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LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.
Being serious? 10 years? I've written and recorded my first album over the course of this year, and I'm waiting on the producer/engineer/whatever to finish mixing it. It'll be pretty good. Well that's my story.

e: Why don't you tell us more about your album(s) first. It sounds like you've put a lot of work into your music.

LargeHadron fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Sep 20, 2017

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LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.
Nice, that's really cool. Has a bit of a Mike Patton vibe (sort of). Somewhat off-topic, but how'd you get the YouTube image to look that way (small cover art, big cover art in the background, song/album titles)? I see albums like that fairly often and I don't know how it's done.

LargeHadron fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Oct 30, 2017

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

The Science Goy posted:

Our album/EP (over 40 minutes so it's kind of an album?) was released a few minutes ago! Spotify link

Nice - solid sound and good production

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

For real OP, how did you get the YouTube video image to look that way? Did you have to create the still image in Photoshop and then do some MovieMaker BS to play audio over it? I ask because I've seen a lot of audio-only videos that look the same way, and I figured there must be a service that lets you upload album art and metadata then creates the video for you. At least I'm hoping there is.

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

silencekit posted:

If you make a DistroKid account, they will put all your albums on YouTube for you. There's a few different paid models. I think my band pays something like $30 a year for DistroKid to put all our music on YouTube, Spotify, iTunes, Amazon, etc.

Thanks. That sounds like a cool service. Would you recommend it?

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

ricecult posted:

I just finished recording this psychedelic electronic/acoustic album, I'd definitely be interested in hearing opinions. The other producer and myself tried a lot of different recording/mixing techniques, lots of analog gear.

I'm currently working on another album that is entirely instrumental and more electronic/synth based. It's fun to make something that's entirely different than anything you've made before.

I listened to the whole thing, which means I did better than like 99% of the people who liked it and offered a quick "congrats!" when you posted it on Facebook. Sorry, am I projecting a bit? It's a solid album. I like the general sound of the music as well as the production quality. Onto critiques...

It's hard to critique an album after the first listen, so most of what I'm saying is probably more of knee-jerk reactions than well thought-out constructive criticism. The most memorable and possibly my favorite track was "Birthcake". There was a lot of good ugliness to that one that was only hinted at in other tracks. However, in the context of the album I would say that the successive instrumental tracks "Hurricane Season" and "Birthcake" are the lowest point of the album as a whole. It's weird IMO to put the only two instrumental tracks back-to-back like that, in the middle of the album. I could see an argument that they're meant to provide a kind of interlude between the two meatier "halves" of the album, but it doesn't come off that way to me. I don't get a sense of dramatic arc that would justify a lengthy interlude - sorry I can't elaborate more on that without listening more.

Another thought I had was that I didn't get a great sense of unity to the album - like there isn't something I can point to and think "that's the way this sounds". Not necessarily a problem, of course, more just an observation. If I heard another song by you that wasn't on this album, I doubt I'd recognize it's you. Some albums just take longer (or more attention from the listener) to stick - this might be one of those, for me.

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

ricecult posted:

Seriously wondering who this is from my tiny facebook world...

Yeah, I hear that, tracklisting had a lot of thought go into it, but ultimately you're right, the album doesn't have one "sound" you can point to, but was a little bit of the point of it (the name "Seams," the cover...). I'd like to think you could go as far as to put it on shuffle and listen to it differently each time. There's also a lot of subject matter about splits in reality, jumps in subject matter, very stretched metaphors, sounds that stick out, polyrhythms, etc, but I can see how that is not an obvious intention.

We aren't friends on Facebook, as far as I know. I was describing an experience I've had many times, and one which I assumed was universal. You put months of hard work into something, and even your friends and family can't be arsed to click on it. Making art is rough on the ego sometimes.

I hear what you're saying about all of thought that went into your album. That's great that you have a clear artistic vision - my reaction was from the point of view of someone who threw it on while working rather than someone who was giving it the attention it deserves. It sounds like there's a lot more to be experienced upon further listens and I think that's a sign it might be a great album. I'm going to leave one more thought though, which is just something to think about and not necessarily something that even applies here. I had a teacher tell me once that I should be as obvious as I can be, because I'll never be as obvious as I think I'm being.

Are you a fan of John Zorn?

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

ricecult posted:

And I haven't really listened to John Zorn, but I'll check him out. Where's a good place to start?

That's a tough question cuz he has such a diverse (and huuugely prolific) output. I was asking about him because of your interest in polystylism. One thing he's known for, in some of his projects, is creating a musical framework of jump-cuts. You can hear that in his Naked City project, a kind of grindcore/free jazz/surf rock thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZSw73DLq-0

Some easy listening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7rU6LPAauE

And postmodern New Music™:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AabrlJo2HYs

I saw him a few years ago accepting an honorary doctorate from New England Conservatory (plus a concert of his music performed by NEC students). He wore baggy camo pants and a T-shirt with his own band name on it, and gave a short speech about how academic musical education is BS. Interesting guy. I feel like I've listened to a lot of his music, but I've still only barely scratched the surface.

edit: Apologies for the YouTube thumbnail image. I don't know how to hide it.

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

china bot posted:

I'm over halfway through recording my first album (I released my debut EP in May). I'm nobody's idea of a talented musician, and I mostly started recording out of a lack of any other hobbies, but I've been really happy with my sloppy, ultra lo-fi results.

here's one of the album demos, to give you an idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnPDkxfOkpI

I listened to both the video and the EP. I wouldn't call it sloppy or particularly lo-fi, and you're absolutely a talented musician even if the music doesn't sound like anything that's currently popular.

I really dig "Killer of Children", which sounds very different from the album. I'm at a place where I appreciate clearly-understood vocals and candid lyrics. It reminds me a little of Parquet Courts in that regard. On the album, my favorite track was Puna Pau thanks to the 80s post-hardcore influence. The album didn't work for me as a whole, for similar reasons to what I told ricecult above about unity. It sounds more like a mixtape to me. Might work for others - I could certainly be a minority here. I wish it had all been in the direction of "Killer of Children".

On a different note, I know Chicago is a big place but I've got a group of friends there I could totally see you being "in" with musically. Do you happen to know the synth band Iverson?

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

china bot posted:

I've never heard of Iverson, but I'm completely ignorant of the Chicago music scene in general. I'll give 'em a listen!

Also, thanks for your notes! The EP basically is a mixtape - the end result of a two-day recording session, my first time recording any music in over a decade, where the end goal was to prove I could make an EP longer than the Minutemen's debut EP while working out some ideas I got during a trip to Easter Island. So yeah, I can't argue with it lacking unity. I feel like the album already has a much more consistent sound than the EP, but it's something I'll try to be mindful of. Killer of Children and Puna Pau are the two tracks I'm proudest of, so I'm glad to hear you liked those!

I'm not good at Bandcamp, so PM me when your album drops if you remember. I'd like to hear it.

e. Oh and if you do check out Iverson, definitely give "Chosen Ones" a spin. That song is ridiculously good and it's a shame they don't get more exposure. I wouldn't say Iverson itself is in line with your music so much, but I know the tastes of the individual members and they'd like your stuff.

Ah what the hell, I'll just post that song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHXjZ5ur-Y

LargeHadron fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Nov 15, 2017

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

It's a good track, nice post-MBV dissonances in the guitar and nice vocals too (well, once they've been mixed properly). You missed out on a chance for interesting word-painting with the repetition of "grow" halfway through. Make it grow in some way (gradually building layers until it's just a mess of the word "grow" from every angle), or at least keep it going longer than you feel is appropriate. That's just my two cents.

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

silencekit posted:

Yep, parameter word painting is on my list for sure for that moment. Like I said, vox are scratch, and I'm for sure holding off on pumping it full of fun effects until I have a real take. Thanks for the feedback!

Oh ok, cool. Sorry to assume you hadn't thought of that, my bad.

e. I just noticed you're the Wag guy. Keep it real, man.

LargeHadron fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Nov 18, 2017

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.
I released my album today - not too much to say about the experience of writing or recording it. It took a few months to write all of the songs, then I had it produced by a very talented multi-instrumentalist. I think it's fair to say he put more work into it than I did. He was incredibly patient with me as my vision for the album grew from a small acoustic project into what it eventually became.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJB_qEHZ3sg

Or if you prefer to listen a different way:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/0PgyEDLayzCnwwYBBYai35
Bandcamp: https://paulengland.bandcamp.com/releases

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

NarkyBark posted:

(One of) My metal band's first full album is finally getting finished up, after a long year. Hoping to get it wrapped in a bow in the next couple months. We put a tune on YT just to see what people thought, so... if it's your kinda thing, tell me what you think!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUzXRZsCcgY

I think it's great! Par for the course as far as technical death metal (?) goes. Production, vocals, riffs, artwork, everything.

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

i recorded an EP this week instead of studying for finals

procrastination = motivation :shrug:

http://420lsd.bandcamp.com/album/fall

its just a buncha dumb  v a p o r w a v e  and weird electronics but you know, its mine :allears:

As someone who had never heard vaporwave before this, I really dig the idea of taking easy-listening music and making it ugly. I don't know what I'd say about this particular manifestation of it if I knew the genre better though. Still, I really enjoyed "now it is a robot dirge" especially. I either heard or imagined some neat Baroque harmonies underneath the mud. My only complaints are that "bots on patrol" is bland in its sonic palette, and that you don't take yourself seriously. Or is that part of the aesthetic?

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

joylessdivision posted:

My best friend sent me a batch of lyrics I wrote back in 2003-2006 that I lost after reformatting my computer, and while they're kinda cringey teenage metal lyrics, they inspired me to start working on am ep of songs from those lyrics, but trying to capture the mood and atmosphere of what I was listening to and inspired by back then.

I have one track recorded already (of 5 sets of lyrics) that I need to lay vocals on, and a second that has a very rough demo recorded already.

So far it feels different than what I've been writing for my main project, and the freedom to experiment with different styles has been incredibly inspiring.

This is the first track

https://soundcloud.com/davidplaysgloomymusic/ghost-show-demo-1

What sort of music do you normally write? Did you perform all of the instrumental parts for this demo?

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.
I listened to both tracks you linked, and then I browsed (visually) the rest of your SoundCloud. It looks like you have a lot of demo material and very little, if any, completed and polished works. What are you ultimately hoping to do with this material?

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

Tweezer Reprise posted:

Hi, now I am officially recording an album!

I assume moments where you suddenly think everything you wrote sucks are normal?

Ha, totally. So are the moments where strangers on the internet tell you in no uncertain terms that everything you wrote sucks, and friends and family listen to what you wrote and never speak a word about it to you, or just never listen to it in the first place despite trying to start awkward conversations about it when you see them...goddamnit.

Serious answer, I had a teacher once who told me that if you already know that what you compose will be well-received, then you aren't making good art. I think there need to be a few qualifiers on that statement before I'm willing to agree with it, but I can get behind it as a general sentiment. Your art might never be appreciated for reasons beyond its quality, and if you give up because of that then you'll never give yourself the chance to become appreciated. I hope you're willing to commit to the long haul. I have my own doubts often.

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

Tweezer Reprise posted:

Wow, thanks a lot! It's always good to have a battle-tested outside voice who's been there.
I have most of basic recording done, a friend who's doing drums for me. It's a modest first release, a short 7 tracks in 27 minutes. Then, I have to learn to fill out a mix, actually mix, and master.

I'm looking forward to hearing it. Be sure to post when it's done.

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

You've made me curious to hear it. Want to post?

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

This is really good and I hope people in this thread click on it and listen for more than like 30 seconds

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LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

El Miguel posted:

We've just released another one: https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/jessicascrime6

It should be available on iTunes, Amazon, etc., relatively soon. Our cover model passed away back on 3/1, from a fast-moving throat cancer. Poor thing.

Dang, are you really the top American western-pop-rock-and-goth outfit?

edit: I listened to it all minus half of the Smiths cover. I’m in a tough spot here cuz I want to be constructive, but I also want to be harsh as a sort of payback for the CD Baby album description. I understand the DIY thing is a really awkward place to be in. You have to take yourself seriously, because nobody is going to do that for you, and it’s tough to find the right place between “I’m nobody, just a small indie band” and “I’m the top band in my genre”. It’s obvious you wrote your own copy and probably your own Wikipedia page, and I think the success of your overconfident self-praise relies too much on the ignorance of the reader. What I mean is, it sounds like you’re trying to make me believe you’re already a well-known and respected band in order to convince me to pay attention to you. Of course, you probably have to do this to some degree in order to break through (fake it til you make it, and all that), but this comes off to me as particularly phony and made me dislike you before I even listened. This may be the typical reaction too - it’s really easy to Google you and come to the conclusion that you aren’t widely-known. It’s a tough balance, one I’m trying to figure out myself.

Now for the music itself: I thought it was alright. Certainly not one of the smartest albums I’ve heard in a long time, by far. You’ve got a solid sound and some pretty decent vocals. I was really impressed by “Nine While Nine”, and then disappointed to find out it’s not only a cover, but a cover within your genre. I haven’t heard the original. I really didn’t like the “How Soon is Now” cover. It’s reasonably accurate, but there’s nothing about it (well, at least the first half of it since I gave up) that justifies it being on the album for me. I think it would be cool to bust that out at a live show, definitely. It’s fun to watch a band play an accurate cover of a song you like. But for a recorded cover, I dunno. Nothing about it interests me more than the original; less even.

I could sort of hear the Bad Seeds influence in some of the guitar work. It’s a very surface-level comparison. What makes Nick Cave effective is the risk-taking, both lyrically and muscially. He’s not afraid to embarrass himself. And he does - no matter how many times I’ve laughed or cringed at some cloying piano tune or awkward phrase, he’s the greater artist for it. I’d like to see more risk-taking in your work.

LargeHadron fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Mar 14, 2018

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