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Welcome to Illinois! We're more than just Chicago! We have corn (#2 producer behind Iowa in 2016)  soybeans (#1 in 2016, #1 or #2 producer last five years running BITCHES! Yeah maybe our sports teams suck but our farmers BRING IT),  corrupt politicians, (click link for fuller but still not complete list, pics are just the most recent and/or famous ones)    a budget problem that makes moving to a hurricane-ravaged hellhole like Texas a consideration, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDAgZREprNY quote:Despite the $36 billion budget getting pushed through, Illinois remains in a financial mess following decades of mismanagement and the recent budget fight. The state has racked up $15 billion of unpaid bills and owes a quarter-trillion dollars in pensions to state workers when they retire. well okay, fine, Chicago.  quote:Monday, Aug 14, 2017 So 2018 is a midterm election year and you know what that means! GOVERNOR'S RACE! Rauner is, of course, running for reelection, never having heard the phrase 'quit while you're behind'  He is being challenged by a slate of Democrats, from the billionaires who saw his and Trump's meteoric rise to success and thought 'more money than any human being has any right to isn't enough, I wanna be moving those levers of power too' (Pritzker, yes THAT Pritzker, R.) to billionaires who are also members of political family dynasties because that worked out so well in 2016 (Kennedy, L.)  to Chicago Aldermen with an American dream story and a downstate running mate  to typical Illinois politicians who think they have reasonable policy positions and experience who were also runners up in a John Kerry lookalike contest (IL State Sen Daniel Biss   and a whole bunch of other people you've never heard of and perennial also-rans. With Lisa Madigan stepping down after winning five consecutive terms, the Attorney General race is going to be interesting. On the Republican side, former beauty queen (Miss America 2003), pro-abstinence anti-gay marriage Congressional seat also-ran Harvard Law-educated Erika Harold is running. She's African-American, losers! Ergo Republicans can't be racist you're the real racist. On the Dem side at least
Now usually the General Assembly is pretty drat non-competitive but this year, oh this year, boys and girls, in this Our Weirdest Timeline, you're in for a potential treat, because a relative shitton of IL pols are deciding to hell with this hyper-partisan bullshit and retiring. quote:At least a dozen spots in the Illinois General Assembly will change hands in the upcoming election. 13 legislators are choosing to give up their seats (as of Aug 7th). Political analyst Linda Baker with the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute said we may even see more. This doesn't mention the whole very unpopular tax hike Republicans are gonna have hung around their necks/attempt to hang around Dem necks. Illinoisans are very pissed off and looking for someone to blame. And that doesn't even get into all the U.S. House seats up for grabs! (more on these later)  SO LET THE GAMES BEGIN, AND MAY THE ODDS BE EVER IN YOUR FAVOR (also register your dumb rear end to vote, especially if you just moved) Oracle fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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Heath posted:Why does that last map place Peoria outside of Peoria county? Like East Peoria, which is in fact not in Peoria county Go yell at Wikipedia man, Rauner don't pay me enough to care.
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Sep 18, 2017 22:34
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dwarf74 posted:There's islands of blue and purple - Peoria, Champaign-Urbana, Bloomington-Normal, Carbondale, Quad Cities - basically all the mid-size cities and university towns. But most of downstate is both rural and Republican. It's like an extension of Iowa. I've lived in both areas of the state and while in Chicago noone spared a thought for anyone downstate. South of I-80 might as well not have existed. Most of their ire/dumping was reserved for suburbanites who dared claim they were actually from Chicago when they were from like, Schaumburg. Downstate Christ, its like a jealous ex who moved back home and constantly keeps tabs on what could have been, exulting in every problem and setback and grumbling about every success and how it'll personally cost them.
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Sep 19, 2017 15:06
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Monkey Fracas posted:Starved Rock is cool- go down there once a couple times a year at least. xzzy posted:Unfortunately it's the closest hiking location to Chicagoland, and in the summer it attracts some pretty unbearable crowds.
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Sep 19, 2017 17:29
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dwarf74 posted:It's neither? It's north-central, smack in the middle between Quad Cities-Chicago and Rockford-Bloomington. It's only "west" relative to Chicago, and South relative to ... well, techncially it's south of I-80 by a mile or two, I guess? It's not even as far south as Kankakee. Relative to Chicago is the only relation that matters in Illinois, friend, have you not been reading the thread?
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Sep 19, 2017 18:48
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Turns out politics costs money, whodathunk. Gonna be Biss or Kennedy. Included resignation announcement: quote:Today, I am ending my campaign for Governor. Briefly, I want to explain why: we simply don’t have the money to meaningfully scale this campaign statewide. Without more resources, the only choices for expanding the campaign to a scope that could earn the nomination were to take on more personal debt or to cut staff. I have a young family, and we decided not to take on more personal debt right now. As to cutting staff, I simply refuse. We raised $828k from 2,526 donors; that is amazing. But as you know, the race for Illinois governor will set a record as the costliest race in American history. For democracy’s sake, I hope we see this as a troubling trend. My donors did the best they could, I’m the one who came up short, but I am not ashamed. Just know that while we didn’t have the most money, we have the volunteers (3,200), the signatures (10,000), and the right message. I’m sorry for the people who have stood with me that I don’t have the extraordinary wealth or extraordinarily wealthy connections to make up the difference.
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Oct 12, 2017 16:39
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So today is the opening day for submitting signatures to get on the March 2018 primary ballot.quote:The candidate filing period ends Dec. 4. Candidates for statewide office must submit at least 5,000 valid signatures; people seeking to challenge the validity of a candidate's petitions have until Dec. 11 to file an objection that would be considered before the ballot is finalized. quote:Under Illinois law, a candidate who makes a proper filing will be on the ballot unless he or she is challenged, and that challenge is sustained by an electoral board. A "proper filing" is really nothing more than a Statement of Candidacy, though. Other paperwork could be missing, and there could be far fewer signatures than necessary. This is how that strangest of loopholes comes in - if you file only your own signature, but nobody challenges your paperwork, you're on the ballot! What this means is if you live in a district where some scumbag has applied to be on the ballot, you can officially challenge and get him thrown off if it turns out his/her paperwork isn't correctly filed or they don't have the proper amount of signatures or not enough of those signatures are deemed 'valid.' This is the unofficial political sport of Illinois and any experienced pol worth the name is really loving good at it (or at least their bevy of lawyers are). This may well happen to Rauner's far-right challenger.. Want to see who's filed already? Check here.
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Nov 27, 2017 18:49
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mastershakeman posted:Yeah this is a big setup which is always funny. Chuy probably got the heads up from Gutierrez to be ready to get signatures, and in exchange Chuy stays out of Rahm's way (since Gutierrez is a Rahm ally).
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Nov 28, 2017 17:27
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Niwrad posted:He wouldn't stand a chance in the rust belt. I think he'd be fine doing the activist stuff nationally. Would be a great voice in parts of the country you talk about that are purple and have large Hispanic populations. Can you elaborate? I could google but 'scummy Chicago politics' gives you a bazillion hits so, you know.
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Nov 30, 2017 16:00
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Primary election is coming up (March 20) and there are some changes this year, mostly involving same-day registration and no-excuses early voting (starting Feb 8th til March 19) and 'grace period' registration and early voting (Feb. 21-Mar 20). Basically you can register at any time but you have to vote immediately after you register if you choose to do either grace period or same day registration. That means no registering then going to check out the candidates websites then voting you have to do it all at once. It is strongly encouraged that you print out your local sample ballot and research the candidates for public office. Yes including the local judges up for retention and the county executive and county board and dogcatcher and whatever. Everybody's got to start somewhere and if you weed out the assholes before they molt you end up with a lot less Ted Cruzes. You can find a sample ballot at your local county clerk's website (or check ballotpedia for info on races etc). There is a candidate debate for the governor's race coming up TOMORROW Tues Jan 23 from 6-7 if you're interested in getting a head start. Check your local public tv and/or radio stations for coverage. Oracle fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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Jan 23, 2018 07:16
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Bird in a Blender posted:I think Kennedy is targeting the African American community. He talks about gun violence a lot, and that is obviously a pretty big issue. Possibly a smart move, try to get most of the AA vote, and hope that Pritzker and Biss split the white vote. I can't tell if anyone is specifically courting the Latinx vote though. He talks about gun violence a lot because HIS DAD AND UNCLE WERE ASSASSINATED. His running mate's son was also shot and killed. C'mon people. Which reminds me I don't think anyone posted this tone-deaf exchange that led to him leaving the stage at a debate. quote:Gubernatorial candidate Chris Kennedy left the stage during a forum on Monday after Republican State Rep. Jeanne Ives argued the solution to gun violence in Illinois was having “more fathers in the home.”
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Jan 24, 2018 17:25
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Oh yeah just to be thorough, here's the whole debate schedule for the Dems:quote:While the schedules differ slightly, both Kennedy, a businessman and son of Robert F. Kennedy, and Pritzker, a billionaire philanthropist and entrepreneur, plan to participate in the following six debates and forums:
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Jan 24, 2018 18:08
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Man_of_Teflon posted:if you want to count the total debt, it went up by 17b in rauner's first year and probably more each of the later years And wasn't the 240B number cooked up from presuming that everything would stay exactly as-is over the next 20 years? I seem to recall something along those lines and the reality was more like 10B fully funded. Edit, yeah a lot of the 240B number is from late payment charges. quote:In fiscal 2016 alone, the state obligation to TRS and the other four employee pension funds it maintained was $6.8 billion, an amount so large it consumed more than 26 percent of the day-to-day operations budget of Illinois government, according to Ralph Martire, executive director of the Center for Tax and Budget Accountability. Oracle fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 24, 2018 |
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Jan 24, 2018 21:28
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Volkerball posted:CNN's figure was 251. No corrections. Yet the Illinois Dept of Insurance says its $185 billion. quote:The Illinois Department of Insurance released its two-year report on every public pension in the state. From 2015 to 2016, Illinois' 671 pension funds added $17 billion in additional unfunded liabilities, bringing it up to $185 billion. quote:Illinois has outstanding debt of about $32 billion, of which 82% is general obligation.
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Jan 24, 2018 21:47
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Pretty sure our lovely regressive income tax is written into the State Constitution so it’ll require an amendment to institute a progressive income tax. Edit: yep quote:To amend the Constitution to allow for a graduated income tax, three-fifths of the members in both chambers of the General Assembly must vote in favor of an amendment by May 6, 2016. There are currently two amendments up for consideration that would allow for a graduated income tax — one in the House and one in the Senate.
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Jan 25, 2018 07:24
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Fantastic Flyer posted:A progressive tax rate will require voter approval? Yeah, that poo poo's never getting passed. We could always have another Constitutional Convention! Edit: Actually if I'm reading that right EITHER 3/5ths of the assembly has to pass it OR a public majority has to vote in favor of it, but only the Assembly vote can't be overidden by the governor? Gah, its complicated, read the article. A constitutional convention could probably also fix the pension thing by capping payouts to those making 100K a year or higher. Right now a LOT of money is going to 4% of pension collectors. Its in one of the articles I linked above. Oracle fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Jan 25, 2018 15:56
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dwarf74 posted:On and off I hear about the abortion thing, but my sense in Republicanland is that nobody is really that upset at Rauner, save activists. Pretty much this. If she wins its a Dem lock unless they do something terminally stupid like Madigan throws his hat in the race or someone turns up in a dead girl/live boy situation.
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Jan 30, 2018 21:55
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Devo posted:Is there any semi-unbiased source for information on congressional primary candidates? Specifically district 13 since that's where I'm at and Rodney Davis is a twat and I'd really like to elect someone who can beat him. Hey Devo. Here's Ballotpedia's entry on the various candidates Article on the recently-held Dem candidate forum from WILL Public Radio Here's a story about Jon Ebel. He favors moving towards single payer healthcare and more funding for college, former Navy Intelligence, Religion professor from UIUC, relatively unknown, white male. Wants to move back towards 'bipartisanship.' Has 75k on hand as of this article, $206,000 total to date as of Feb. 3rd Angel Sides is a dark horse candidate, substitute teacher and campaign volunteer (Sanders, Durbin, etc) running from Springfield. Very liberal, no political experience. Popped up out of nowhere at the Dec. filing. Hasn't raised enough to bother filing anything as of Feb. 3rd. Erik Jones is a lawyer from Edwardsville. One of the two favored to win. Jones is a former policy director and assistant attorney general for the Illinois Attorney General's Office. He also served as counsel to the House Committee on Energy & Commerce and Oversight & Government Reform. He also worked in the Senate, serving as deputy general counsel and chief investigative counsel for the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce. Endorsed by the League of Conservation Voters. Raised $353,000 total as of Feb. 3rd. Favors a Medicare for all kind of buy-in. Perennial also-ran David Gill, a doctor from Champaign. Mostly healthcare focused. Smart enough, says the right things but this'll be his sixth loving time challenging for this seat, give it a rest, dude, the people have spoken and they say 'meh.' (He did come within 1000 votes in 2012 and blamed an independent liberal candidate for his loss then). Raised $70,000 so far but only has a few thousand in the bank as of Feb. 3rd. Repeal and replace Obamacare with nationalized health care proponent. Betsy Dirksen Londrigan is the establishment Dem choice and the other favorite. She was a fundraiser for Dick Durbin and her experience here shows in her numbers. Declines to come right out and support single-payer, wishy washy on 2nd amendment, etc etc. Endorsed by Emily's List and Dick Durbin if that means anything to you. Only distantly related to Everett Dirksen the Republican House member from the 60s who the courthouse in IL and Dirksen Bldg in DC are named after. Raised $237,740 as of Feb. 3rd I'm personally leaning towards Erik Jones in this one, mostly because Londrigan leaves a bad taste in my mouth (typical Illinois politics bullshit) and the others feel like vanity campaigns (as tempting as Ebel's platform is). Also having an experienced investigative attorney on hand on the Dem side with upcoming investigations into Republican malfeasance will definitely come in handy. brugroffil posted:That doesn't seem extremely shady at all
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Feb 8, 2018 17:34
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A crooked billionaire? Say it ain’t so. Yeah I’m coming down on the Biss train. He’ll drop his dumb tax and come around on legalizing pot and taxing the poo poo out of it and if he’s smart send all the proceeds to paying off all the pension and debt obligations. Who’s everyone want for AG? I’m leaning towards Renato but that’s just because I appreciate his ability to explain complicated legal poo poo in a way I can understand without making me feel dumb (his twitters a pro follow FYI).
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Feb 9, 2018 01:20
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And Pritzker's even shelling out extra money so you can't skip his drat ads. C'mon dude my kid just wants to watch loving funny youtube videos at bedtime, stop interrupting my family time.
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Feb 20, 2018 02:12
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More Dem governor's nom race news. You can watch the last Dem governor candidate's debate on youtube. 1:22 (from end of Jan) Pritzker refused to be on March 5th's downstate-located debate because he's already agreed to six which has led to WCIA 3 (E. Central Illinois tv station) to cancel it. A Feb. 21st debate at UIS will be broadcast live on the radio but not on television. Pritzker will attend that one. This means no televised live debates outside of Chicago area for the first time in... a while. Not a great look for Pritzker.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:29
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Dexo posted:I've used Google Music since the start. Oh yeah. OOH yeah. Pritzker has enough money to make them unskippable too. Hell I've gotten ads on my GODDAMN PHONE playing games for politicians.
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Feb 27, 2018 19:36
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Hey y’all the 21st (Illinois public radio show about politics) interviewed everyone running for governor (except Rainer who wouldn’t return their calls for some reason heh) and put them and bios etc up on their webpage if you want to hear from the candidates in their own words: https://will.illinois.edu/21stshow/program/our-interviews-with-seven-of-the-candidates-for-illinois-governor Also you should really be listening to the 21st if you want to really be informed on what’s up in Springfield.
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Mar 10, 2018 03:19
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DalaranJ posted:How often do they do political segments? I’m not sure I could keep up with a daily, I mostly just listen to State Week. State Week is also good and there's a lot of overlap (I think half the hosts are the same). It seems like every show has some mention of something or other going on political-wise. You can check out their webpage for synopsis of shows if you're real hard up for time. They play during the lunch hour near me so its fairly easy to have it on in the car on background or whatever. Speaking of which, they also did a series of interviews with the Atty Gen candidates.
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Mar 11, 2018 07:43
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Niwrad posted:I just got SMS spammed from JB Pritzker. Not sure if it's automated or just campaign workers sending them out and responding. No idea how they got my number. Did you donate to any Democrats in the last 10 years? If so that's how.
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Mar 12, 2018 23:03
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Nail Rat posted:Looks like that progressive tax may be finally coming...but it hits middle and even a lot of low income earners hard. Sorry if this has been talked about here already but a year after a big tax hike, and right after the SALT limits were imposed, this...this is something. 6.25%. But it looks like its gonna die in committee hasn't moved since 2/14. And yeah like every other attempt at this it'll be unconstitutional. So sayeth the Illinois Constitution: quote:SECTION 3. LIMITATIONS ON INCOME TAXATION
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Mar 12, 2018 23:09
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Big Black Dick posted:I don't think it's any coincidence at all that the Trib was the one to drop this 6 days before the primary. I mean, it's awesome he's getting called the gently caress out, but there's no way this wasn't a calculated move by what has become a right wing soapbox in many ways. 'Become' would insinuate they weren't always a right-wing rag.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:10
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Bird in a Blender posted:Kass I think is strictly op-ed, but he gets a prominent position. He's on page 2, where the rest of the op-eds are back on like page 10 or something. Yeah Kass is one of those 'lifestyle' columnist types. He's got ins with the cops and the pols and has covered local politics for years (he joined the Trib in 1980) so he has a lot of insider news on it but he's typical Repub. The reporting at the Tribune is solid but the Op-Ed and columnists are all rock-ribbed Repubs as are the owners.
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Mar 15, 2018 00:31
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Jesus gently caress money really does buy anything in this country.
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Mar 18, 2018 19:55
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Lager posted:I didn't see that at my location (also 18th) but it was straight up empty in there. Interested to see what the turnout numbers were like today, been hearing lower than anticipated. My polling place is in a very Republican area and I was only voter 56 by lunch. So yeah I'd say it was low.
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Mar 21, 2018 01:54
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Berrios is down 35% to 43% with 5% in. I'm watching the Chicago Sun-Times livefeed here: https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/illinois-primary-election-2018-results-analysis-live-updates/
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Mar 21, 2018 01:59
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43% Pritzker 30% Biss 25% Kennedy with 22% in, Biss in second, that's better than expected. 5th district 55 precincts reporting. Lamont Robinson leads 39-28% Ken Duncan's at 18% Just over half reporting. Open seat; used to be Pritzker's lt. gov's. Rauner 53% Ives 47% with 8% reporting, wow that's closer than it should be. Pritzker 44% Biss and Kennedy tied at 27% with 8% in. 42 of 72 precincts reporting Erin Ortiz 53% is ahead of Dan Burke (brother of Ed Burke this is gonna be an upset if it happens) Looks like its between Quinn and Raoul, Raoul's currently leading for atty gen 29-25%. Fairley 13% Rotering 12% On the Rep side Erika Harold's walking away with it with 63% of the vote. Oracle fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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Mar 21, 2018 02:02
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Well aside for a few upsets looks like establishment Dems ran the table. On the plus side Dem turnout was really darn high and republican turnout low, Rauner got a serious vote of no-confidence, and while I don't see anyone being all that hung ho to volunteer for Pritzker he'll infuse a bunch a money into the state hiring election workers so at least people gonna get paid and I haven't heard a peep from anyone about staying home on Election Day.
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Mar 21, 2018 05:04
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Hand Row posted:What are you doing where you still view commercials? Not paying for Youtube Red (Pritzker was all over Youtube the past month or so)
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Mar 22, 2018 15:03
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*sigh* Good. I guess. Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll turn out to be another Mark Dayton or something.
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Apr 25, 2018 23:15
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Willa Rogers posted:I don't know if it would qualify as "dirty tricks" but Obama used some pretty specious petition challenges in his first IL senate race: That's loving classic Illinois politics. Like Underhanded Yet Legal poo poo 101. There's even a name for it: Challenge Season There's also the fun when your own party tells you to take a seat and wait your turn/let someone else run. E.g. 'you show us you can raise 250K out of your contacts list and we'll think about supporting you, otherwise you get 0 help from the party (no cash, no voter lists, no polls nothing), local media ignores your campaign, and we endorse your challenger and give them money and point the media in their direction while telling you we'll remain impartial.' ANYTHING in their past is fair game. Dig up that background they oh so painstakingly wrote and have one of their exes show up with a love child (great if they're married) or accusations of infidelity or sexual harassment or drinking/drug problems or racism/sexism/ableism etc etc. (when he was 12 all he would do is call people fags on XBox Live it was like every other word out of his mouth. Do we really want a homophobe like that in office?) If he's clean, focus on his wife/kids/parents/siblings. Anything that could be made to look shady whether it is or not. Win the lottery? Fraud and connections in the Lottery Commission. Make a good real estate investment? Obviously pulling strings somewhere or owe someone a favor in return. Have deep-pocketed supporters show up and offer to help fund their campaign only to later prove problematic for any/all of the above reasons (this guy is crooked as they come and is obviously trying to buy Candidate X; look how much money he/she has donated! Tell me there's no quid pro quo there!) Bonus points if you have said rich/powerful patrons offer to call in favors/bend the rules to help them out and they agree and then it comes to light. My personal favorite - voter suppression. Chicago wrote the book on this poo poo. From bricks through storefront windows with signs in them showing support for the wrong candidate to robocalling all your election judges and telling them they have to have more training to do their jobs on election day or not bother showing up so lines stretch out the door and people give up and go home to having your polling place in the basement of people's houses there's so much to choose from.
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Apr 28, 2018 06:37
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Soonmot posted:Mining the background is something I'm already up on. Plus, they're a werewolf, so it's going to be tough keeping that under wraps! El-Oh-El hope they enjoy frenzying when lied about and insulted constantly and ripping the Veil apart on live tv during a debate. This is what kinfolk're for dipshit.
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Apr 28, 2018 21:52
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So Ameya Pawar has been busy since he stepped down from running for governor. One Illinois just went live.quote:Shadowy political operatives dealing in disingenuous news create divisions by race, class, and geography. They declare that taxes are inherently evil at the same time they suggest the state is too debt-ridden to take care of its own people.
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Apr 30, 2018 16:52
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I mean at least Millennials would have a candidate that embodies their attitude toward the current political climate. In the current political climate a werewolf shredding the Veil (and his.her opponent) on live tv would probably win in a landslide for coming out, wing honest about who and what they are, and killing a politician. Plus the ratings man, the ratings!
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pseudosavior posted:Sometimes, the politics don't even matter, some people just won't vote for minorities. This is a good point. Is it a white werewolf we're talking about here?
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