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Shaddak posted:This may seem like an odd question for the thread but, any recommendations on Orthodox Metal bands? After following the last thread, it struck me that a lot of the Orthodox themes and imagery would be suited to metal bands. Maybe I'm imagining that. they do have t shirts though
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Those were both great recommendations. I really like the way Batushka worked those chants in.
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i just found a blogpost about why rod dreher sucks, enjoy http://illit.blogspot.de/2017/08/the-benedict-option-master-post.html Shaddak, i hope this music brings you closer to the Orthodox Faith
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cerror posted:Prayer rules: developing one's relationship with God, or tedious self-discipline grinding? depends if you are more of a challenge-mode arcade player vs an mmo/cellphone player Shaddak posted:This may seem like an odd question for the thread but, any recommendations on Orthodox Metal bands? After following the last thread, it struck me that a lot of the Orthodox themes and imagery would be suited to metal bands. Maybe I'm imagining that. it's not orthodox-specific but HM Magazine is the granddaddy Christian metal magazine
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is it ok to have any kind of trad or catechism-based beliefs here or is this exclusively for liberal christianity like the last thread got closed because one dude was just posting basic catechism stuff vis-a-vis- demons and that made a lot of people mad
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chernobyl kinsman posted:is it ok to have any kind of trad or catechism-based beliefs here or is this exclusively for liberal christianity Yes, it's okay. quote:like the last thread got closed because one dude was just posting basic catechism stuff vis-a-vis- demons and that made a lot of people mad Not sure that's why the last thread was closed, I think it had more to do with the slap-fighty tone.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:is it ok to have any kind of trad or catechism-based beliefs here or is this exclusively for liberal christianity Did You Know? when talking to people from other religions that sort of language ceciltron was using is considered inappropriate by the catholic church while you were studying the catechism i was studying contextual theologies including comparative theology/theology of religions and interreligious dialogue. i think all those dudes would consider me converting to be a failure on my part but really if the catholic church didn't want all queers to die maybe i'd still be catholic!
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senju i do not care about whatever weird eastern syncretist poo poo you're on this week
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chernobyl kinsman posted:is it ok to have any kind of trad or catechism-based beliefs here or is this exclusively for liberal christianity My favorite book on the subject is "An Exorcist tells his Story" by Fr. Gabriele Amorth, who worked as the vatican's chief exorcist. It's downright terrifying, and really quite sobering to the fact that we don't operate in a vacuum - our actions and those of others can draw the attentions of evil, and that poo poo is hard to clear up.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:is it ok to have any kind of trad or catechism-based beliefs here or is this exclusively for liberal christianity it's why i;m pro gay and pro trans
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HEY GAIL posted:my beliefs are extremely old, nothing under 1000 years lol
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chernobyl kinsman posted:senju i do not care about whatever weird eastern syncretist poo poo you're on this week why do you hate asian theologians also i'm not syncretist i'm buddhist
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although syncretism is good and cool. catholicism has a lot of syncretism but no one cares because plato and aristotle are more acceptable to europeans than confucius and mencius
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senju i don't care. i don't care, senju. i do not care.
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i'm not kidding. i think you'd better redefine the term "liberal," Bel_Canto's a Latin Mass catholic and he's super SUPER gay. I don't even think the Mass in the vernacular is valid for Catholics, sorry guys, although it doesn't matter to me anymore since I'm no longer Catholic. As far as I'm concerned you're all liberals, even him and Metternich.
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Ceciltron posted:My favorite book on the subject is "An Exorcist tells his Story" by Fr. Gabriele Amorth, who worked as the vatican's chief exorcist. It's downright terrifying, and really quite sobering to the fact that we don't operate in a vacuum - our actions and those of others can draw the attentions of evil, and that poo poo is hard to clear up. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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HEY GAIL posted:i'm not kidding. i think you'd better redefine the term "liberal," yeah im using it in the modern sense not the rigorous sense quote:Bel_Canto's a Latin Mass catholic and he's super SUPER gay. then he's either celibate, not receiving communion or receiving it illictly, lol quote:I don't even think the Mass in the vernacular is valid for Catholics, sorry guys i agree
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chernobyl kinsman posted:senju i don't care. i don't care, senju. i do not care. so i guess i'll add "asians" to the list of "people chernobyl kinsman doesn't care about" along with lgbt people got any opinions on black liberation? maybe on mestizo theology?
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senju stop talking to me. stop talking to me, senju. stop.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:is it ok to have any kind of trad or catechism-based beliefs here or is this exclusively for liberal christianity yeah this isn't offensive or trolly at all 
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chernobyl kinsman posted:then he's either celibate, not receiving communion or receiving it illictly, lol why do you hate gay people. did a pride parade scare you as a child?
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Senju Kannon posted:why do you hate gay people. did a pride parade scare you as a child? that is literally the position of the roman catholic church and my personal opinion does not come into it. it's one of the three.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:senju stop talking to me. stop talking to me, senju. stop. why do you not want to engage a crazy tranny who thinks you're okay with dead children as long as they're the wrong sexual orientation?
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chernobyl kinsman posted:then he's either celibate, not receiving communion or receiving it illictly, lol
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chernobyl kinsman posted:that is literally the position of the roman catholic church and my personal opinion does not come into it. it's one of the three. so you hate gay people because the church says so. way to exercise your personal conscience there, chernobyl klansman
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HEY GAIL posted:that's between him and his spiritual director, this poking your nose into whom an adult man (of, I assume, decent social status? he's in college so let's say gentleman) chooses to gently caress is very 19th century, I can tell you right now half the people I study would barely care. i deeply dont care who he fucks or what he does with his life or whatever (and i agree with the thread's consensus, before it was closed because one guy said "pagan poo poo is not christian", that the obsession with sexuality is largely a 19th century artifact), but there's a limit to how trad you can claim to be while also ignoring church doctrine
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chernobyl kinsman posted:senju stop talking to me. stop talking to me, senju. stop. All you have to do is put them on ignore. It's a magic little button that stops you from seeing their posts.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i deeply dont care who he fucks or what he does with his life or whatever, but there's a limit to how trad you can claim to be while also ignoring church doctrine but trads are defined by ignoring church doctrine. why can you ignore the second vatican council when the church has the right to call ecumenical councils together but not ignore teachings on sexuality that conclusively lead to dead children?
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Slimy Hog posted:All you have to do is put them on ignore. It's a magic little button that stops you from seeing their posts. they're just giving me permission to shitpost at them since they've made it clear they hate it
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Lutha Mahtin posted:yeah this isn't offensive or trolly at all like my first draft of this post was just "gently caress you". this is because you (i.e. chernobyl kinsman) are a serious piece of poo poo if you think the term "catechism based" only refers to your (possibly heretical) brand of Catholicism and doesn't have hugely bigoted and arrogant implications across wide swaths of Christianity outside of your narrow pseudo-intellectual bubble
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Senju Kannon posted:while you were studying the catechism i was studying contextual theologies including comparative theology/theology of religions and interreligious dialogue. While you were studying comparative theology I studied the blade. Or the pike if you're HEY GAIL
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Senju Kannon posted:so you hate gay people because the church says so. way to exercise your personal conscience there, chernobyl klansman friend my personal conscience doesn't come into it because i'm not the one who gets to decide whether one's communion is licit or illicit. if you're living in sin, as defined by the catholic church, then your communion is illicit (and a further sin), as defined by the catholic church if you dont care then whatever, i dont care if you dont care
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chernobyl kinsman posted:friend my personal conscience doesn't come into it because i'm not the one who gets to decide whether one's communion is licit or illicit. if you're living in sin, as defined by the catholic church, then your communion is illicit (and a further sin), as defined by the catholic church quoting unedited post for shame/posterity
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i dont care Cool. So can we stop this lovely conversation so our thread doesn't get locked again?
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Lutha Mahtin posted:quoting unedited post for shame/posterity is this a new concept for you or like what's up
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chernobyl kinsman posted:is this a new concept for you or like what's up do you really see nothing wrong with that awful post
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Lutha Mahtin posted:do you really see nothing wrong with that awful post not doctrinally no, i can't speak for your moral position
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i woulda studied the blade but there's no kendo school near me and the iaido school makes me uncomfortable because they teach a wwii style that was taught to officers and i'm not gonna learn techniques that were probably used to butcher chinese and korean women and children and american gis I GUESSchernobyl kinsman posted:friend my personal conscience doesn't come into it because i'm not the one who gets to decide whether one's communion is licit or illicit. if you're living in sin, as defined by the catholic church, then your communion is illicit (and a further sin), as defined by the catholic church there a reason you're externalizing responsibility for making a value judgment on this? like you seem to be placing this outside of the realm of personal responsibility. the question isn't so much "does the church teach this" but "is it right that the church teaches this" and you're answering the first question when that's not the main issue, it's the second question that's important. this is why i consider a lot of conservative theologies to be intellectually bankrupt; rather than seeking to advise the church in what should or should not be, they merely repeat what the church teaches like a parrot or attempt to offer flimsy justifications for what has already been taught. this was especially common post vatican i when neo-scholasticism was common and the intellectual tradition of the church was lost in favor of re-phrasing the same ideas that aquinas had without quite realizing that the brilliance of aquinas was that he was considered a heretic at the time. theologians and lay people who are satisfied with the church saying something and never questioning it are the same people who would sit idly by while their jewish neighbors were sent to ghettos and camps. obeying authority is not a virtue if the authority is not virtuous. even confucius and mencius, who advocated for central authoritarian governments, knew that if a king is bad then the people have the right to remove the king. if the teachings of the church are bad isn't that evidence that the church has moved beyond what god's inspiration allows for? things have changed before; they'll change again. why do you people pretend like sexuality and gender won't when the church's teachings on them already have?
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