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Pirate Jet posted:I'd agree with you if Al Jean hadn't spent all day retweeting people complaining about "PC Culture" and getting in arguments with Apu's detractors. yeah that's why this is a weird situation for me, because what Al Jean's been saying seems to actively go against the most obvious intepretation of what the show said. like, I really kinda have to stretch to get what he was apparently trying to say out of it.
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Apr 14, 2018 02:54
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Echo Chamber posted:I get the feeling I don't want Matt Groening to weigh in on this. I saw a tweet recently (But damned if I can find it now) highlighting that on the DVDs, you can see storyboards with Groening's notes and there are more than a few along the lines "Remember to make this crowd diverse" and "Don't make homosexuality/disability the punchline here." I think Matt is too busy counting Netflix money/working on a project he actually cares about at the moment to get involved...but I want to believe he'd have a better take on the situation that seemingly everybody else has thus far.
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Apr 14, 2018 03:24
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JethroMcB posted:I saw a tweet recently (But damned if I can find it now) highlighting that on the DVDs, you can see storyboards with Groening's notes and there are more than a few along the lines "Remember to make this crowd diverse" and "Don't make homosexuality/disability the punchline here." https://twitter.com/bobservo/status/758442670427557889 Between those and the incredible and still-relevant Life in Hell comics, I‘d hope “P.C. Matt” would be on the right side now as well.
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Apr 14, 2018 05:03
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Urdnot Fire posted:It’s an older one from Bob Mackey of Talking Simpsons and Retronauts that’s been making the rounds again in light of last episode: Ding ding ding. I knew that's where it was, but for whatever reason I couldn't find it. "Talking Simpsons" is a very fun podcast; highly recommended.
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Apr 14, 2018 06:37
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Mister Kingdom posted:Fears of a Clown I watched this one and it's the first one I've seen since the mid teens. I know it's a "thing" now for the beginning to not tie in to the rest but what the gently caress was that all about?
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Apr 14, 2018 19:25
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King Leer Homer and Marge follow Moe after the bar closes early and discover him and his father fighting. The Simpsons, after finding out that Moe has been excommunicated from his family for years, attempt to bring them back together.
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Apr 14, 2018 19:40
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Mister Kingdom posted:King Leer So Reverend Krustofsky again huh
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Apr 14, 2018 20:05
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Maybe he gets a cell phone!
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Apr 14, 2018 23:43
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Inkspot posted:Maybe he gets a cell phone! Or we learn more about the cult he started!
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Apr 15, 2018 13:56
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Let this be the last Moe-centric episode.
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Apr 16, 2018 01:21
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Mister Kingdom posted:Let this be the last Moe-centric episode. Honestly at this point I've come around to the fact that the show needs to end. I know I've bought this up before in these threads but Julie Kavner sounds just unwell trying to do Marge at this point. There's maybe one or two passable episodes a season but it just isn't worth it anymore. They'll break the record in two weeks and then can do a victory lap season next year, but just let it be done.
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Apr 16, 2018 02:46
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J33uk posted:Honestly at this point I've come around to the fact that the show needs to end. I know I've bought this up before in these threads but Julie Kavner sounds just unwell trying to do Marge at this point. There's maybe one or two passable episodes a season but it just isn't worth it anymore. They'll break the record in two weeks and then can do a victory lap season next year, but just let it be done. Marge definitely sounds like a different person and it's REALLY obvious.
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Apr 16, 2018 19:11
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I've said it before, but they could keep the Simpsons going for another 20 years just by reanimating the episodes in HD and using the same voice recordings. I'm not saying that they should mind you, there's a lot more personality in that older animation, but you got two decades of stories that a large segment of the audience has never seen. Re-animating would make those seasons more palatable to modern audiences and it would be a lot cheaper than keeping things going with new episodes. It could also fit nicely with Fox's goal of 2 minutes of commercials per hour. They wouldn't have to use the syndication cut and they could even tack on a short behind the scenes with each episode. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Apr 16, 2018 |
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Apr 16, 2018 19:34
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bull3964 posted:I've said it before, but they could keep the Simpsons going for another 20 years just by reanimating the episodes in HD and using the same voice recordings. I am going to say there's nobody watching the Simpsons who hasn't seen the classic episodes. And nobody that's thinking "I'm not watching that, it's not in HD". Or at least the demographic that DOES watch it because they picked it up in series 20 or whatever is tiny.
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Apr 16, 2018 20:37
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Taear posted:I am going to say there's nobody watching the Simpsons who hasn't seen the classic episodes. Yeah that poo poo ran on reruns for ages
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Apr 16, 2018 20:51
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Just watched Marge in Chains, and that scene where Apu and Sanjay are “dancing” — yeesh. Even back then, people knew better than that. That’s not just a bad accent and a stereotypical job.
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Apr 16, 2018 22:48
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socialsecurity posted:Yeah that poo poo ran on reruns for ages I'm going to say that it's a bit like Friends. It's a cultural phenomenon and people watching it were enjoying the old ones. They're not picking it up now and avoiding the old ones.
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Apr 17, 2018 11:37
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Finally watched Sunday's episode. It was okay. An episode where they resorted to mining Moe's family backstory could have been worse. And Bart tormenting Homer with the violin was fun. I'm glad there was no chalkboard gag. PT6A posted:Just watched Marge in Chains, and that scene where Apu and Sanjay are “dancing” — yeesh. Even back then, people knew better than that. That’s not just a bad accent and a stereotypical job. I should probably get around to watching Hari Kondabolu's documentary. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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Apr 18, 2018 21:29
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I'm gonna post this early: Lisa Gets the Blues When the Simpsons' flight to Gainesville gets re-routed to New Orleans, Lisa is forced to face her failures, and regain her confidence as a jazz musician. Meanwhile, Bart is intrigued by the voodoo in Louisiana, and Homer is intrigued by the drinking. This is the 635th episode tying it with Gunsmoke with the most number of episodes for a scripted prime time show.
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Apr 18, 2018 23:13
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Moe having siblings is weird and I don't like it. I liked him best when he was in The Little Rascals.
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Apr 19, 2018 08:19
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Echo Chamber posted:Finally watched Sunday's episode. It was okay. An episode where they resorted to mining Moe's family backstory could have been worse. And Bart tormenting Homer with the violin was fun. Watch it, it’s under an hour and has Whoopi Goldberg in it.
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Apr 19, 2018 08:24
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That was pretty bad. Think it was an apology for the Streetcar Named Desire episode that pissed off New Orleans?
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Apr 23, 2018 05:39
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That was bearable for a Lisa episode. Liked the Milhouse and Maggie gag.
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Apr 23, 2018 14:21
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Any word if they're going to have a special couch gag this week?
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Apr 24, 2018 22:36
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Mister Kingdom posted:Any word if they're going to have a special couch gag this week? I mean, they've brought it up every episode for a month.
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Apr 24, 2018 22:41
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Apr 30, 2018 01:02
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Jesus what the gently caress is wrong with Marge? It sounds like her voice actor is on death's door.
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Apr 30, 2018 01:07
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drat that is a terrible thing Abe did.
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Apr 30, 2018 01:18
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Well, there we have it
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Apr 30, 2018 02:51
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PT6A posted:Jesus what the gently caress is wrong with Marge? It sounds like her voice actor is on death's door. I can’t really blame her. Imagine doing that voice and harsher versions of that voice for 31 years.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:27
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Echo Chamber posted:I get the feeling I don't want Matt Groening to weigh in on this. well TOO BAD https://news.avclub.com/matt-groening-says-apu-critics-love-to-pretend-to-be-o-1825666180 quote:The latest person to weigh in on the debacle is none other than the show’s creator, Matt Groening. While discussing the show’s latest milestone (most episodes for a primetime scripted series) with USA Today, Groening was asked about the criticism that Apu’s an outdated stereotype. He briefly lamented that kids these days are just so sensitive, saying “I’m proud of what we do on the show. And I think it’s a time in our culture where people love to pretend they’re offended,” which conveniently ignores the fact that Kondabolu and many other critics of Apu say they’ve always felt this way watching the show—it’s just that now, they have some standing from which to critique Groening and the other writers’ approach.
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Why the gently caress is it so hard for these people to admit, just maybe, they made a fairly innocent mistake that turned out, after three decades on a popular TV show, to have a negative impact on people? It's really off-putting.
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May 1, 2018 14:11
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Yuck. Like... if your most enthusiastic defenders are Trump trolls, maybe it's worth reconsidering your position.
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May 2, 2018 00:48
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It's real easy to slip into the conservative viewpoint and dismiss criticism as "they're just pretending to be upset because it's fashionable" when you're a super successful comedy dude who has been lauded as a creative genius for most of your life and whose wealth has kept you detached from the general public for decades. See also: Jerry Seinfeld, John Cleese, Mel Brooks, Ricky Gervais, etc etc..
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May 2, 2018 07:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1P_CI2Hhcc An interesting take.
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May 2, 2018 12:44
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Looks like Mister Kingdom has abandoned his post so ...quote:Left Behind
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May 7, 2018 11:20
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Uncle Wemus posted:well TOO BAD Ooof, rough crowd. Ole Groening is going to have to pull out the A-material 
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May 7, 2018 14:18
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That was a legitimately good episode.
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S29e20: Throw Grampa from the Dane The Simpsons take Grampa to Denmark so that he can benefit from its socialized medicine system.
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