a physical neural network ontologically privileged over computation performed on transistors? because it's an entirely different structure
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Sep 8, 2017 04:49
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it would take an impossible amount of computing power, AI is straight up like time travel
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Sep 8, 2017 04:53
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Amethyst posted:where and why are you drawing a boundary around computation power? you're being incredibly naive
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Sep 8, 2017 05:01
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JewKiller 3000 posted:you're saying it's impossible but you can't explain why, you just pick a detail and say that's impossible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACmydtFDTGs
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Sep 8, 2017 05:05
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fart simpson posted:stop arguing with smoka yeah cause I'm right
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Sep 8, 2017 05:10
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Amethyst posted:a perfectly good platonic ideal smokadustbowl who is making perfectly valid arguments as the smokadustbowl currently reading that I have to say this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ld-JEDEx1Q
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Sep 8, 2017 05:21
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I hope that ten thousand years from now when they recreate my consciousness from my digital presence, the alien scientists have to watch that fart video
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Sep 8, 2017 05:30
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believe in the smokadustbowl that believes in you
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Sep 8, 2017 05:34
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JewKiller 3000 posted:you really are a poo poo poster 16 years baby
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