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Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




no mention of how Daniel Biss looked like the new progressive hero for about 48 hours until the Israel lobby tapped him on the shoulder?

also, this thread needs more discussion of where the dividing line is for whether people support the Cards/Blues or the Cubs/Hawks. (personally I'd argue it's slipping downwards, used to be around Peoria but since the Rivs moved and the Hawks got good it's now more towards Springfield. and even then the hockey team in Springy is trying to rebrand from "Jr. Blues" to avoid offending Hawks fans.)

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Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




considering I live in a market that is already being inundated with IL politics ads despite the fact that a good 2/3rds of the viewing area has no interest in IL politics: are there any challenges for Mike Bost? a guy I used to play HS hockey with ran against him last time and lost, which I didn't like.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




peepeepants posted:

I've been thinking about this regularly since Pritzker ran the Rauner attack ad that stared Ives. Ives winning would be a nightmare but it totally can happen.

and already I've seen about three times an ad that says "THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE ACTION ALERT--UNION LIBERAL JB PRITZKER IS SUPPORTING JEANNIE IVES, WHO WILL WORK WITH MIKE MADIGAN. DON'T SUPPORT MADIGAN. BREAK HIM--VOTE BRUCE RAUNER!" on STL TV.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




xzzy posted:

Wheaton hasn't been dry for a long time. A quick google shows it was repealed in 1985. All their restaurants serve booze.

Not that I'm trying to be the Wheaton Defender, it's a weird conservative holdout.

But I just wanted to get a dig in on Naperville, a place I hate with firey passion.

Naperville: It Could Be Worse, You Could Be In Northbrook

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




dwarf74 posted:

One of his combination burger/shake joints opened up in town here.

Those are some monstrously overpriced burgers, I have to tell you.

he does burgers now? all we get here are the dairy products (which are delicious if on the spendy side)

also the STL media market is somehow...not getting nearly as many Rauner/Pritzker ads as I thought, but that may be because we've got both a competitive Senate election here where the GOP thinks they smell blood but the Dems think they can keep the anti-Greitens momentum going, plus Prop A (if you or someone you know lives in MO, tell them to vote No and spread the word).

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




TMMadman posted:

Nope, New Buffalo has already banned recreational sales according to this map/site: https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/01/marijuana-businesses-banned-in-more-than-250-michigan-communities.html

But I'm guessing some community between New Buffalo and Benton Harbor won't be idiots. Especially some of the little communities around the Warren Dunes State Park.

similarly, I could see East St Louis jumping in head-first into legal pot, and if sports-betting comes to IL first they'll do that too. (though their problems run deep and they also have the acute issue of being on the IL side of the STL metro)

also the ISP is just bad to begin with, as anyone who has ever driven 55 from Missouri knows. you go from 70 or 55 in MO (where the MHP easily gives you the "gentlemen's speed limit" of 10-15 over, and won't care about your driving as long as you're keeping up with other traffic and not being a dick) to IL where there's ISP crusiers every 10 miles and you better not go a shade over that limit. at least it's not a 65 MPH limit anymore, which really got us with Missouri plates.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Oracle posted:

Here ya go.





there was a line 1/4 of a mile long outside the one (1) dispensary in the Metro East. people here in the STL metro are not happy with this situation (that, and having seen the prices I'd agree with people who are saying it's a rip-off there, as they're 1.5x to 2x Denver prices even before state/local taxes.)

also MO is going to have medicinal later this year and there's a groundswell effort to put rec on the ballot in 2020. it might well succeed despite the Ozarks Mafia that runs this state being against it because they can't get a cut of it, like how they're getting a cut of the illegal gas station slot machines that are popping up all over the place here.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Dexo posted:

I mean that poo poo was never gonna happen, you had to have 500k liquid to even get a license.

Also whoo boy I can't say much but what I'll say is the application and approval process on the back end is lets say very inefficient.

yeah, apparently a couple other 618 area places have applied for licenses but their applications have been “delayed”, one in Sauget and another in East Alton. apparently the one open dispensary is wanting to add a second location in Fairview Heights (they’re in Collinsville) and again that’s delayed.

once the other licenses open up you’ll see a lot of people actually wanting to go to East St Louis for reasons.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




TowerofOil posted:

Well monday I officially have to go back to work as I'm out of vacation I can take. The list of essential business is lax enough that my job will never except its non essential.

Why yes I do live in southern Illinois and even worse I work in Missouri.

thankfully all the STL-area governments took action pretty quickly, even St Charles County got their asses in gear. wish I could say the same about our unelected governor but he's lost a lot of popularity after faffing about with issuing a stay-home order.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




https://twitter.com/RiverfrontTimes/status/1247550283611140096?s=20
also I can tell you from experience that she could have been at a much, MUCH better bar

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




mastershakeman posted:

Was she at that road house in Alton with the 50 cent food and dollar drinks because that place rules

you're talking about Fast Eddie's, and no, it's too big of an institution in the STL metro to get caught doing stupid poo poo like this. she was at some mediocre place called Hiram's.

(and you're right, Fast Eddie's is amazing. whenever I go referee hockey over at the Alton rink i'll make a stop there, and i've even filed suspension reports from the bar while waiting on my Hot Chick on a Stick.)

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Badger of Basra posted:

I think the main issue is the governors of those places are morons

yeah, Parson's a twat who only listens to people in the 417 area code

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Niwrad posted:

Yeah it's a bad move by JB.

Does anyone know what's up with IDES and contract workers yet? My girlfriend hasn't been able to work since the state shutdown due to her job being in events. I heard they were building a site for contract workers at some point but not if it went through or there was some other way of collecting.

apparently they said it would be on-line in May, because they decided to work with Deloitte instead of, you know, doing things themselves.

it seems weird saying that Missouri is doing things better than Illinois, but they've had their PUA system operational for a couple weeks now and apart from occasional delays in payment it's working fine. both myself and my father (I qualify because I officiate sports and thus get paid as a 1099 worker, while my dad's technically self-employed) have signed up and gotten approved fairly quickly.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




https://twitter.com/stltoday/status/1260374334448848897?s=20

let's see how this goes, especially since they're right across the river from St Louis where things are opening up on Friday (or have been open for a few days already, if you're in St Charles County)

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




KDdidit posted:

Menards is my go -to snack food and drinks store, their prices are great.

when Menards first expanded to the STL metro i went to see what their prices and selection were like compared to Lowe's/Home Depot, and was stunned by them having a large and decent selection of food products not 10 yards away from the paint department. it's glorious.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Bird in a Blender posted:

No dancing? What is this, Footloose? Yea, that is barely any sort of mitigation plan.

the mitigation plan over the river in St Louis is "shut down adult softball and soccer leagues", it's scattershot I agree

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




being able to get Illinois political ads in the STL market, all the ads about the tax amendment call it the TAX HIKE AMENDMENT, say it'll raise taxes on small farmers so Mike Madigan can line his pockets, and have the message "we're taxed enough already in Illinois as it is, why hike taxes even more"

that and the endless Rodney Davis vs Betsey Dirksen Londrigan ads. which is interesting because most of the 618 is represented by Mike Bost, and I've hardly seen any ads for him or his opponent.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Looks like some good publicity for Southern Illinois.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-m...SkIdrSuUdoC8dY8

if IL ends up losing a seat, it'll likely be hers, if only to create a unified Metro East seat (currently it's split between hers, Rodney Davis' which has bits of Glen Carbon/Edwardsville/Alton in it, and Mike Bost's which has all of St Clair County)

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Niwrad posted:

Forcing people to register in-person to do online sports betting is such a dumb and corrupt move that only Illinois could think of it.

It’s especially funnier considering the two market leaders in sports betting had their in-person registrations, for quite some time, well outside of Chicago

(FanDuel partnered with Par-A-Dice in Peoria while DraftKings bought a stake in the Casino Queen in ESTL)

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013





yeah, here in STL a North City alderman has loudly bragged about how he is not getting vaccinated due to "religious reasons". would anyone care to guess what religion he adheres to?

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Bizarro Kanyon posted:

It had better be Jehovah’s Witnesses or I am calling bullshit.

well, you can call bullshit
https://twitter.com/JohnMuhammadJr/status/1426695558564126724?s=20

Troy Queef fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Aug 22, 2021

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Welcome to my district! The question now is “Who wins in a crazy off between Bost and Miller?” You may get rid of him but the replacement is worse.

Bost mostly won because he promised to keep the Granite City steel mill running, and now that retrenchment is happening there he may be on thin ice no matter what. (He took over what was a fairly Dem district long represented by Jerry Costello, old-school St Clair County pol.)

I’m mostly impressed at how the map managed to keep only the most Dem parts of the northern Metro East in the same district. God help you if you, like a friend of mine, live in Godfrey yet work with unions in Alton.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1489240468575510539?s=20&t=nRBWl_G1QspXjohRB_bT9Q while Marie Newman has the correct positions on I/P, man she is an idiot otherwise

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Djarum posted:

Not really. Lori has no political allies at all from what I have been able to tell. She doesn’t even have the good sense to realize that she isn’t going to even make it out of the primary for re-election. She is going to be radioactive in terms of politics going forward.

She’ll likely go back into law and perhaps get some corporate board seats since the first black lesbian mayor of Chicago is a nice check mark for certain companies. She’ll be a footnote of lesser importance than Jane Byrne, Eugene Sawyer and Michael Bilandic.

Jane Byrne allowed The Blues Brothers to be shot in Chicago, and for that alone she did a much better job as mayor than Lightfoot ever did

And as to your previous point about the Dems basically abandoning certain states: this is a choice, as they see the New South (NC, GA, FL, and their white whale of TX) as a better place to campaign due to a number of factors. Couple that with general Midwestern alienation that has grown over the past few decades and you get the situation where Josh Mandel and Eric Greitens, two absolute shitbags, are leading in Midwestern GOP primaries.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Bizarro Kanyon posted:

The one along i70 with the orange paintballs? Every time I see that, it brings some warmth to my heart.

that's probably it. I've had to drive 70 from STL to Indy/C'bus a couple times this year and every time I've passed it I've said "well, huh" to myself.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




brugroffil posted:

Isn't SIU slowly shifting their focus to Edwardsville over Carbondale?

Yes, mostly because SIUE is now the bigger campus in terms of student numbers. They really were aggressive in recruiting students from neighboring states, getting MO-side kids interested, keeping kids from Belleville and O’Fallon to stay home, etc.

(It’s also affected the housing market in Eds quite a bit, which sucks if you, like me, are an STL person wanting to move to the 618 for reasons, and some of the rental stuff you see in Alton or Granite City is…let’s just say it’s very dated.)

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




The X-man cometh posted:

Were there a lot of people moving from Missouri before the Supreme Court cases? Are more people expected to move now?

There’s been a fair bit of talk on various STL forums (Reddit, Twitter, etc) of people wanting to move to Madison or St Clair counties after Dobbs, and especially among marginalized groups seeing the prevailing political winds in MO. Chief beneficiaries would be Edwardsville, Alton, Belleville and maybe FVH.

Problem is that the 618’s more developed and “nicer” areas are much further from popular parts of STL (Tower Grove, CWE, Dogtown/Forest Park, Maplewood, Webster/Kirkwood, etc) than you’d think, the rental stock being much less developed compared to parts of STL, distrust of IL state government that (among people who want to move) comes from how much East STL has been ignored, and a perceived lack of amenities in the 618.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Ringo Star Get posted:

I don't get the Epoch Times, just endless Shen Yun advertisements.

I swear that they keep multiple billboard operators in business

(the rest of their income comes from personal-injury attorneys)

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Rod Hoofhearted posted:

"He's a farmer. And he knows what's it's like to work. Because he's a farmer, and he knows what it's like to work."

:wtf:

I heard that ad the other day (during a college football game on STL radio, and NO, friend, it was not the Illini game—it was Mizzou, and most of the Mizzou support in the 618 intentionally moved there due to MO’s political situation). Puzzling, to put it lightly, especially in assuming everyone in IL gets ABC 7.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Geshtal posted:

And a week and a half later they’d be bitching about all their taxes going to St. Louis.

and ironically there’s been some people here in STL wanting to secede from MO and join IL ideally!

(We’d still be ignored by state government, but we would be in a state that fits our profile)

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




xzzy posted:

How lovely are things in Missouri that STL wants to join up with east St Louis?

Honestly it would help ESTL because a lot of the people and interests that want to help it cannot do so as much now because they’re all on the 314 side of the river.

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Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




https://twitter.com/NickHausenWx/status/1653095543977959434?s=20
I just drove this stretch last weekend. Reportedly the combination of northeasterly winds and plowing/planting season on the farm led to this.

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