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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I read gud Gobble Gobble Gobble everyone!
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Feliz Thanksgiving!
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Nov 24, 2017 01:07
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Jimmy Smits is a gift. I am also super happy every time Marc Evan Jackson is on screen. Kevin and Holt's relationship is always a highlight.
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Nov 24, 2017 01:20
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I enjoyed the mini-West Wing reunion with Bradley Whitford and Jimmy Smits. Having them as competing dads was amazing.
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Nov 24, 2017 02:12
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Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:I enjoyed the mini-West Wing reunion with Bradley Whitford and Jimmy Smits. Having them as competing dads was amazing. And Jimmy Smits/Katey Sagal is a mini Sons of Anarchy reunion 
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Nov 24, 2017 03:02
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Smog. Smaug. Smog! Smaug! SMOG! SMAUG! I love Jake and Terry nerding out over the Skyfire books.
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Nov 29, 2017 07:34
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"And you've been doing a great job for the past...15...or...40 years; I honestly can't tell how old you are."
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Nov 29, 2017 09:24
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The joke about Rosa looking like the protagonist of every steampunk series was great.
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Nov 29, 2017 16:46
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Died at the joke about the diversity panel
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Nov 29, 2017 20:04
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Davros1 posted:The joke about Rosa looking like the protagonist of every steampunk series was great. Complete with a table of cosplayers who actually did kinda look like her
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Nov 29, 2017 20:24
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I...hated this episode? I think this is the first episode of Brooklyn Nine-Nine that I just completely hated. Neither storyline worked and not a single joke landed for me. drat. 
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Nov 30, 2017 16:58
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We should all get summers off like teachers. Let the city go to purge.
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Dec 6, 2017 05:48
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I did love Amy attempting to be chill and easy-going
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Dec 6, 2017 06:42
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I always have one medical emergency. My prediction: Rosa's girlfriend is gonna be a lame Amy clone
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Dec 6, 2017 17:53
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"I hear they are into leather."
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Dec 6, 2017 18:07
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"You called the pigs on us?"
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Dec 7, 2017 04:56
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"We look so cool right now. I feel like we're in a Mervyn's commercial!" So many good things this episode (also the Captain's plot to keep from becoming Commissioner got WAY dark and awesome). I want to be happy for Rosa's character coming out, but it's going to be very hard to keep 'secretly bisexual' from being the explanation behind every single loving one of Rosa's character quirks from now on. I'm having real trouble thinking of any character trait of hers at all that was unique and doesn't have a clear explanation in terms of repressed homosexual desire. Fortunately the community of TV watchers who love LGBT+ characters seems 100% fine with them being complete stereotypes, so...have fun? teamcharlie fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Dec 7, 2017 22:16
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teamcharlie posted:"We look so cool right now. I feel like we're in a Mervyn's commercial!" I think it's just that Stephanie Beatriz came out as Bi so she worked with the writers to have Rosa more closely mirror her and what she brings to the character?
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Dec 7, 2017 22:33
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teamcharlie posted:"We look so cool right now. I feel like we're in a Mervyn's commercial!" Are closeted bisexuals known to be ultra paranoid to the point of having multiple apartments with different aliases? But yeah. That reveal felt really kinda flat. Klungar posted:I think it's just that Stephanie Beatriz came out as Bi so she worked with the writers to have Rosa more closely mirror her and what she brings to the character? Huh, nevermind then. That's really good for her and I am glad that the writers allow her to put so much of herself into her character.
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Dec 7, 2017 22:35
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Klungar posted:I think it's just that Stephanie Beatriz came out as Bi so she worked with the writers to have Rosa more closely mirror her and what she brings to the character? cant cook creole bream posted:Are closeted bisexuals known to be ultra paranoid to the point of having multiple apartments with different aliases? Cool, sure. And maybe next week they can reveal that Rosa Diaz' real name is actually Stephanie Beatriz and that she really wanted to work on a comedy TV show and was a fan of Lonely Island. The job of an actor is to play people different from themselves. That's what they get paid for. Neil Patrick Harris, for example, did a breakout performance in Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle as the straightest man in the world and revitalized his career. But coming out didn't suddenly mean that his character on How I Met Your Mother had to be secretly gay too because that would have made Barney much less interesting. It's wonderful that Beatriz can come out. I hope everybody who knows her supports her decision. And it's not like people who saw her stuff and have a functioning brain stem should either be surprised or upset by the fact that she isn't 100% heterosexual. But all Diaz coming out does is explain her character quirks in a boring way. Now she's butch because that's a traditional thing for an LGBT+ woman. Now she's secretive because living in a homophobic society encourages people to keep any homosexual sexual activity secret. Now she chooses ultra-masculine weird dudes to date, not necessarily because she's attracted to them, but because they act as a better smokescreen. It is a flat reveal, and unless it clearly has no impact on her development as a person (the audience would not buy that for a second), it also flattens out her character.
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Dec 7, 2017 23:13
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It seemed less like a flat moment, and more like a matter-of-fact confession to Charles. She's always been a secretive person. I doubt her sexuality had anything to do with it.
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Dec 8, 2017 02:17
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teamcharlie posted:I want to be happy for Rosa's character coming out, but it's going to be very hard to keep 'secretly bisexual' from being the explanation behind every single loving one of Rosa's character quirks from now on. I'm having real trouble thinking of any character trait of hers at all that was unique and doesn't have a clear explanation in terms of repressed homosexual desire.  teamcharlie posted:But all Diaz coming out does is explain her character quirks in a boring way. Now she's butch because that's a traditional thing for an LGBT+ woman. Now she's secretive because living in a homophobic society encourages people to keep any homosexual sexual activity secret. Now she chooses ultra-masculine weird dudes to date, not necessarily because she's attracted to them, but because they act as a better smokescreen.
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teamcharlie posted:Cool, sure. And maybe next week they can reveal that Rosa Diaz' real name is actually Stephanie Beatriz and that she really wanted to work on a comedy TV show and was a fan of Lonely Island. Sir, this is a Wendy's
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Dec 8, 2017 02:49
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Hey, as a bi woman myself yay to Stephanie for bringing more bi awareness/normalization to the world. (However, I am a bit sick of the "I'm Gay.""Oh, that's awesome!!! I'm here for you and totally ok with that!!" cause like yeah it's good people are shotgunned with "Being gay is totally ok and you're not a freak" messages, but I kinda feel we're at the point where we can fully normalize it, like instead someone (BOYLE) can be like "Oh? Ok, then what's her name?". Of course, being awkwardly sweet is a Boyle thing so he's ok. And how Rosa responded is totally in character for her, I feel.
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Dec 8, 2017 03:12
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teamcharlie posted:Now she chooses ultra-masculine weird dudes to date, not necessarily because she's attracted to them, but because they act as a better smokescreen. This is a messed up way of looking at any of this what the hell
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Dec 8, 2017 03:22
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I see two possibilities here: 1) That Rosa being bisexual will have absolutely no explanatory power whatsoever in regards to her hitherto unexplainable quirky behavior Or, 2) That it will begin to creep into most if not all explanations of her quirky behavior. Which seems more likely, given the current state of television? Anybody tried to watch Supergirl this last season or two?
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Dec 8, 2017 07:26
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Why the hell would being bi have any influence on 'quirky' behavior? People can be queer without it being a special thing. There's no reason to think the writers will somehow do that.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Why the hell would being bi have any influence on 'quirky' behavior? People can be queer without it being a special thing. There's no reason to think the writers will somehow do that. The first thing you say, that being bi or any other sexual orientation isn't a special thing, is totally true about the real world. But we're not talking about the real world here. We're talking about fiction. And there are innumerable examples of shows embracing gay stereotypes as hard as humanly possible. See: reality TV with gay people, Modern Family, the last season of Happy Endings (when Max, formerly straight-acting gay dude is turned 100% camp gay), Supergirl wherein every single way in which Supergirl's adoptive sister felt out of place or tried to act up got tied into her turning out to be a lesbian, et loving cetera. I really hope that the writers of Brooklyn Nine-Nine can keep it together and just keep Rosa the way she is while occasionally dating ladies. But I doubt it.
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Dec 8, 2017 09:15
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That is disheartening I guess that writers haven't gotten the victories out of their system?
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Dec 8, 2017 09:19
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teamcharlie posted:And there are innumerable examples of shows embracing gay stereotypes as hard as humanly possible.
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Dec 8, 2017 10:15
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Ah, yes. The leather-clad rear end-kicking motorcycle enthusiast bisexual woman. No stereotypes there. No sir! It's not like she's straight off the cover of a steampunk ladies' fiction novel or anything...
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Dec 8, 2017 10:41
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This is such a weird troll
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Dec 8, 2017 10:57
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Who cares? Not me, the OP of this here fine wendys drive thru
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Dec 8, 2017 11:10
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Maybe we should wait and see what actually happens with the character before assuming they’re going to immediately delve into the worst stereotypes, especially when, as mentioned, they’ve avoided that for a long time so far.
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Dec 8, 2017 12:06
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I mean, considering Stephanie is not Rosa, whining about how a "leather-clad rear end-kicking motorcycle enthusiast woman" is bi as a stereotype is pointless since it's just coincidental.
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Dec 8, 2017 13:58
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teamcharlie posted:Ah, yes. The leather-clad rear end-kicking motorcycle enthusiast bisexual woman. No stereotypes there. No sir! It's not like she's straight off the cover of a steampunk ladies' fiction novel or anything... I was not aware of this particular stereotype about bi people. You are beating on strawmen like crazy here, especially considering we have no idea where this particular plot thread is going. Also, way to poo poo all over Alex Danvers from Supergirl. As far as I've seen, she's been almost universally lauded as a standout role model of a character who normalizes being a lesbian. Like, how can anyone be so full of hate for no goddamn reason?
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Dec 8, 2017 15:33
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teamcharlie posted:Ah, yes. The leather-clad rear end-kicking motorcycle enthusiast bisexual woman. This isn't a thing tho? Like are you just making things up?
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Dec 8, 2017 18:19
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He's thinking of some porno where the lesbian realizes she likes dick
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teamcharlie posted:Ah, yes. The leather-clad rear end-kicking motorcycle enthusiast bisexual woman. No stereotypes there. No sir! It's not like she's straight off the cover of a steampunk ladies' fiction novel or anything... 
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