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fsif posted:The contrarian rear end in a top hat part of me really wants to start the backlash against the football world gushing over Tony Romo, but I can't. Guy really seems like he has his finger on the pulse of the modern NFL unlike anyone else in the booth. I really hope he keeps on top of things. He seemed like he was having lots of fun, to boot.
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I wonder if Romo's current booth prescience is related to the fact that he just retired, and the state of the game and its players is more or less identical to what it was when we left. I wonder if guys like Aikman were as on-point when they were just starting out in the booth.
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Hot Diggity! posted:Nah. Defense has been up and down has played really well in 1.5 games. My issue is that the defense has plenty of individual talent but even then there's still inexplicably large gaps in the defense that every offense takes advantage of. I can think of multiple from the Bengals game. Given that this has been an issue for years I can only attribute it to Capers's scheme.
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Sep 26, 2017 16:13
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C-Euro posted:I wonder if Romo's current booth prescience is related to the fact that he just retired, and the state of the game and its players is more or less identical to what it was when we left. I wonder if guys like Aikman were as on-point when they were just starting out in the booth. Madden at his most incoherent would randomly snap back into his old self and perfectly diagram a playcall right as it happened occasionally. He might eventually not be able to call the exact play an offense runs, but he'd still be extremely prescient on game flow and descriptive about what's happening.
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Sep 26, 2017 16:13
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wtf was up with gruden going on like 3 separate rants about reviews ruining the game
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Sep 26, 2017 16:27
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C-Euro posted:I wonder if Romo's current booth prescience is related to the fact that he just retired, and the state of the game and its players is more or less identical to what it was when we left. I wonder if guys like Aikman were as on-point when they were just starting out in the booth. This is basically what Musburger's "angry man yells at cloud" rant was saying. It's obviously a factor - Romo was breaking down film as a QB less than 12 months ago, so a lot of what teams are doing is going to still be familiar. But as Brian Baldinger's recent foray into Twitter as shown, there's still plenty a guy out of the game for a while can elaborate on. I think the bigger risk would be TV exec influence.
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WHOOPS posted:This is basically what Musburger's "angry man yells at cloud" rant was saying. It's obviously a factor - Romo was breaking down film as a QB less than 12 months ago, so a lot of what teams are doing is going to still be familiar. But as Brian Baldinger's recent foray into Twitter as shown, there's still plenty a guy out of the game for a while can elaborate on. I think the bigger risk would be TV exec influence. It's not just that. Romo was always a studious guy and a better passer/reader of defenses than say, Aikman. Dude's got a high football IQ.
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Sep 26, 2017 18:22
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Sep 26, 2017 18:27
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TheChirurgeon posted:It's not just that. Romo was always a studious guy and a better passer/reader of defenses than say, Aikman. Dude's got a high football IQ. Romo is so awesome, I have a legit man crush on the man. And he apparently can turn pro golfer at any time so there's also that.
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Sep 26, 2017 18:27
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Seeing Romo dissect every play makes me wonder even more what Cutler would have been like in the booth.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:06
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:Seeing Romo dissect every play makes me wonder even more what Cutler would have been like in the booth. 9001 times more apathetic.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:08
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Nantz: It's 3rd & 8, Jay. What do you think they'll call here? Cutler: Who loving cares
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C-Euro posted:I wonder if Romo's current booth prescience is related to the fact that he just retired, and the state of the game and its players is more or less identical to what it was when we left. I wonder if guys like Aikman were as on-point when they were just starting out in the booth. Romo went to the booth because his back and collarbone have both been broken multiple times, his team moved on from him, and he could make a lot more money not getting maimed while just getting to relax and watch football all the time. Aikman left the game because his noggin got rattled so many times it wasn't safe for him to play again by loving 1990s standards. Even then, Troy was never the student of the game that Romo was. Romo had a lot more in common with Peyton Manning than he did Aikman. I figure if Peyton ever wanted to get in the booth he would do a lot of the same things.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:27
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Aikman was infamous for being a fairly dumb QB who could make all the throws but had to have his plays and adjustments called for him
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Sep 26, 2017 20:34
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He also handed it off to some running back a lot .
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Sep 26, 2017 20:34
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It was really pretty when he'd hit a wide open Irvin (because of a push off) in stride for a TD, though.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:42
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Oh god I just mad again at Irvin's push offs after 20 years of dormancy
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Sep 26, 2017 20:44
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euphronius posted:Oh god I just mad again at Irvin's push offs after 20 years of dormancy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVcS8ifPFLQ He was really good at other things, too! That video really has it all. Amazing circus catches, juggling nonsense turning into touchdowns, John Madden trying to say Aeneas Williams, and a whole lot of blatant pushoffs that would be easy OPI calls today. Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Sep 26, 2017 |
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Sep 26, 2017 20:48
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I can't believe they played on that awful turf.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:52
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Mr. Nice! posted:Romo went to the booth because his back and collarbone have both been broken multiple times, his team moved on from him, and he could make a lot more money not getting maimed while just getting to relax and watch football all the time. The one thing about Romo I do appreciate, after having dealt with Favre's bullshit, is that he understood his team had moved on. The media wanted to make hay of it, but he wisely hung it up instead of risking paralysis or worse. And it got Simms out of the booth.
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weird Asian candy posted:Romo is so awesome, I have a legit man crush on the man. And he apparently can turn pro golfer at any time so there's also that. Did a short stint with the Mavs too, incredible athlete
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Sep 26, 2017 21:01
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WHOOPS posted:checks out, imo QBR (cam still sucks now though)
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Sep 26, 2017 21:16
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Is ESPN ever going to give up on QBR now that Trent Dilfer took a trip to Belize?
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dphi posted:Did a short stint with the Mavs too, incredible athlete Romo does it allllllll
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Sep 26, 2017 21:35
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dphi posted:Did a short stint with the Mavs too, incredible athlete I wanted him to play so bad
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Sep 26, 2017 21:42
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Sep 26, 2017 23:20
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Wasnt there something floating about that a lot of booth dudes were told to keep it simple for the average fan not go too in depth? For years everyone said gently caress that and now we're getting an analyst that does some in depth analysis its pretty good. Romo owns.
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Romos good for how long he's been doing it, but not great. For instance he doesn't know when to shut up. He's calling touchdown when the play by play is calling it instead of waiting to comment which is pretty basic broadcast etiquette. Also the prediction thing is awesome to use once in awhile but he uses it past the point of annoyance. It's like when Mel Kiper is a cockblock and announces the pick and then 30 seconds later Goodell announces it. A. There is a certain mystery that should be kept in the game. Romo has specialized knowledge and sees things that we don't but it isn't always in the best interest of the magician to reveal his secrets. At least he could be more subtle about it. B. Some of what he predicts isn't exactly a mindfuck such as a run on third down and short with heavy personnel and doesn't need to be said except it might impress fans newer to the game I guess. I think Nance could do more to help him. Romo is super likeable overall and is doing fine but I think some of the praise he's getting especially from younger NFL fans is overstated especially when Romo himself would admit he can and will improve alot.
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Thx grandpa
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my favorite color guy was John madden
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Kalli posted:Madden at his most incoherent would randomly snap back into his old self and perfectly diagram a playcall right as it happened occasionally. Madden's last game was the Steelers/Cardinals Super Bowl. I will always remember him dropping maddenisms all over the place, but right before the ball is snapped on the Harrison pick six he says "Gotta watch out for throwing a pick here" And then midway through the 4th quarter he mentions something like "If I'm Palmer I'm looking Fitzgeralds way here". Boom! 64 yard TD to Fitz to take the lead. Maybe coincidence but to me in the moment, it made me think "that's why this guy is the most famous announcer of all time".
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I'm probably the only one on TFF to have experienced Don Meredith on MNF as the color guy with Howard Cosell and Frank Gifford That was great
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Ehud posted:my favorite color guy was John madden He's white though.
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TheBizzness posted:Madden's last game was the Steelers/Cardinals Super Bowl. Madden/Summerall were just the poo poo. They could make even lovely games entertaining. Al Michaels/Madden were underrated too. Al Michaels might be the only man alive who could do both play by play and color by himself for a national broadcast. Keith Atherton posted:I'm probably the only one on TFF to have experienced Don Meredith on MNF as the color guy with Howard Cosell and Frank Gifford Way before my time but those guys were legit hilarious. pasaluki fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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Sep 27, 2017 02:12
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Al Michaels is probably one of the best all-sports broadcasters of all time, if not the best.
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the only thing that ever came close to summerall/madden was tirico/gruden and that's still lightyears off
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Sep 27, 2017 02:29
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I legit love grudens enthusiasm talking football though. He should have his own show where he interviews players about football like inside the actors studio.
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pasaluki posted:Madden/Summerall were just the poo poo. They could make even lovely games entertaining. Al Michaels/Madden were underrated too. Al Michaels might be the only man alive who could do both play by play and color by himself for a national broadcast. Vin Scully if his life went a little differently and he called more football games?
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Sep 27, 2017 02:35
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The best color guy is bill walton I will fight everyone about this
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TheBizzness posted:Madden's last game was the Steelers/Cardinals Super Bowl. Also want to comment on this, this is probably why Romo calls the games like he does, he grew up watching Madden and well, why not do what the greats do?
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