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Drunk Driver Dad posted:That completely slipped my mind. That was probably it. But I still was getting irritated by what I assume is automatic lock on. I was irritated by that as well, but you can disable it in the difficulty settings. I was skeptical about the combat early on, but now I like it a lot. It is a throwback to the clunky, slow, inertia based combat of Gothic, compared to the sleeker Risen 3 system, but it is much more forgiving about combos than Gothic ever was. The key thing is that you should only ever start attacking when your stamina is full, that way you can perform the special move without running out of steam before you get the prompt. Also increasing stamina seems to be more important than anything else.
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Phoix posted:This ends up being a really weird thing because I've played a ton now and all of the best weapons I've found have just been laying in someones closet or at the bottom of a well. I've never actually had to fight an enemy to get a weapon which makes the weapons seem kind of useless. That's the Gothic way.
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Oct 22, 2017 14:51
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BobbyBaudoin posted:How's the game so far. I never really enjoyed gothic combat but enjoyed the faction and how the game tackled its story. Feels like the combat is better handled in this one (tho i don't expect anything amazing either) It has a surprising lot of quests and character interactions for a Piranha Bytes game. That is not to say their previous games were devoid of that sort of stuff, but they were certainly more shallow and linear. The combat is quite good, it is simultaneously more forgiving than Gothic (you don't need to nail the timing to get combos), and more demanding (you can't kill poo poo without combos, which wasn't the case in Gothic). You also get permanent companions who aren't very good at dealing damage, but they are able to kite enemies while you hack at them, which makes combat less frustrating.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:59
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You get points of charisma for every skill point in the personality tree, the skill that says it gives you charisma gives you extra afaik, but it's not the only way to get your score up.
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Oct 22, 2017 23:29
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I'm incredulous about attributes not increasing stats on their own. I'm still running around with a stupid little hatchet, and I find the enemies have been getting easier despite the only combat related change to the PC being my attribute numbers.
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Oct 23, 2017 11:58
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The Lone Badger posted:Is there any more to combat than "it's a bad idea, don't do it." ? Don't try to attack things as soon as you have enough stamina for a single attack. Let your stamina fully replenish, and attack from a position where you can land as many hits in a combo as your stamina allows. Then use the last bit of stamina to land a Q special attack. The special attack does exponentially more damage based on the number of chained regular attacks - sometimes enough that an enemy who took no perceptible damage at all from single attacks loses 1/3 of HP in a single Q attack.
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Oct 23, 2017 13:03
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Well, you can avoid using stamina on dodging, you can walk out of the path of some enemies' attacks, with others you can jetpack over them until you get some stamina back. Also yeah, heavy attacks seem pointless.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:01
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The Clerics run the refugee camp for the outcasts and outlaws of all the other factions, but there may be Sinister MotivesTM behind their charity (I'm not far enough to know what comes out of it)
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So I've finally graduated to one of the unique weapons, specifically the one that converts all damage to electricity, and  I guess enemies' armor offers no protection from energy whatsoever
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Oct 24, 2017 08:16
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Pro-tip: Don't let companions teleport you to encounters unless you are really sure of your abilities.
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Oct 25, 2017 10:49
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I haven't joined a faction yet, and I'm already lvl 18 w/o any grinding.
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Oct 25, 2017 15:13
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That seems... ill thought out, since there's no way you can get all your stat points without basically swimming in elex drinks.
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Oct 27, 2017 18:09
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:So if I'm not really liking the whole combo system thing, can i just go straight ranged and still be okay? I have gone melee, and now I've found a special shotgun that I have no skills in, and it seems to be more powerful than my super expensive fully upgraded sword. So I guess yes. Though I also like the melee system, so I'm not going to switch. The ranged system is a rehashing of the musket interface from Risen 2-3, which was pretty bad, and only tolerable because it was easy to cheese combat sections of those games with it.
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Oct 28, 2017 19:17
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MiddleOne posted:Man everyone in the Domed ( I am sure the separatists are just looking for a place to stay. 
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Cam somebody please post how the Caja quest is supposed to end? I think it is bugged in my game, I'm virtually done with the story and the flag to progress it has still not fired.
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Oct 29, 2017 20:45
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Meatwolfe posted:It stopped for me after the second time she takes me to a world heart. Maybe the quest is tied to her approval or something. Well, I got her to idolized, and then even finished her relationship quest... So I don't think that's it.
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Oct 29, 2017 23:10
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Have you been to all the cities? I was around lvl 40 when I entered the final chapter, and most of that was from questing.
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Yeah, that was a tough one. Are you in a faction? Are you still in chapter 1?
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Oct 31, 2017 22:10
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MiddleOne posted:Oh my god and then the games figuratively drowns you in tens of thousands of XP as part of the converter assault quest. What in the actual gently caress, did no one playtest this game? Why's that bad? It's a major story quest. The main issue I would have is that they let you do the insane boss fight with Nasty before proceeding along the main quest line.
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Oh, you have to go through the Ulbricht Assault to get the Converter quests? I thought that was obtained independently from Separatists. In that case... yeah, that's suboptimal.
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Nov 1, 2017 08:32
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I don't think so. Now that I think of it, I don't believe there ever was any Piranha game that allowed you to obtain non-faction late game armor.
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Nov 4, 2017 08:48
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Armor values are anything but meaningless, though?
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Nov 4, 2017 23:51
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MiddleOne posted:Yes, you do get the choice between being wet tissue-paper and dry tissue-paper. Hugely important gameplay decision. By the end of the game I was relatively tanky.
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Nov 5, 2017 13:00
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To me it feels like Risen 1 with much more polish. The world has the usual PB feel and is as enjoyable to explore as any PB game. The combat is imho far superior to Risen, since I always thought the melee in that one was virtually impossible to use (it's the only game I can think of that takes input while the current animation is playing, and chains new animations to play after it, locking you into a long and ineffectual attack sequence if you press the attack button more than once). As for the story and characters... I guess that's individual preference. The Gothic games never were particularly deep, I think Elex is a step up, but I agree the Nameless Hero was better, just because of how earnest and chipper he was in comparison.
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the black husserl posted:I'd say Risen is 10x better than this game. All of the good and (mostly) none of the bad. I'd say it has the same world design philosophy as Gothic / Risen, but with jetpacks. The defining feature of old PB games was that the maps were very structured and constrained, making exploration more difficult, but also allowing a more satisfying placement of rewards. The same goes for Elex, imho, the only question is whether the jetpack allows you to circumvent the PB model to such an extent as to defeat it.
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Sweeper posted:so if I enjoyed elex, which other PB games should I play? Are all of them worth playing, which would you recommend first? Gothic 2 is their best, but it's going to be antiquated on many fronts, also it's probably even more punishing on early levels than Elex. As for Risen 1, well, I always thought the combat system was terrible even for PB. In contrast I think Risen 3 is the best in that franchise, despite the criticism it gets. It looks reasonably pretty enough, has the smoothest combat experience, and the most solid gameplay in general. But it's a much more action adventure sort of game compared to Gothic or even Elex, imo.
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I actually replayed Risen 3 recently. It's good, imo. The combat is pretty much the same as Elex without stamina. The story is perfunctory at best, but still not as bad as the storytelling abortion that was R2. As far as I'm concerned, all PB games stand or fall on exploration, and R3 is quite good for that, so on the balance it's definitely worth picking on the cheap at least.
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