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Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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What does someone like Rothfuss do for income? Surely the few books he's published can't be keeping him afloat? Is it all reprints and new editions? How does it work?

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Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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the editor throwing him under the bus must be one of the most savage things an editor has said about one of their clients ever. i can only imagine what prompted it

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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Ccs posted:

Regardless, they’re stirring up controversy to market themselves. The fact that people read their work after their hot takes is proof that it’s working and it incentivizes other authors to use the same tactics. It’s similar to authors posting under fake names to rail against competitors and slyly promote their own work (ex that Requires Hate blog that caused a bunch of that authors direct competitors to self harm)

the sad thing is that requireshate is proof that the tactic works. despite that big post that outed her and her years of abusive trolling, and the traction it got, she has published far more books and short stories than she ever had before people knew it was her.

as far as this dumb jemisin/rothfuss chat goes, it seems like jemisin doesn't get that the audience wants dumb poo poo about a fifteen-year-old musical prodigy who fucks good and makes the lute say sad more than they want her stuff that tries to comment on injustice and such. she'd probably have an apoplectic fit if she saw how much people make writing elf fetish litrpgs on amazon. at this point, it's like write to market or don't write at all. as a writer, i get why it might annoy her but you have to understand that's how it is these days, and it's probably only going to get worse. and I've never won a hugo award!

Horizon Burning fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Mar 29, 2021

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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Sham bam bamina! posted:

The encounter with Felurian has been alluded from the beginning and it is the first actual fantastic and legend-worthy thing Kvothe go through, unlike everything else before, that had half-truths and exaggerations mixed in between.

lmfao

the first actual fantastic and legend-worthy thing he did - being a virgin who hosed REALLY good

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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he made fun of a goon's action figures on discord or something

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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"If the horizon had shown the slightest kiss of blue, the town would be stirring."

oh come the gently caress on

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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the publisher would probably like to but, unfortunately for them and fortunately for ol' rothfuss, the guy probably sells more than anyone else in their catalogue. and, if he does happen to poo poo out a third novel, it'll probably sell more than any other release that year. they'll never admit it but the traditional publishing industry is in a slow death spiral and they need every sale they can get. someone like rothfuss essentially bank rolls so many other authors.

Horizon Burning fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Jan 14, 2022

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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Imo it'll come out eventually that brando sando works with ghostwriters (and there's nothing wrong, shameful or uncreative about that)

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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sanderson is basically a YA writer but for boys. he's got an incredible work ethic but his stories all feel like the same thing (which is part of why is work ethic is so good - writing is easy if you basically stick to a model.) but it's a recipe that people love. sanderson also appears like a nice, humble dude who understands how lucky he is. rothfuss seems like a prick.

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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if it weren't for the years of lovely gross nerd girl poetry he did, i'd believe that ernest cline is some sort of pen-name for a corporate board room.

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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mlnhd posted:

Glowing review of rothfuss on the hacker news comments page. If you’re not familiar, that website is filled with libertarian techbros who have the worst takes on everything

this sounds like that video where rlm was talking about boyhood "it's a masterpiece of perfection"

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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holy adverbs batman

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

A few different people ahve suggested I close this thread, under the theory that it's just toxic rothfuss-slamming and there's little point in keeping it going.

Do people feel this thread is still serving a purpose or should I take it out back behind the chemical sheds?

name and shame

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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gently caress off, patrick

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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Dienes posted:

Rothfuss hopped on GoodReads to plug his book and is very butthurt he didn't log in to a bunch of 5-star reviews.

i'll never understand someone like rothfuss who gets success that just about everyone else would dream of, then get all publicly malding like this.

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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it is good, imo, that publishing is embracing the sales model as laid upon us by todd howard pbuh. did you like name of the wind? would you like to purchase it twelve more times?

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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Goffer posted:

Honestly with the level of literary critique in this thread I'd love to see someone write about someone like Paul Artradies. How killing off his house and exiling him to the desert hardly set him back, he becomes emporer anyway. Or how implausible it is that he has the Fremen sucking his dick for half the book because he straps his boots the right way one time. I imagine there'd be something about white saviour trope in there too.

It feels either pretty disingenuous or just showing a poor level of literacy.

"artradies"

it's weird to bring up dune given that it does a much better job at exploring the gap between history and myth and the man paul and the legend muad'dib, which are all things rothfuss desperately wants to do with kvothe

malding this much because people don't like rothfuss lmfao

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Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
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paul is also pretty explicitly placed within the material aspects of his universe, and that informs his decisions, choices, and overall agency. the opening epigraph is even about understanding paul within the wider context of the universe, placing him in his place. paul can see the future and yet all he sees is how much his choices are constrained and not his to make.

kvothe, on the other hand, is not placed. he just is. and the decisions and choices he faces are that of a 20-something college guy.

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