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Brendan Rodgers posted:Klopp will fix it he's got a plan. Better hope he's not a Cylon, because it turns out they did not have a plan
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Weaponized Cum posted:getting the aids sure is a "taking a weird turn" Well yeah, but even before that it was weird. He got banned from football for a year because of a dispute with his agent, and he was talking about killing himself. And I seem to remember a bunch of other weird stories popping up about him. e: Wait now the agent is claiming that the announcement about HIV was fake, but he's also not denying he has HIV.
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TheBigAristotle posted:Better hope he's not a Cylon, because it turns out they did not have a plan Ummmm yeah they did there was a whole film about it. Admittedly it was an extremely poo poo plan.
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blue footed boobie posted:Well yeah, but even before that it was weird. He got banned from football for a year because of a dispute with his agent, and he was talking about killing himself. And I seem to remember a bunch of other weird stories popping up about him. They noticed abnormality in his blood sample, not specifically that he has HIV.
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sassassin posted:Jack Cork what a signing what a player. Jack cork might not even make a former Chelsea player XI
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kcer posted:and yet liverpool are still only 2 points behind 3rd (spurs), you were never title contenders to begin with, and are doing ok in europe Yeah this, Klopp is all right for their current level, he's just not a top-tier manager who can get better results by shear force of will. It's easy to blame the manager for everything when the rest of the coaching/scouting staff aren't getting the media focus on their own incompetence.
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Jose posted:Mikel merino is extremely good imo Dortmund's scouting system is extremely good.
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Moktaro posted:Yeah this, Klopp is all right for their current level, he's just not a top-tier manager who can get better results by shear force of will. It's easy to blame the manager for everything when the rest of the coaching/scouting staff aren't getting the media focus on their own incompetence. Again, Klopp had 100% control over transfers this summer, and has 100% control over his coaching staff. There is not a single person at the club that Klopp does not want there.
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Well yes, but there's absolutely zero evidence that the people he delegated to are the reason our transfer window was a shambles. Klopp was the one tapping up VVD then decided we couldn't do any better than Ragnar loving Klavan.
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EvilHawk posted:Well yes, but there's absolutely zero evidence that the people he delegated to are the reason our transfer window was a shambles. Klopp was the one tapping up VVD then decided we couldn't do any better than Ragnar loving Klavan. Yes. Let's unreservedly trust the football judgment of people who pushed Balotelli as the "Plan B" Suarez replacement and turned down the possibility of getting Mane before he went to Southampton because their states didn't add up: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2296954-inside-line-liverpools-transfer-committee-has-been-a-spectacular-failure I've defended the transfer committee before too, but let's not pretend they're perfect and it's all on Klopp. The club's dysfunctional, but Klopp gets to be the main target because he's the one constantly in front of the cameras. Unlike Rodgers, though, Klopp hasn't been throwing people under the bus.
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Shrapnig posted:Balotelli was a huge part of City's Premier League winning side to be fair and scored 13 goals in 23 appearances as the second forward behind Aguero. But he was also a completely different style of player to either Suarez or the first choice target Alexis Sanchez. I actually liked Balotelli, but it was not a good idea. Maybe the scoring statistics were attractive, but the choice was definitely not because the club had a definite playing style in mind. It's also not like any of the other targets they had gone for that season were part of a retooling that would have made better use of Balotelli either (if they had bothered watching how he was playing at Milan). There's also a whole conversation you could have on how Balotelli seemed to change style after playing with Ibrahimovic at Milan, so generally judging him by his time at City was a bad idea. The point is, I don't Klopp has a monopoly on idiocy at LIverpool.
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Bobby Digital posted:Early October Liverpool are the early September Arsenal Arsenal are still in really bad shape and will be for the foreseeable future. It's not worth talking about it until something changes.
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EvilHawk posted:Well yes, but there's absolutely zero evidence that the people he delegated to are the reason our transfer window was a shambles. Klopp was the one tapping up VVD then decided we couldn't do any better than Ragnar loving Klavan. You should just follow this through to the logical conclusion early and start posting exclusively in games about Nintendo.
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Klopp will be fine as long as Liverpool finish in European places, more pressure if they miss out on the top 4 (although that would be them reverting to the mean as they haven't managed consecutive top 4 finishes in over a decade - Liverpool didn't manage a top 4 finish the season they won the CL). Liverpool fans do need to be a little more realistic. Everton will be fine, possibly need to sack Koeman but they'll be fine. I don't usually support early sackings but to spend that much as a smaller club and end up with three players playing in the same position and tanking the club form with no clear tactical plan is just insane. On the back of the Ozil United rumours I could easily see that happening and Ozil bossing the league since Mourinho would adapt the side to suit him, meanwhile Wengy would do a cry and play new attacking prospect Reiss Nelson at right wing back and hope he comes good.
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Jose posted:Harry winks is in the England squad lol does this mean we probably arent going to win the world cup
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Jose posted:Harry winks is in the England squad lol Just as much a fraud as that other Harry from Tottenham.
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Bacon Terrorist posted:On the back of the Ozil United rumours I could easily see that happening and Ozil bossing the league since Mourinho would adapt the side to suit him, meanwhile Wengy would do a cry and play new attacking prospect Reiss Nelson at right wing back and hope he comes good. January is going to be the biggest clusterfuck. Ozil and Sanchez will sign their contracts with other teams, and, at the same time it will become apparent that basically the rest of the team is going in to the last year of their contract.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:We wouldn't buy Keita in advance like that unless there's a long term plan. I think that plan was "buy Keita in advance"
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oliwan posted:All these Liverpool posters wasting so much energy on a joke of a club that will never ever win anything of note anymore. it a sad sight to behold.
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oliwan posted:All these Liverpool posters wasting so much energy on a joke of a club that will never ever win anything of note anymore. it a sad sight to behold. imagine if any of them ever visited liverpool
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Brony Car posted:Yes. Let's unreservedly trust the football judgment of people who pushed Balotelli as the "Plan B" Suarez replacement and turned down the possibility of getting Mane before he went to Southampton because their states didn't add up: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2296954-inside-line-liverpools-transfer-committee-has-been-a-spectacular-failure You're missing the point, which is the transfer committee does not exist any more. Klopp decides who he wants and Michael Edwards tries to buy them. Klopp only wanted VVD and he and Edwards hosed up trying to get him.
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blue footed boobie posted:January is going to be the biggest clusterfuck. Ozil and Sanchez will sign their contracts with other teams, and, at the same time it will become apparent that basically the rest of the team is going in to the last year of their contract. Why wait until January? Let's get this party started now. Arsenal stars Alexis Sanchez and Mesut Ozil have infuriated teammates by missing a club engagement
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ultrabindu posted:Why wait until January? Let's get this party started now. I wonder who his not made up infuriated sources are
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EvilHawk posted:You're missing the point, which is the transfer committee does not exist any more. Klopp decides who he wants and Michael Edwards tries to buy them. Klopp only wanted VVD and he and Edwards hosed up trying to get him. Stop melting down its really embarrassing
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