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Serf
May 5, 2011


Annual Prophet posted:

personally i wish for the reboot they’d ditched the existing storyline (and actors) and done something new set in a much earlier (or later) era a la kotor; there would still be the compelling setting, but the narrative possibilities would have been a lot more open ended

droid uprising or bust

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Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Taintrunner posted:

the new struggle session is fun if you’re sick of the Disney Star Wars

It's really good, though I think Disney nuked the EU not so much because they want control over the narrative, but more because they want to clear the decks for content they get royalties off of. It's almost worth it to purge the dumb poo poo out of the EU cannon tho.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one filled with rage by the Force Awakens and bitterly disappointed by the total lack of imagination in the latest generation of Star Wars games :unsmith: .

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

it took a month or two for me to really resent force awakens. my initial reaction was, well at least it didn't suck. it was ok.

the thought that anyone could genuinely think it was good though is insane.

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



I liked the characters and most of the visuals but it's structurally kind of a clusterfuck, in no small part because JJ has no idea what pacing is.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

it took a month or two for me to really resent force awakens. my initial reaction was, well at least it didn't suck. it was ok.

the thought that anyone could genuinely think it was good though is insane.

The first half-hour is fun. I don't even mind the space My Lai stuff because a storm trooper having second thoughts is an interesting story arc. The rest of it turns into a loving slog though. loving :lol: at Leia being Space Hillary Clinton.

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

it took a month or two for me to really resent force awakens. my initial reaction was, well at least it didn't suck. it was ok.

the thought that anyone could genuinely think it was good though is insane.

I feel the same way. There isn't even anything like viscerally weird to hate it for, like how some people view the prequels (the creepy romance subplot, Jar Jar, what-have-you). It's just such a bland Disney-brand product.

And expect more of this kind of poo poo when Disney does acquire Fox. They'll throw the X-Men and Fantastic Four back into their rotating line-up of Iron Man sequels and remakes, while making sure we get a new Alien and Predator movie every year!

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
Disney ruining every pop culture property will lead the way to the glorious reboot of the Dune extended universe. :unsmigghh:

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan
WB, cross over the DC movies with the Legendary Godzilla movies.

Superman vs. Godzilla. Batman v. King Kong.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Nothus posted:

The first half-hour is fun. I don't even mind the space My Lai stuff because a storm trooper having second thoughts is an interesting story arc. The rest of it turns into a loving slog though. loving :lol: at Leia being Space Hillary Clinton.

the actual best star wars thing ive ever read is a short comic about a nameless stormtrooper about to go on a boarding mission, and its all just his internal monologue about how terrified he is and how hosed this all is and how if he just gets through this mission hes deserting

and every step of the way hes amazed at the fact that he's defied the odds and lived a little longer and he's more and more sure that he's going to take the gently caress off tomorrow

and then princess leia shoots him in the face because it's actually the opening of new hope

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
That sounds amazing. What's it called?

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Nothus posted:

That sounds amazing. What's it called?

i dont remember, but its in this star wars anthology comic from like the early 90s, if i get a chance tonight i'll dig it up

edit it took way less time than i expected, its from Star Wars Tales #10, Trooper, by Garth Ennis and John McCrea, an absolute powerhouse team

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

i dont remember, but its in this star wars anthology comic from like the early 90s, if i get a chance tonight i'll dig it up

edit it took way less time than i expected, its from Star Wars Tales #10, Trooper, by Garth Ennis and John McCrea, an absolute powerhouse team



Hell yeah.

Nothus has issued a correction as of 14:54 on Dec 3, 2017

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Nothus posted:

The first half-hour is fun. I don't even mind the space My Lai stuff because a storm trooper having second thoughts is an interesting story arc. The rest of it turns into a loving slog though. loving :lol: at Leia being Space Hillary Clinton.

The point I realized something was seriously wrong with Force Awakens is when they get to Maz Kanata's bar. I mean, Maz Kanata is just the worst character in the entire movie, but also Rey rejecting her calling as a Jedi to the Force is just weird and off-putting.

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

with the original, the refusal of the call was an effective evocation of the monomyth; in tfa it’s just a mediocre reskin

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Annual Prophet posted:

with the original, the refusal of the call was an effective evocation of the monomyth; in tfa it’s just a mediocre reskin

Plus in the original Luke had a decent life on Uncle Owen's moisture farm. It wasn't great, but he had a family that cared about him and he was living free. The Empire massacring his aunt and uncle are what pushes him into answering the call. Both of his motivations are relatable.

On the other hand, Rey lives as a scavenger exposed to the elements with no loved ones for as long as she can remember. She initially answers the call because she's being attacked by the First Order, but rejects it later for personal reasons that aren't explained at all by the movie because they're cynically concealing her backstory for sequel bait. It loving blows.

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

i dont remember, but its in this star wars anthology comic from like the early 90s, if i get a chance tonight i'll dig it up

edit it took way less time than i expected, its from Star Wars Tales #10, Trooper, by Garth Ennis and John McCrea, an absolute powerhouse team

I have a couple of the trades, which includes that story. It was cool because the whole premise was they weren't tied down to any sort of canon and could do whatever.

Edit: Didn't it have a lot of first-person bits where poo poo is framed and obscured by his helmet?

Mecha Gojira has issued a correction as of 11:01 on Dec 3, 2017

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Mecha Gojira posted:

I have a couple of the trades, which includes that story. It was cool because the whole premise was they weren't tied down to any sort of canon and could do whatever.

Edit: Didn't it have a lot of first-person bits where poo poo is framed and obscured by his helmet?

Like 90% sure it did yeah

Like I said, it's Garth "I'm real good at war comics" Ennis and John McCrea aka a dope artist who went on to do Hitman and I think the demon with him

It's a sick team for a ten page story or whatever

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I subscribed to Struggle Session on Patreon, and episode 21 with Blair Erickson is excruciating to listen to. The guy's a self-described libertarian socialist who thinks that bitcoin is somehow going to take down capitalism.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
well, I mean, it technically is going to take down capitalism, because when the speculative bubble pops its most likely going to start a market crash

sort of like a suicide bomber

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I subscribed to Struggle Session on Patreon, and episode 21 with Blair Erickson is excruciating to listen to. The guy's a self-described libertarian socialist who thinks that bitcoin is somehow going to take down capitalism.

I mean

What

Like left libertarianism is technically a thing even if nobody who fits the bill uses the term anymore but then Bitcoin is just unrestrained capitalism

This makes no sense

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

rudatron posted:

well, I mean, it technically is going to take down capitalism, because when the speculative bubble pops its most likely going to start a market crash

sort of like a suicide bomber

A market crash in bitcoin isn't going to affect the wider economy much in the same way the original dotcom bubble burst didn't. Finance capital just isn't that invested into it. It's a purely speculative gamble for morons, child pornographers, and drug dealers.


BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I mean

What

Like left libertarianism is technically a thing even if nobody who fits the bill uses the term anymore but then Bitcoin is just unrestrained capitalism

This makes no sense

You can tell the guy's never read Marx or even watched a youtube video explaining what capitalism means, because he does the thing right wing libertarians do where they conflate money and value with capital. He seems to think that everybody switching to bitcoin will somehow devalue the wealth of capitalists, but if that was the case then all of their capital assets will just be revalued in bitcoins instead of dollars. None of the hosts give any pushback on this, and I don't expect Hollywood and video game nerds to know everything about bitcoin or Marxism but come on.

It gets much better when they start talking about how sleazy and rapey Hollywood is.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Leslie Lee not knowing anything is surprising and also a bummer

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I'm not saying that any of the hosts for sure don't know anything, but that they don't push back at all on their guest who thinks bitcoin is capitalism's silver bullet. Leslie Lee does say that Banshee Chapter is his new favorite horror movie though, which makes all of his other opinions suspect. I watched it because of that episode, and it's a very competently done found footage horror movie - but the ending is bullshit because it doesn't make sense for reasons I'd have to spoil the plot to explain.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'm not saying that any of the hosts for sure don't know anything, but that they don't push back at all on their guest who thinks bitcoin is capitalism's silver bullet. Leslie Lee does say that Banshee Chapter is his new favorite horror movie though, which makes all of his other opinions suspect. I watched it because of that episode, and it's a very competently done found footage horror movie - but the ending is bullshit because it doesn't make sense for reasons I'd have to spoil the plot to explain.

Please don't because I'm about to do a movie podcast and a competently done found footage movie with a poo poo ending is ins anely in our wheelhouse

Also if your fave modern horror movie isn't the Creep series just get out now

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

Gonna revive a dead thread and recommend Inward Empire. It's far more historically accurate than HH and one episode in particular deals with a general strike that I had no idea about from 1877, which even briefly resulted in a St. Louis commune much like in Paris. Naturally this had the outcome of bringing about the first Red Scare in U.S. history

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


Trillbillies come back. :(

Metal Cat
Dec 25, 2017
Since this wasn't mentioned, apparently Redneck Revolt has (had?) a podcast. There's only two episodes and the last one was uploaded in September, so I don't know if they're gonna continue it, but given that they're still fairly active on Twitter/Facebook, it might just be a hiatus. Episode 2 in particular has some interesting stuff about Charlottesville.

https://www.redneckrevolt.org/podcast

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Maybe one of the Trillbilly folks could be a guest on Mic Dicta, but 1 month is a holiday break, 2 months is a hiatus.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

trillbillies was like listening to jesse plemons' and connie britton's characters in friday night lights talk to me about exploitation and i was so loving into it

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
are there any standout episodes of streetfight to start with or should I just losten to the recent ones?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Finicums Wake posted:

are there any standout episodes of streetfight to start with or should I just losten to the recent ones?

In the last few there was an hour of Bryan talking with his daughter about modern culture and it's loving fascinating.

I haven't gone back much in the archives but if there's more of that, listen to it.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Aliquid posted:

In the last few there was an hour of Bryan talking with his daughter about modern culture and it's loving fascinating.

I haven't gone back much in the archives but if there's more of that, listen to it.

Apparently they've only done one other one but this one rules

Iridium
Apr 4, 2002

Wretched Harp
https://twitter.com/Mic_Dicta/status/952325646990102528

alright, hopping on this one then.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Apparently they've only done one other one but this one rules

the kid episodes are great because bryan makes fun of his teen girl for being a nerd who doesn't like cusses

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Anyone mention The Dollop yet? It's not a leftist politics podcast, but any episode on how terrible America is/was or the incredible evils of Capitalism are really good.

The Enron and Opium in the US episodes are perfect examples.

New New Fresh
May 26, 2013

MonsieurChoc posted:

Anyone mention The Dollop yet? It's not a leftist politics podcast, but any episode on how terrible America is/was or the incredible evils of Capitalism are really good.

The Enron and Opium in the US episodes are perfect examples.

The Uber episode also rules if you have a couple hours to kill.

And yeah, seconding Mic Dicta as a fun podcast to listen to.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

the bitcoin of weed posted:

the kid episodes are great because bryan makes fun of his teen girl for being a nerd who doesn't like cusses

yeah it's really my favorite episode and i always enjoy the 3-hour-long call-ins for some reason

bryan is the total opposite of my dad and i can see how that manifests in how kids turn out

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


how dead is this thread because uh

https://twitter.com/thetrillbillies/status/960325281113366528

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


About loving time

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sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

hell yes

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