Malazan is trash.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2018 05:41 |
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2024 00:14 |
Ok, what makes Malazan great?
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2018 23:59 |
Benson Cunningham posted:Malazan is grim dark anime fanfiction. There are some prerequisites to liking it: Ok, this explains a lot. I mean, I will cop to being a 40k fan (there are a lot of Necrons currently encamped in my house) but 40k works much better as an over the top satire then a real grimdark setting in my opinion. It's fun, but I wouldn't rate the 40k universe as a place that makes a lot of sense or has any deeper meaning. I legitimately find Sanderson better because if I'm going for brokebrain entertainment (my usual purpose in reading fantasy novels) I can actually follow his stuff without slogging through a zillion fake made up names, unmemorable characters, or desperate attempts at being edgy that come off as dumb (Children of the Dead Seed, anyone?). Sanderson is popcorn, Malazan feels like that crazy uncle earnestly explaining QAnon and the Deep State.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2018 02:03 |
You'd really think a company of Polish Winged Hussars would fit right in, but noooooo...
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2018 23:31 |
Tolkien did it/world-building.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2018 00:12 |
A human heart posted:its actually declined because the increasing marginalisation of actual literature and the publishing industry becoming more and more uniform has meant that genre writers now only read older genre works, whereas back in the day some of those guys would have read books that didn't come free in a cereal box at some point even if they wrote pulp. It's just another form of internet bubble. This is why truly dreck fantasy authors get to be featured at the front of the fantasy section. You would think it would be possible to take all these mythological themes and make real literature, but apparently not.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2018 02:04 |
Only in the fantasy section of the bookstore can you get by with "setup books".
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2018 17:55 |
I would ask if that's actually Rothfuss, but...yep.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2018 01:23 |
BravestOfTheLamps posted:Tall, clean-shaven, and wearing his dark master's robes, he reminded me of the enigmatic Silent Doctor character present in many Modegan plays. I fought off a shiver, trying not to dwell on the fact that the appearance of the Doctor always signaled a catastrophe in the next act. Ugh, is that supposed to be a Doctor Who reference? Eragon pulled that poo poo as well as I recall. pentyne posted:Fun question: Has anyone gone over what Rothfuss wrote for Tides of Numenora? That was a big deal to him and he was a big part of the KS campaign. I kind of wonder if Rothfuss is one of those creative minds who excel best under a good director/editor reigning in his worst excesses like Kurt Sutter. Didn't that game flop really hard? I remember restarting it 3 times and just bouncing off how bad the gameplay was and how the writing seemed to be weird for weirdness sake. It's like they wanted to do Jack Vance style pulp but didn't get what made it fun (having witty characters react to the bizarre absurdities), took the absurd part, and just made everything stupid.
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2018 20:50 |
Of note is that Fela obviously doesn't save herself, kvothe just talks poo poo about how she totally could have.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2019 18:12 |
One of the big problems is that people want to write about power fantasy mages, but you need to keep up the pretense that this isn't a masturbatory power fantasy. Very few authors are going to actually make their wizards fantastical and it's much more difficult to write about the Raven King rather than "me but if I could set jocks on fire and impress women".
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2019 22:48 |
Tim Burns Effect posted:
But how is the prose?
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2019 17:08 |
I've posted this before, but loving up "Teinkle Twinkle Little Star" isn't a joke, it just makes you incompetent.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2019 21:54 |
I have no idea how you make it look difficult without it sounding bad, and I'm a string player too.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2019 15:31 |
I don't even know, but I'm surprised he approached a woman after writing Kvothe.
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# ¿ May 4, 2019 21:14 |
Someone besides me read the priory of the orange tree.
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 02:32 |
I wrote a bonfire post. I think it's interesting and worth discussing at least.
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 04:01 |
You'd think it'd be easy for all these well-off authors to just gently caress in real life.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2019 01:34 |
Sham bam bamina! posted:That's his It gets better, there's a half page long rant in the first book about having kids while unmarried is actually the real way to handle True Love because Kvothe's parents did it, and is no way refusing to commit to the woman who bore your children. I was not impressed.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2019 06:06 |
Evil Fluffy posted:I thought Malazan was a random GURPS campaign? Started as AD&D!
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2019 02:48 |
Yea it's a cult. I kinda want to check back and see if his FB page is riven between the people asking for the third book and the die-hard cultists.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 06:31 |
I'm confused, what defense are these people making other than "well I like it?"
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2019 03:35 |
...are you sure that second isn't sarcasm?
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2019 04:20 |
I made thousand hands on my bar of Ramson steel. "A woman is like a symphony", I thought, knowing nothing about either. "When she says a minor chord, that means she's sad."
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2019 07:14 |
Benson Cunningham posted:Writing Excuses gives you the most real time updates available for how woke Brendon Sanderson is on hot, cultural issues. This really does feel like a strong qualification to sell to white suburban nerds right now.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2020 16:27 |
Solice Kirsk posted:I liked it when he hosed the big titted bartender and said she was just as good as the sex goddess because all women are good at sex in different ways. Then he has sex with a few different sex ninjas, but the smallest deadliest one was his favorite. Then he doesn't have sex with his crush the prostitute. Look he's trying to describe something nerds would find fantastical, namely sexual interactions with women.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2020 01:38 |
Like Rothfuss could actually finish this shitpile in a satisfying fashion.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2020 19:58 |
The Bechdel test is extremely important for Rothfuss . It sets him up as a fake feminist so he can touch boobs, and it is one if the few critiques nerds will recognize. Incidentally, I'm doing a let's play of the Torment game mentioned in the LP, and it's just peak Rothfuss. Pretentious, bad prose, nothing to say, and Auri reappears as a little girl who made a rock god.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 06:11 |
my bony fealty posted:a really neat setting, if you like dying earth. some of the characters are pretty cool. I didnt get more than a few hours in tho So the setting actually conflicts with the story they want to tell, hard. MAJOR spoilers for the game and my LP "thesis": The game is ultimately your standard tale of an arrogant man trying to defy God and raise his daughter and how he's punished for his hubris. Unfortunately, this is undermined by the Numenera setting having all these dumb unimportant mysteries be explained by ancient science that no one understood at the time. The Sorrow that starts the game hunting you is ultimately just a robot built by some guys to prevent randos from using their Tides nanomachines, which the Changing God - your father - did to try to bring back his dead daughter. It would work wonderfully as a Kurt Vonnegut satire, but its a terrible myth.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2020 07:48 |
I love how Cline manages to objectify women by trying not to objectify them. Good job!
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 03:04 |
In Tides of Numenera, which Rothfuss at least partially wrote, the main quest has you go back in time to unrape a woman. Later a mentor character asks if you considered the rapist's feelings. This is glossing over the quest where if you help an incel stalk a woman the game, the game awards you actual compassion points. Lastly, to end the quest for the companion Rothfuss is confirmed to have written, you and an adult companion need to submit to date rape by a creeper. Rothfuss has a terrible track record of this poo poo is what I'm trying to say.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2020 23:47 |
Kchama posted:wait what wait what I cover it in more detail in my LP Thread. It's weird scifi psychic bullshit for everything except the creeper (who believes he has a right to the woman because he raised her from the dead) but its described in terms as "violation" and "forced me". Tides of Numenera is a bad game.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2020 05:56 |
Rothfuss just wants to be King Nerd and poo poo on the many women who have standards while pacifying the morons on Twitter.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2020 17:16 |
I have promised Dirt Road Junglist I will do a let's read for the forums.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2020 12:45 |
Sanderson is dull but he's not viscerally offensive.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 21:48 |
"They are beautiful Cheerios", said the pizza boy, with a smile that parted his face like sun rising over grey clouds.
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# ¿ May 13, 2020 16:21 |
I'm pretty sure it's a similie Rothfuss uses too tbh.
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# ¿ May 15, 2020 01:19 |
Even as a dumb teenager reading these books I got frustrated by how little the Chandrian appeared.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2020 00:13 |
I suspect the Roman engineers would have words. They would not be kind words.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2020 03:33 |
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2024 00:14 |
Well, that decisively kills the idea that Doors of Blah will be out in August or September, saving me a hate-read. Is Brandon Sanderson finishing this trilogy too?
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2020 22:39 |