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vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 18, 2017 21:37 |
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It's the classic rural/urban divide only really accentuated because Illinois only has one real city but it's a loving huge and important city, so of course all the conservative rural people are angry that the enormous city is more important and has greater influence than the sparsely-populated and economically-depressed rural regions.
vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 19, 2017 14:18 |
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vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 19, 2017 14:59 |
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TMMadman posted:The I&M Shipping Canal was finished in 1948 (and later the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal which of course reversed the river in 1900) had a major impact on the railroads deciding to connect to Chicago and is a large reason for the population explosion since it also allowed for more than just subsistence farming around the city. Also Chicago got big in the first place because it was the most convenient port where railroads crossing the Mississippi (allowing access to the Western US) met shipping on the Great Lakes.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2017 13:57 |
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As well, an accurate assessment would likely significantly inflate Chicago's overall property value (because the real estate that is undervalued is the really expensive real estate) and justify the city raising a larger sum from property taxation, which would disproportionately be levied on the more expensive real estate compared to current levies. Even though it's a revenue-determined flat tax, the actual enforcement makes it not only regressive in the way a flat tax is, but significantly more regressive than that because of the undervaluing of expensive and overvaluing of inexpensive properties. From the current situation, even moving to an actual flat tax with proper assessment (and subsequently being able to accurately raise the level of taxation to increase revenue) would be a significant improvement.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 16:59 |
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The way I read it is a multi-step process: 1) both the House and the Senate have to approve the same amendment with a 3/5 majority 2) then it appears on the ballot for statewide referendum 3) then one of two things has to happen: either 50% +1 of all voters in the election have to approve it; OR 3/5 of all voters who choose to vote on that question have to approve it (so if only half the voters fill that question out, then you need 3/5s of them. If every voter fills it out, you only need 50% +1). 4) then it becomes a full amendment because the governor can't veto it
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2018 16:37 |
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vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Feb 19, 2018 21:10 |
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Here's a super Chicago story for you:quote:This is a story about how hot dogs and money are made, Chicago-style. https://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/burke-benefits-chicago-style-from-vienna-hot-dog-deals/
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2018 03:01 |
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vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Mar 7, 2018 23:28 |
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I assume he means Biss.
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2018 00:02 |
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Local UFO Enthusiast and Believer in Ghosts Endorses Chris Kennedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jclPo28fY
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2018 04:54 |
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Bird in a Blender posted:At least after today we get a break from political ads, right? Right? Get ready for six straight months of ads about how Pritzker hid his money offshore and therefore anything he ever says about tax reform is hypocritical.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2018 14:47 |
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Sun-Times has called it for Pritzker, unsurprisingly
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2018 02:21 |
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Ego-bot posted:So who was the least lovely choice for the next Democratic governor, Biss? Biss was far from perfect but at least he wasn't a billionaire.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2018 02:25 |
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Rauner-Ives is 52-48 right now, that's a lot closer than I would have predicted
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2018 03:02 |
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withoutclass posted:http://abc7chicago.com/amp/politics/group-pushes-for-state-of-illinois-to-secede-from-chicago/3566099/ Any time downstate wants to secede from Chicago it's basically them saying "we would rather be poorer if it means Democrats aren't in charge."
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2018 13:38 |
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xzzy posted:It's one of those things where you want to let them do it just to demonstrate what a stupid idea it is, but the paperwork to get it done is prohibitive and not worth the eventual smug feeling. The smug feeling is not worth two additional Republican senators.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2018 14:42 |
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mastershakeman posted:I want to see it happen but I do think a ton of the rich assholes would flee to Indiana since it isn't that much further away from the loop than they already live I'm not sure even low taxes could entice rich people to live in Gary, Indiana.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2018 21:03 |
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vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 4, 2018 04:24 |
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esquilax posted:Taxing pension payouts at the same 5% as everyone else is not a solution. $2.6b per year in extra revenue versus $250b in unfunded pension liability. Here I got us 12% of the way there
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2018 20:34 |
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twice burned ice posted:
tbf you should also blame Democratic primary voters for responding to a popular sentiment that we've had enough of this evil multimillionaire governor by saying okay, how would you like this evil billionaire as governor instead?
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2018 14:14 |
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A lot of actual Nazis in actual 1930s Nazi Germany weren't vitriolically anti-Semitic. They didn't vote for the Nazis because the Nazis would kill Jews, they voted for other reasons. But they key thing that made them Nazis was that they just didn't care about Germany's Jews. Vitriolic anti-Semitism and the systematic expulsion of Jews from public life and eventually their extermination wasn't a dealbreaker as long as the parts of the Nazi platform that benefited ethnic Germans got enacted. So they rationally assessed the policies on offer and voted for Hitler. Similarly, rationally assessing the policies on offer and voting for the Republicans because you benefit from some parts of their platform and just don't care about their treatment of women, people of colour, and sexual minorities makes you a horrible person and probably someone who would have fallen in line behind Hitler in 1930s Germany. The Republicans Party of 2018 is full of actual monsters.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 16:13 |
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Remember when MIGF was convinced that Rauner was going to be president
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 14:13 |
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Also despite losing the governor and senate races in Florida, the most important vote there passed and now 1.4 million former felons are re-enfranchised which could make a huge difference in future elections.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 14:44 |
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quote:“Instead I think we’ll focus on what it takes to balance a budget right away,” he said when asked when he’ll introduce a proposal. “We’ve got to work with the legislature and listen to people. Because we’ve got to get 60 percent of the House and the Senate to support a constitutional amendment and then 60 percent of the people of the state to vote for it. And so in order for that to happen we need to make sure that all the ideas are incorporated here. Including the ideas of Republicans.” No you don't you disingenuous motherfucker you have veto-proof supermajorities in the House and Senate, you don't have to do anything Republicans want ever. God damnit.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2018 05:47 |
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brugroffil posted:https://twitter.com/craignewman/status/1060738178699718657 Great, cool, glad to hear that in this situation the governor-elect is talking about how what's really important for him is getting Republican buy-in
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2018 20:33 |
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LLSix posted:Wait, doesn't that imply Rauner likes Pritzker better than he likes Ives? Since he didn't bow out and let her run even though he didn't want to? Billionaires look after each other, so yes.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2018 20:16 |
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vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Dec 22, 2018 15:29 |
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Niwrad posted:If you want to get mad, read through this thread. Its from other people Van Dyke abused on the job who testified at his sentencing. https://twitter.com/agrimm34/status/1086345218297905153 Based on this I now know that the foolproof way to get away with anything as a police officer is to beat someone until they're blind.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2019 20:44 |
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vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Feb 11, 2019 06:46 |
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Orvin posted:Is there a downside to the Chicago area if it were to be split off into its own state? I think the downside comes long-term from there being two more Republican Senators in Washington passing regressive legislation that affects the whole country including Chicago.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2019 17:45 |
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e: never mind, answered elsewhere
vyelkin fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Mar 19, 2019 |
# ¿ Mar 15, 2019 11:51 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:why should it pay for that? because actually the state should pay for all medical procedures including this one.
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2019 06:38 |
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Volkerball posted:what about botox hmm yes botox and gender reassignment surgery, these are comparable medical procedures
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2019 07:43 |
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Dukket posted:-I assume it would have to be approved by congress. It's just downstate saying "we would rather be poorer as long as liberals aren't in charge". That's the pros/cons right there. And it isn't even like this is some uniquely Illinois problem, the division between poor conservative rural areas and rich liberal urban areas is pretty universal across the entire country. The only reason it seems so pronounced in Illinois is because Chicago is such a big city that it completely dominates the rest of the state, and the state lacks any other major urban areas, so the division seems more extreme than elsewhere.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2019 05:17 |
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Zarin posted:This username/post combo is Worth mentioning that in Canada legalization was a federal thing, whereas I'm sure in the US if employers want to keep piss-testing they can just say they're doing it with regards to federal rather than state law.
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# ¿ May 17, 2019 05:52 |
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vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Jun 3, 2019 15:17 |
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vyelkin fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jan 14, 2021 |
# ¿ Jun 30, 2019 23:33 |
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Lyons being "Lions" is up there for me too.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 15:34 |