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DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Heath posted:

Why does that last map place Peoria outside of Peoria county? Like East Peoria, which is in fact not in Peoria county

That isn't the edge of the county, it's just really hard to see on the map. The poor parts of Peoria are gerrymandered into the democratic 17th district, and the rich parts are gerrymandered into the Republican 18th.

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DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Was I supposed to mention non-Chicago places to visit?

Cahokia Mounds is the only UNESCO World Heritage site in the Midwest, so suck on that other great prairie states. Cahokia was the center of Mississippian culture for about 500 years.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Parasol Prophet posted:

Come to Peoria, we have... had... Caterpillar.

Come visit the historic CAT Visitor Center. By historic, I mean not being used anymore.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Heath posted:

But hey, at least we got a really ugly museum out of it.

We had a really ugly museum. We got a really ugly museum with twice the floor space and a theater that is 'just as good as Imax, I swear'.

Here are some amenities that Peoria has to offer:
Good hospitals
An adequate private college
Minor League baseball
Minor League hockey
An orchestra
An (real) IMax theater and other cheaper movie heaters
A (really ugly) museum
A couple of planetariums
Golf Courses
Four play theaters of various sizes
An outdoor mall and a less impressive indoor mall
A 'super' walmart
A Bass Pro Shop (in East Peoria)
A Casino (also in East Peoria)
A concert arena
An 'eventplex' (which is a large music venue that serves alcohol).
A boardgame store (FLGS if you're dirty)
A wide range of restaurant options including (moderately) upscale, steakhouse, Indian, Lebanese, Vietnamese, Mexican, Sushi, and Chinese. And also less authentic alternatives for some of those, and a diner or two. And basically any fast food you could want. (There's a rumor we might get a Portillo's in 2018.)

Basically what I'm trying to say is,

Heath posted:

Peoria is quiet and boring. Rent is cheap. The food is great and generally cheap. Everyone who lives there hates everyone else but all share a mutual and unified hatred of Chicago, as is the purview of all down-staters.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Niwrad posted:

So what's the deal with the Tribune? I know they were more to the right but they seem to have swung real hard to the right lately. They wrote a bunch of editorials on how this tax plan is good despite it completely loving over people in this state. They even wrote an anti-NN piece. The Sun-Times took them to task.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/editorial-sorry-tribune-tax-reform-awful-for-chicago/

They’re going to be acquired by Sinclair Broadcast, so they’re getting a head start?

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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vyelkin posted:

The TV ads on the Olympics are getting unbearable, I can't go a single commercial break without getting "BISS IS A PHONY PROGRESSIVE JB PRITZKER IS THE MAN FOR DOWNSTATE I'M DICK DURBIN AND I SUPPORT JB" or (somehow even worse) "IVES IS A MADIGAN CRONY" using a clearly out-of-context clip where Ives criticizes Rauner for blaming everything on Madigan instead of getting anything done.

“Ives is a Madigan crony” is such a delightfully insane take. Well, to me, but I don’t have to watch it regurgitated every 30 minutes.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Monkey Fracas posted:

Ives mailed me a whole little book about how Rauner is a traitor to the conservative cause- might scan part of it in later

Yes, please.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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ArgaWarga posted:

It was cosponsored by Cards Against Humanity because we live in the dumbest possible time line.

Does the CAH guy live in Illinois or is he doing this all over?

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Oracle posted:

Also you should really be listening to the 21st if you want to really be informed on what’s up in Springfield.

How often do they do political segments? I’m not sure I could keep up with a daily, I mostly just listen to State Week.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Well, I learned something stupid tonight.

My parents, they of the poor voting choices persuasion, received a little newspaper this week. Every single article was about how bad Rauner is, except for the ones about how great Ives is. There's a comparison of gubernatorial candidates, except is only includes Rauner and Ives, so it's obviously a campaign ad.

It's produced by an LLC named Local Government Information Services. What a skunky name.
Who are they? Well, Local Government Information Services is owned by Upstream ideas, which is owned by Dan Proft.

Dan Proft the radio host, Dan Proft the Senior Fellow at IPI, Dan Proft the founder of Liberty Principles PAC.
That's right, Dan Proft is leveraging Super PAC funds to write fake newspapers to support Illinois Policy Institute.

Also there's like 30 of these dumb websites so I'm sure he's just spinning up more names for newspapers to keep people confused:
https://lgis.co/our_publications

https://capitolfax.com/2016/10/12/fec-complaint-filed-against-proft-newspapers/

gently caress dark money, and gently caress Dan Proft.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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dwarf74 posted:

I am in the Republican cesspit of the 18th district, though, so for congress I only got to vote for someone who will eventually lose to Darrin LaHood, even in a blue wave election. My choices were between "Dude who always runs but never wins," "Actually a Republican," and "Dude who doesn't seem to even be running and who might be on the ballot by mistake."

This Junius Rodriguez guy is so uninspiring. We are completely screwed, per usual.

Real fun feeling to know that the guy who tried to pass a bill that would kill me will have a nice long career.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Zarin posted:

drat, I definitely got that one wrong then. Hopefully I'm the only one that did :ohdear:

Yes (appointed, not elected) won by 27 according to the latest count. Which is shockingly close given that the question wording seemed to have a positive bias, and yes appeared higher on the ballot.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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I look forward to the libertarian gubernatorial candidate’s catchphrase being “Check in to Kash”.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Zarin posted:

Like . . . 27 individual votes? Yikes.

I think it's time to look up how to sign up for voting by mail; the sample ballot I used didn't have that on it, so I was blindsided in the booth. I probably spent more time on that single item than I did the rest of the ballot.

Bummer.

The final count came out after I looked, or I missed it:

Yes 11,009 (49.97%)
No 11,023 (50.03%)

(So, it flipped at the last moment. Or by mail in?)
Public Questions aren't actionable anyway.

In my opinion, the key to answering referendums correctly is always ask yourself, 'How are they trying to screw us this time?'

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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So, how much of the crazy vote is McCann expected to poach?

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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mastershakeman posted:

9/11 truther is way cooler than Holocaust denier

I'm excited to here about his Beyonce conspiracy theory. "Beyonce's umbrella is the umbrella of shadow government."

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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There is a third party candidate but he’s running on a Rauner isn’t evil enough platform.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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In my experience early voting also tends to involve basically no lines, although it may depend on where you live.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Lager posted:

Enjoy a rage tweet on the topic from someone who is definitely a real person, and who apparently believes Obama is either still president or is shadow mayor of Chicago.

https://twitter.com/Anthony36638905/status/1040304013563060224?s=19

What? You don’t have to use your bank routing number in your username to join Twitter? How will people know you’re a real person then?

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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What's the best way to get sample ballot information for local elections? I know we're electing a sheriff but it's not appearing on my state sample ballot, there's probably city council up too.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Willa Rogers posted:

^^^ Check your county's board of elections website.

"Click on the link below to view a Sample Ballot for the November 6, 2018 election.

NOT YET AVAILABLE"

Oh, you lazy rear end motherfuckers.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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KDdidit posted:

On the radio I get a ton of ads full of people talking about leaving the state, but it’s some supposedly non-partisan property tax focused group running them. Maybe it’s just sports radio, which I will be angrily avoiding for a few days anyway.

Oh, buddy, no. The main point of Super PACs is to lie about partisan affiliation, and obfuscate money sources.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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dwarf74 posted:

Second, yeah, lady, you can afford your pre-existing condition and have government insurance benefits. Shut the gently caress up unless you're in actual danger of losing that coverage or being unable to pay for it.

I have to say that I didn't realize I was actually a single issue voter until Republicans in the house decided they were cool with me going bankrupt and dying in a gutter.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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So my media habits don't involve me catching a lot of ads. I was surprised tonight to see an attack ad against McCann. Claiming he's on Madigan's side because he voted against some of Rauner's bills. When of course, the real reason McCann voted against them is because 'Baby cancels clean self, Reason: too insane'.

Who the hell cares about McCann anyway? I probably should have been able to guess, but I looked it up anyway.

The PAC sponsoring the ad was Economic Freedom Alliance. (Oh, there's the dogwhistle 'freedom', of course.)
Hopped over to campaignmoney.com, and it is primarily a lobbying arm for Illinois Manufacturers' Association.
Probably a commerce group that loves Rauner because he's so dedicated to destroying unions. I just went to wikipedia to be sure.

I was right, but also...
"On September 29, 1893, Illinois manufacturers met at the Grand Pacific Hotel to organize in opposition to the Sweatshop Law of 1893 that prohibited child labor and mandated an eight-hour workday. The manufacturers formed the Illinois Manufacturers' Protective Association 'for the purpose of co-operating to test the constitutionality of a recent act of the Legislature of this State limiting the hours of Female Labor.'"

Oh, cool, cool, yeah, that fits perfectly in this, the stupidest timeline.

DalaranJ fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Oct 7, 2018

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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The X-man cometh posted:

In addition, there is a maximum number of referenda that can be placed on the ballot ( I think it's 3 citywide, 2 countywide, 1 or 2 just for a ward, etc.)

So if there's a controversial referendum someone wants to put on, the establishment will quickly put some non controversial items on, to fill up all the slots.

Oh, yeah, that explains the "Should we sell thing we were literally not using and have the power to sell whenever we want?" referendum on my ballot.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Zarin posted:

I'm in IL District 18 (Lahood) / IL House District 18 (Gordon-Booth); Peoria, basically.

Last election, I thought I did a pretty decent job of researching beforehand, but then I got surprised by some random-rear end questions at the end of the ballot that I was completely unaware of and had no idea how to answer. (The one I recall related to an elected vs. appointed auditor or something; I only remember because post-vote researching indicated that I chose the wrong option).

http://www.peoriaelections.org/civicalerts.aspx?aid=27

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Eeyo posted:

I want to know more about this "pleasure driveway".

I have no idea why they changed their name to something that dumb but they're talking about,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandview_Drive

From the park district website:
"Grand View Drive’s topography and design integrity is much the same today as it was when the parkway was developed in 1903. The 2.52 mile meandering pleasure driveway has retained all of its original design."

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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I wouldn’t have guessed that the death business would have a revolving door.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Oracle posted:

Illinois Politics Megathread: goddamn am I tired of the grift.

I’d like to request a thread name change when JB becomes governor.

DalaranJ fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Oct 18, 2018

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Clouseau posted:



This loving guy

I love that the magakid’s expression seems to be saying, “Who’s the old man, his messaging is going a bit far for my taste.”

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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KillerQueen posted:

how or when other cities and towns downstate do it.

I’m pretty sure we won’t have an actual race here. We’ll just re-elect the guy who had someone arrested for making a parody Twitter account of him.

I bet Springfield has actually mayoral elections though.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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For a second, I was terrified that they wanted the sentence lowered.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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What are good strategies for Plurality-at-large voting?

To be more specific I have 5 votes to split among 10 candidates for 5 council positions.
In the primary, my top candidate got 9th place, my second candidate got 7th place and my third candidate got 1st place.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Bizarro Kanyon posted:

The windfall all but covers the deficit expected in Gov. J.B. Pritzker's budget.

the elimination of the federal state and local tax deduction and additional changes in the federal tax law that meant many taxpayers didn't withhold sufficient taxes through payroll deductions, backloading their end-of-year tax payments," Harris and Sturm wrote.

Help, why is reality so stupid?

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Why’s it so expensive in whiting? It’ll still be 3 bucks in state where I’m at in one of the largest cities In Illinois.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Having to hear that garbage really angers me because I would be dead without ICHIP paying for my UofC surgeon.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Oracle posted:

In unrelated news our county clerk had to post to Facebook to tell people that no, there were no local or state elections today but he appreciates the enthusiasm as people were calling the office all day to see where they could go vote.

2020 gonna be wild y'all.

There was an election reminder on “last week tonight” so I imagine this happened a lot. I know where to check online, so at least I didn’t embarrass myself in public.

Until now.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Zarin posted:

This is actually where my original question is about! :v:

Someone was telling me that Peoria was initially against it, and Tazewell pretty much said "That's okay with us! Come on across the river, everyone!" and Peoria nigh-instantly changed their tune.

However, all I can find are lovely PJStar articles from October that mention one place that "might" be through the red tape and ready to sell by Jan 1. I texted one friend who I thought would know about this stuff, and he said he had no idea yet. I suppose I can reach out to some of my friends from the theater days and see if 1). They're still into that and 2). If they know anything. :shrug:

Peoria’s real bad at reading the room, but they’re real good at letting Tazewell eat their lunch.


I’ve heard this one and I hate it.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Zarin posted:

Thanks! That helped clarify a few things.

I have to admit, I'm surprised that Pekin's newspaper was that useful. Huh.

The only thing I remember about my candidate research after voting a couple weeks ago was listening to this hour long podcast that sounds like it was recording on someone's phone. It was the only information I could get about the district 150 school board primary: https://www.peoriastory.com/peoriastory/2020/02/two-candidates-for-the-peoria-district-150-school-board-.html

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DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

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Zarin posted:

Any good places to watch the live address?

I think I watched it on ABC News 7 Chicago's site yesterday. Not sure if they'll have it again today or not (I didn't see a placeholder in the right pane on the main page so I dunno).

They do a live stream on ipdh of Pritzker’s daily presser, if that’s this it’ll be there.

e:
http://www.dph.illinois.gov/topics-services/diseases-and-conditions/diseases-a-z-list/coronavirus/media-publications/daily-press-briefings

ee: That's just linking to the same service as the post above.

DalaranJ fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Mar 20, 2020

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