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Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Honestly, we don't think about it much. gently caress off to Iowa already.

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Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Bird in a Blender posted:

Now the rumor is he wants to run for President.

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/935902021185687552

That's pretty ballsy. I would think it would be more of a play to be VP or something. I just don't see how he builds up a national name enough to get the support, and being the Latino/immigration candidate will only help in some of the heavy Latino states.

To be fair, the states with the largest latino populations are California, Texas, New York, Florida, and Illinois. Not that any normal candidate will carry those given party lines, but those states total 171 electoral college votes of the needed 270.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Also, Sam Zell is a giant piece of poo poo and he owns Tronc so...

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Stutes posted:

Zell might be a piece of poo poo but he hasn't had anything to do with Tribune (broadcasting or publishing) since they emerged from bankruptcy.

Really? I missed that apparently. I maintain his poo poo status regardless. Nuke all billionaires.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Niwrad posted:

Yeah was he up to shady poo poo or just got caught on a tap with Blago and going for the guilt by association thing? I don't remember that time real well.

This is entirely what Rauner is shooting for. Plays to his entire strategy of pitting downstate against Chicago because this ties Pritzker to "the machine".

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

I'll be voting for Biss in the primaries (RIP Ameya's campaign :() but I don't think he has a shot in hell of winning the democratic nomination. The amount of money JB is already spending is astounding.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

vyelkin posted:

The TV ads on the Olympics are getting unbearable, I can't go a single commercial break without getting "BISS IS A PHONY PROGRESSIVE JB PRITZKER IS THE MAN FOR DOWNSTATE I'M DICK DURBIN AND I SUPPORT JB" or (somehow even worse) "IVES IS A MADIGAN CRONY" using a clearly out-of-context clip where Ives criticizes Rauner for blaming everything on Madigan instead of getting anything done.

Only 9 more months to go! :suicide:

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

brugroffil posted:

Anyone have a good breakdown on the AG race?

Been wondering this as well now that the ad blitz has started for the candidates.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Dexo posted:

I tend to vote along with the AFL-CIO, but will probably vote Biss, although it doesn't matter.

But boy his record is sketch, and what happened with Ramirez-Rosa is ehhh

But I'll save my billionaire vote for the general.

This is my take as well. My vote for Biss in the primary is essentially a protest vote against yet another billionaire, but I don't think there's any way in hell that JB doesn't get the nomination.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

And my inherent distrust of the ultra-rich comes through in spades again! If only votes mattered more than campaign contributions we could do something about it. Isn't democracy wonderful?

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Bird in a Blender posted:

I only wish this came out maybe a week ago, to catch more early voters. My gut tells my JB still wins the primary, but I hope not.

I don't think it's any coincidence at all that the Trib was the one to drop this 6 days before the primary. I mean, it's awesome he's getting called the gently caress out, but there's no way this wasn't a calculated move by what has become a right wing soapbox in many ways.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Niwrad posted:

Remember to vote out Berrios.

Seriously. This is like, the one thing I care about on the primary ballot.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Niwrad posted:

Looking good for the ouster of Berrios. Even with Raila getting 20%.

WGN just said Berrios called Kaegi and conceded. gently caress and yes.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

In actual, real life good news that doesn't involve our corrupt former governor, the IL house passed the proposed budget 97-18 after it passed the senate passed it 56-2 yesterday. Broad bipartisan support and I don't see a world in which Rauner won't sign it into law.

We (probably 🤞) got a for realsies budget.

I mean, the state is still hosed long-term, but it's better than it was.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

mastershakeman posted:

I want to see it happen but I do think a ton of the rich assholes would flee to Indiana since it isn't that much further away from the loop than they already live

Silver lining: none of them could run for office that way.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

lmao The Perfect Candidate™ doesn't exist. The logical extrapolation of a two party system is literally picking between the lesser of two evils. No one is ever going to tick all of everyone's boxes. That's how democracy works you clod.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Bird in a Blender posted:

People are dumb and all that, but will people really believe a guy who has never been elected to office is somehow responsible for a tax hike?

100% yes.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

brugroffil posted:

Why not call for an amendment

Because half the state will hear the words "raise taxes" and vote no even though it would actually lower taxes for the vast, vast majority of the populace. 'Taxes' is a word like incest and oval office in the US: the last taboo.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

LLSix posted:

If the Dems have a brain

That is a BIG if, especially in this state.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

withoutclass posted:

I'd rather turbofuck people that got a deal that was too good to be true, blasted tons of overtime to boost their final salaries, and supported the politics of not funding these obligations instead of the state collapsing. It's lovely, but my generation didn't create the problem and I'm not particularly interested in paying for it.

That's not how obligations work though. I don't want to pay my mortgage either, but if I don't, they take my house.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Willa Rogers posted:

JB may be governor, but Madigan's in charge

I'm honestly curious how the political ads are going to look when Madigan finally retires/dies/disappears in a puff of smoke/whatever. Literally every single republican ad I've seen this cycle references him in some way.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

mastershakeman posted:

Npr pundit saying it'll take years to get the votes for recreational weed

Huh? Hasn't every non-binding referendum on the ballots passed with overwhelming support? Am I missing something?

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Oracle posted:

Actual filing can be read here re: Burke. I wouldn’t get my hopes up the guy is slippery as an eel and this isn’t his first set of corruption charges (he’s beaten the rest).

He's only been investigated before, never charged or indicted. The feds don't indict someone if they don't have the case made cold. They have some absurdly high conviction rate.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Niwrad posted:

I get a weekly text spam from Paul Vallas still. Can't unsubscribe from it either.

Amara would probably be my choice right now. Everyone else just seems terrible.

If you text STOP back, it's supposed to remove you from the list. I haven't gotten any since I did that, but I maintain it's still a dick thing to do. I wasn't going to vote for him anyway, but that certainly solidified it in my mind.

e: source

Big Black Dick fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jan 8, 2019

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Also applies to any sort of public money going towards sports stadiums for teams owned by billionaires. You want a new stadium? Write a check. You have 3 commas in your net worth.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

LLSix posted:

Amazing. According to the article it'll be at least 30 years before they could even break even since they didn't just give tax breaks but actual money they had to take out loans for. There's no way that factory will still be running in thirty years.

I especially like the part where they promised to pay to relocate people and then didn't pay people who didn't demand cash up front. Just so they could save a few thousands of dollars on a 750 million budget.

The article doesn't mention anything the council or the mayor gets out of this. Its entirely possible they were so stupid as to sell out their town, break promises they personally made to people they've known all their life, for absolutely nothing. Its breathtaking. I hope the mayor did get a big payout and the reporters just weren't able to find it. That would be easier to understand than such monumental stupidity as to make the deal despite hundreds of people saying it was a bad idea.

It's such a boondoggle, Scott Walker (ex-governor) went from talking it up in campaign speeches to not mentioning it at all due to unpopularity in the span of like a month or two. Literally everyone I know in Wisconsin on both sides of the spectrum think it was an absolutely horrible idea.

My biggest issue is that Wisconsin basically give the Great Lakes Compact the middle finger and is letting Foxconn pump 7 million gallons of water a DAY out of Lake Michigan. gently caress everything about that deal.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

baquerd posted:

It may have hosed the town, but the state probably benefited, no?

Absolutely not. The original projections were that the subsidies would pay off in 2043. That was when the number was $3 billion. It's since increased to over $4 billion which works out to about $315,000 in tax breaks per job created. A Forbes article had this quote:

"Realistically, the payback period for a $100,000 per job deal is not 20 years, not 42 years, but somewhere between hundreds of years and never. At $230,000 or $1 million per job, there is no hope of recapturing the state funds spent from taxes on the company and its workers."

It's an indefensible deal and will be costing Wisconsin taxpayers for decades to come.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

KillerQueen posted:

This is the pettiest possible gripe, but I am extremely annoyed at how every mayoral candidate has had a bot text me in the last week.

e: specifically regarding the Chicago mayoral race, idk how or when other cities and towns downstate do it.

It's not petty, it's annoying as hell and should be opt-in only at the very least.

For what it's worth, if you text 'STOP' back, I think they have to remove you. Seems to have worked with both Vallas and Amara's campaigns for me. Thankfully those are the only that have hit me up.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Poque posted:

Vallas ignored my STOP until I texted "Would you gently caress OFF ALREADY?" and I haven't gotten anything since

I guess I should have specified that this is what I did for Amara's campaign and they removed me.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

I mean, downstate seceding will never happen, but hypothetically if it passed wouldn't the federal government have some say in the matter? Just assuming the country is going to jump to 51 states because of a single state's vote seems more than a little presumptive.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

What's your position on all of the poor people who couldn't take advantage of social services during Rauner's 793-day budget impasse? Were they "better equipped to handle their own personal damage control" even though they weren't sure schools were going to open or couldn't get health care or their university shut down?

Big Black Dick fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Apr 11, 2019

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Pooping* up again.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Thing is, what's the max sentence for something like that even if he's found guilty? They've already paid back what they got on the tax break in full so it's not like the county is down any money.

I'm guessing if anything comes of it, his brother or whoever it is that was managing the property and named on the deed will take the fall. IL gonna IL.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Just do what I do and be a white dude.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

I'm still utterly flabbergasted that he was reelected by such a wide margin while under a federal probe. I can't decide if people genuinely didn't know or didn't care and I hate both answers.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Gerrymandering is one of those things that everyone should be against regardless of political affiliation on the basis of protecting the sanctity of elections, but we're at the point now where whoever is in control will just run it to the ragged edge and grab whatever power they can while the getting is good.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Niwrad posted:

Raising the gas tax to fix roads seems like the most logical tax. It also acts as an incentive to buy more fuel efficient vehicles.

Nope, it's actually nothing more than a socialist money grab from social justice warriors in Springfield. There's clearly no link at all between the gas tax staying the same since 1990 and the sorry state of IL's infrastructure. We'd have been just fine if the commies in Chicago hadn't gotten rid of the road faeries that magically fix everything at night.

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

"Democrat"

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Niwrad posted:

Also I could have swore I read some stuff about how getting rid of it would save a ton of energy costs.

That was originally used as a selling point. The theory was that people would use lights less because they had an extra hour of daylight, but studies have been inconclusive at best about whether that actually works out. Especially at this point when the vast, vast majority of our energy consumption happens independent of daylight. There is literally no compelling reason to keep DST at this point except inertia.

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Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

brugroffil posted:

Daylight savings time owns, get rid of the idiot standard time

Honestly, I don't really care one way or the other which one gets kept. The switching is the stupid part I take issue with.

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