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FactsAreUseless posted:What makes conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones so effective is that the U.S. has legitimately done a bunch of crazy poo poo that sounds like conspiracy theories. MK Ultra, basically every single thing we did in the South America during the Cold War, Iran-Contra, every single thing about J. Edgar Hoover and the Dulles brothers, we sent pallets of cash to Iraq that vanished (this isn't even a conspiracy, just a baffling fuckup), the CIA sold cocaine to fund arms trade, the Tuskegee experiment, etc. etc. It all sounds exactly like the made-up theories, just with different nouns. The only difference is it's proven history. I mean when Alex Jones talks about crazy government stuff sure, but then sometimes he just goes off and does this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 19:02 |
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walgreenslatino posted:Zinc cadmium sulfide doesn't make people sick. They dumped a lot more in some places, but yeah that's not really the most interesting thing. It sounds like there was a lot more plutonium and iron radiation testing than we previously thought, which was the interesting part to me. Also yeah the term 'radiation field' seems questionable at best.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 19:05 |
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For whoever wanted to know where in Britain we tested stuff, part of the zinc cadmium sulphide testing was done in the North Sea so it would get carried on the wind over Britain. I assume they meant that?
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 19:10 |
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Triple post: I found this article from 2012 that talks about the St. Louis lady and has more detail on that specific operation http://www.businessinsider.com/army-sprayed-st-louis-with-toxic-dust-2012-10 quote:In the mid-1950s, and again a decade later, the Army used motorized blowers atop a low-income housing high-rise, at schools and from the backs of station wagons to send a potentially dangerous compound into the already-hazy air in predominantly black areas of St. Louis. Bonus fun out of context quote that sums this all up nicely: quote:"I feel betrayed," said Brindell, who is white.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 19:14 |
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Oh I didn't catch that either, and in the other article I found Martino-Taylor was just theorizing that there could have been. That is certainly a much bigger deal
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 19:21 |
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:conspiracy theorists also lay claim to be smarter than everyone, and conspiracy theories that "prove" jfk was killed by zionists or w/e are a way of proving they're smarter, because everyone else just can't see that there was a cipher in the protocols in the elder of zion foretelling it I mean I think it just comes down to like, it's super fun to think that you know something that they don't want you to know and that you're secretly living in a Tom Clancy novel starring yourself, and some people just really really need to feel special
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2017 04:11 |
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Main Paineframe posted:Conspiracies are not largely restricted to the right, it's just that they mostly only get coverage on the right because the media cares far more about a few wealthy white celebrities' thoughts on vaccines than about the African-American mistrust of the medical industry caused by abuses like the Tuskegee Experiment. I mean there's also something significantly more ridiculous and grandiose about everything surrounding "vaccines cause autism" or "the government is hiding aliens" than about "hey remember how we, as a nation, totally did some crimes against humanity to black people only a couple generations ago? Well we're totally not doing that now, honest. Also please don't test your municipal water supply for lead, I'm sure it's fine"
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2017 17:17 |