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Dirk Pitt posted:Lol that Klinsmann is being blamed. As if the 12 MLS guys over 30 playing yesterday would’ve done better with four years of Arena during the formative 26-30 years of age. At least the Germans Klinsmann brought in were good. Everything else he did to U.S. Soccer was recidivist. Who are they going to hire once Arena is fired? Or is that a discussion for after Gulati steals the next election? sportsgenius86 posted:Klinsmann's plan, per se, was a good one. Klinsmann's managerial tactics were dogshit and trying to pound a square peg into a round hole over and over again was an exercise in futility. That's exactly what the guy in his role has 4 years to do and is supposed to do. If MLS is the domestic league, he's supposed to throw his weight in at it. And they had the skills in 2014, but for some mysterious reason held back to dogshit play except for about an hour total of the 4 games, when they played like a real side.
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Jack2142 posted:I think the problem for US Soccer in alot of ways can be summarized as this I'd say more like 22 years, as long as MLS has been around. But it is stable, apparently makes money, yet stagnating quality-wise. It puts out a poo poo product. But that stability part can't be overestimated. To my thinking this failure is exactly what is required now. Niwrad posted:What's worse is having no one give a poo poo about any of the clubs. This is true and was what the N.Y. Cosmos were about, except they never got that giant TV deal because everything else was out of control. What Gulati and MLS are terrified of is the everything else part of NASL's history. You mentioned in the other thread that the league needs an oil billionaire to dump 100 mil into a team. If I recall correctly, that's the asking price for a new franchise just to enter the league. So they've got some big money hosses already. The deal now is they need to release the clubs from total hierarchical control, imo, let them spend more cash on world class players. I think it's sustainable.
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sportsgenius86 posted:You could make the greatest MLS team ever and it would still suck poo poo compared to a top flight Champions League team and anyone here who gives a gently caress would know that. Disagree. Soccer teams play intra-league tournaments all over their own continent, friendlies all over the world. The summer friendlies between MLS and big European clubs pack the big stadiums. It's one thing to watch the Bundesliga or Premiere League on TV, quite another to go see them irl.
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vyelkin posted:The solution to MLS problems is easy: get rid of all the rules making it like other American sports leagues and instead make it like every other football league. Promotion and relegation, no conferences, no salary cap, no league ownership, no playoffs, no draft system. This is retarded nonsense. Get rid of the entire American sports structure because hurr durr. The rest of the world have working relegation systems because they have 100+ years of supported clubs from the grass roots up. American sports have never done that. The closest thing to that is, duh the oldest organized sport in America, ⚾, and they have never considered it. A more reasonable hope would be that  bans handegg and those athaleats then migrate to footy...he said straight faced.
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wicka posted:No, get rid of it because it is provably not working for MLS, and it only works it closed systems that do not have to compete with other leagues. It's only 22 years old league, wicka. Check the other U.S. professional leagues and how they did. Relegation is not the cure-all, and realistically, if MLS requires $100 mil buy-in, it'll never happen. American sports are far more socialistic and egalitarian via labor unions than anything in Europe. And the NBA does compete with Euro leagues for players- talent wise, there's no contest and no point in intra-league play oh god I'm arguing with wicka.
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