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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

sportsgenius86 posted:

There's not really enough of a passionate history of fandom for these clubs so if there wasn't parity, you'd probably end of up losing a fuckload of the organizations because they wouldn't be sustainable.

"superteams" sell tons of tickets and boost the image (and revenues) of the league. the Warriors are proving this in basketball, not that they needed to, when the Bulls, Lakers, and Celtics proved that in decades gone past. tell me legitimately if you think the NBA would be more successful if they had a stricter salary cap and almost every team was the same level of middling-to-decent

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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
If the MLS is actually set on 30 teams I actually do think a western/eastern league could work as long as both leagues are single table and they don't play each other until the final, like how baseball used to work before Interleague.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
so here's a legitimate question: what's the most successful example of a european-style (pro/rel, single table, etc) league in a country where football isn't the most popular sport? J-League?

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
You can not compare the first 22 years of the other leagues in America, which were formed when the very concept of professional sports was new, to the MLS being 22 years old. That is horseshit

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
the idea behind pro/rel is to make sure there is a financial incentive to not perform badly, rather than the US system where awful teams, as long as attendance is fine, make just as much money and are actually rewarded by high draft picks (though the MLS draft is so bad that idk if that really matters here)

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
IMO setting up USL/NASL/whatever the hell as a functional second division is a reasonable 5-year goal. Getting a ladder for amateur teams to get there will take longer.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

mackintosh posted:

There's nothing wrong with the way your league is structured now. The issue isn't promotion and relegation. Your problems stem from non-existent youth development. Poland has an atrocious league, yet there are Poles playing for top and mid-level European clubs. Most of our talented youth simply bypasses the league structure entirely or leaves their senior teams soon after making their debuts. They're mostly scouted away while still playing for youth teams. We may never achieve anything in club football ever again, but paradoxically our academies are doing better than ever, and the national team reflects that.

good youth development requires a healthy lower division(s) and that might require p/r to happen


e) if anything the fact that our owners are at least rich enough to throw some money around might be a problem, see: US players getting big checks to play at home against awful competition while their skills atrophy. we might actually be better if our league was poor as poo poo

Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Oct 13, 2017

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Have Adu and Jozy fight to the death.

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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

wicka posted:

Mods, please update the thread title to include Italy.
https://twitter.com/nycguidovoice/status/841019810095931393

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