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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

discourse collective has exiled Markus from The Dictatorship of the Teen. I expect him to start posting about how Celery is as bad as the Nazis.

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Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan
Markus appears to have gone completely radio silent. Haven't seen him post here or on Twitter since this poo poo blew up.

Sucks the dude sucks, but I know the pod can go on without him.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

Holy poo poo on this weeks bodega boys, it's episode 88. Desus goes "the heil Hitler edition."

bitmap
Aug 8, 2006

hey whoever put "burning cop car" in the sheet: :hellyeah:

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

war nerd unlocked the episode about John's Iliad book

https://twitter.com/TheWarNerd/status/930463904957894656

it's pretty loving metal from the sound of it

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I'm definitely picking it up for Christmas

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Mecha Gojira posted:

Markus appears to have gone completely radio silent. Haven't seen him post here or on Twitter since this poo poo blew up.

Sucks the dude sucks, but I know the pod can go on without him.

I remember Markus was one of the anti-DSA partisans during the fentonte drama.

It seems to always be dudes with skeletons in their closets that protest the hardest.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

Dreddout posted:

I remember Markus was one of the anti-DSA partisans during the fentonte drama.

It seems to always be dudes with skeletons in their closets that protest the hardest.

Markus was easily the most annoying member of DC. I got the vibe that he was a 30 something dude hanging with college kids. I have no idea if that's accurate at all but I really didn't care for him.

So to then find out he's the wife emailer was confirmation and I hope he doesn't try to steal my wife.

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

Markus was easily the most annoying member of DC. I got the vibe that he was a 30 something dude hanging with college kids. I have no idea if that's accurate at all but I really didn't care for him.

So to then find out he's the wife emailer was confirmation and I hope he doesn't try to steal my wife.

That's basically what he was, the weird slightly older (late 20's, early 30's) dude hanging out with the Dictatorship of the Teen.

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
Also his voice was super annoying too, so I can't say I'll miss his contributions

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The craziest thing is Markus was openly talking about the wife email in the DC discord a couple months ago, and of course made no secret about who he was here on SA. I mean, how moronic do you have to be to assume nobody's ever going to connect the dots across platforms?

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
The latest Dollop on Trump is good. Everyone knows that he's a scumbag, but to hear it all comprehensively laid out there is remarkable.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

Nothus posted:

The latest Dollop on Trump is good. Everyone knows that he's a scumbag, but to hear it all comprehensively laid out there is remarkable.

It's so long though.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Wait, wife emailer was a goon? What username

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan

rudatron posted:

Wait, wife emailer was a goon? What username

Something hilariously ironic like Loving Life Partner.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

rudatron posted:

Wait, wife emailer was a goon? What username

This is the thread about his adventures in stealing wives, or trying to

Turns out he was a fairly regular c-spam poster until recently lmao

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Hey the new Citations Needed is about how hosed up and white real estate coverage is, I haven’t checked it out yet but it sounds a lot more interesting than weird interpersonal drama

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan

Taintrunner posted:

Hey the new Citations Needed is about how hosed up and white real estate coverage is, I haven’t checked it out yet but it sounds a lot more interesting than weird interpersonal drama

Actually, their newest episode is about how editorial boards at the major "liberal" newspapers basically exist to perpetuate the status quo, which includes our favorite Forever War.

Both very good episodes, though. A+ would recommend. The settler colonial language that's used when discussing urban environments in which people already live is loving disgusting and haunting.

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




Mecha Gojira posted:

Actually, their newest episode is about how editorial boards at the major "liberal" newspapers basically exist to perpetuate the status quo, which includes our favorite Forever War.

Both very good episodes, though. A+ would recommend. The settler colonial language that's used when discussing urban environments in which people already live is loving disgusting and haunting.

indeed.

hmm
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonnyc/status/931018323843788801

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Mecha Gojira posted:

Actually, their newest episode is about how editorial boards at the major "liberal" newspapers basically exist to perpetuate the status quo, which includes our favorite Forever War.

Both very good episodes, though. A+ would recommend. The settler colonial language that's used when discussing urban environments in which people already live is loving disgusting and haunting.

The white guy yelling at hipsters because he "settled the neighborhood for them" in New York loving City is incredibly bizarre and disturbing.

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
That real state episode was great.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The white guy yelling at hipsters because he "settled the neighborhood for them" in New York loving City is incredibly bizarre and disturbing.

It's the kind of thing you know a lot of gentrifiers are thinking but extremely few would ever dare say it out loud.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Mecha Gojira posted:

Actually, their newest episode is about how editorial boards at the major "liberal" newspapers basically exist to perpetuate the status quo, which includes our favorite Forever War.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mecha Gojira posted:

Both very good episodes, though. A+ would recommend. The settler colonial language that's used when discussing urban environments in which people already live is loving disgusting and haunting.
This episode is fantastic. The hosts suggest Neil Smith's The New Urban Frontier for further reading, and I can't recommend it enough to those who are interested in the subject. The ep pulls a lot from the first couple chapters, but the book goes on to explore the structures of power and coercion that real estate bullshit is meant to obscure. The use of language discussed in the episode is distressing enough, but the conclusion Smith arrives at is that gentrification in many ways is a project by economic and political elites to take revenge on poor people who inconvenienced capitalism by living in rundown neighborhoods. Really nasty stuff.

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan
I was thinking about it the other day, and in the Editorial Board episode, they actually literally quote the 60's New York Times article that partly inspired Phil Ochs' "Love Me, I'm a Liberal." Specifically the part where the NYT claims to love black celebrities, but will attack any one of them if they dare to question US Hegemony or Imperialism.

quote:

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

And then of course tied it directly to what we see now with the ostracization of Kaepernick. This rot runs deep and it's been around forever.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

i got the street fight spooktober satanism zine today and it rules give these boys your :10bux:

https://twitter.com/StreetFightWCRS/status/930815226316034048

SEX HAVER 40000
Aug 6, 2009

no doves fly here lol
Those good street fight bous send me a.cool zine and a baggie of kratom every month and boy is it worth it

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

didn’t see this one linked

https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com

Mr. Belding
May 19, 2006
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:

This is the thread about his adventures in stealing wives, or trying to

Turns out he was a fairly regular c-spam poster until recently lmao

Who would have thought. None of this is his fault it’s all because other people messed up.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
The latest installment of Clash! is much improved over previous episodes. Carl must have invested in a better mic and mixer setup, or learned to use what he had to better effect because you can actually hear and understand the conversation. The latest guest is also a RWN alum, Richard Kim, who does a great job talking about Korean historiography and early history of the polities that would become Korea.

Also Carl is getting better at wrangling the conversation to stay on topic despite the clueless asides of his co-host.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




can someone give me a wee primer on Season of the Bitch? I’ve seen people promote it on Twitter but then again I’ve also seen other people complain that it’s too dry (like Citations Needed in this regard, but that’s more a polemic than a podcast in my mind)

Amergin
Jan 29, 2013

THE SOUND A WET FART MAKES

Troy Queef posted:

can someone give me a wee primer on Season of the Bitch? I’ve seen people promote it on Twitter but then again I’ve also seen other people complain that it’s too dry (like Citations Needed in this regard, but that’s more a polemic than a podcast in my mind)

I would say it's dry in that they stay on topic for the most part in most episodes, but they tend to have multiple guests, tend to give guests plenty of time to discuss the topic, there are usually three to four hosts present along with the guests and from what I've listened to (only gotten through about half the episodes so far) they focus more on experiences than theory (though they don't necessarily ignore theory). So I would say they're not as dry as Citations Needed (but I don't find them dry either so YMMV) because they focus on their own experiences and the experiences of their guests. But they're not like Chapo or Trillbillies where the discussions can kinda meander about, and SotB is not trying to be a comedy podcast in any case.

I would say go to their second-to-latest episode about women of color in academia to get a good idea of their format.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Amergin posted:

I would say it's dry in that they stay on topic for the most part in most episodes, but they tend to have multiple guests, tend to give guests plenty of time to discuss the topic, there are usually three to four hosts present along with the guests and from what I've listened to (only gotten through about half the episodes so far) they focus more on experiences than theory (though they don't necessarily ignore theory). So I would say they're not as dry as Citations Needed (but I don't find them dry either so YMMV) because they focus on their own experiences and the experiences of their guests. But they're not like Chapo or Trillbillies where the discussions can kinda meander about, and SotB is not trying to be a comedy podcast in any case.

I would say go to their second-to-latest episode about women of color in academia to get a good idea of their format.

can you rec a different one because I give negative shits about academia and professors

Serf
May 5, 2011


my favorite part of an economic update episode is when wolff finds a way to turn the entire discussion to worker co-ops. it unironically owns

Amergin
Jan 29, 2013

THE SOUND A WET FART MAKES

Troy Queef posted:

can you rec a different one because I give negative shits about academia and professors

Sex work and solidarity, then?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Serf posted:

my favorite part of an economic update episode is when wolff finds a way to turn the entire discussion to worker co-ops. it unironically owns

I do like Richard Wolff and making it easier for workers to own their own enterprises is a positive and realistic goal for the American left, but co-ops still have to operate according to capitalist rules and logic.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I do like Richard Wolff and making it easier for workers to own their own enterprises is a positive and realistic goal for the American left, but co-ops still have to operate according to capitalist rules and logic.

yeah, they've always struck me as, at best, a half-measure. but the idea is still pretty radical to most people, and it gets em thinking about the idea of democratizing the workplace. so in that sense, its cool to talk about.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I do like Richard Wolff and making it easier for workers to own their own enterprises is a positive and realistic goal for the American left, but co-ops still have to operate according to capitalist rules and logic.
Post-ussr, if you ever want a real socialist revolution, you're going to have to make a case to the people that it's practically possible, that democratic ownership is viable and competitive - and coops are a vehicle to do that. If you can't prove that you can 'bring home the bacon', you'll never win.

Iridium
Apr 4, 2002

Wretched Harp

Troy Queef posted:

can you rec a different one because I give negative shits about academia and professors

i liked this one, or rather, the interview with some of the older DSA women in the second half. good poo poo. though they also include several minutes of a 5 year old telling jokes which seemed a bit out of place and weird.

https://soundcloud.com/seasonofthebitch/intergenerational-organizing

i listened to SotB for a while when it started but yeah, 'dry' is probably a good descriptor. the info they present is interesting and i don't want to hate on it, but given that i tend to listen to podcasts to alleviate a miserable commute, it just didn't fit in for me. my assumption was that they were still new and that with a little practice they'd find a natural rhythm and it'd come together better... actually, now that trillbillies is on hiatus, i should give them another shot.

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I do like Richard Wolff and making it easier for workers to own their own enterprises is a positive and realistic goal for the American left, but co-ops still have to operate according to capitalist rules and logic.

is the issue here merely the presence of the market? imagine an economy comprising only individual proprietors who own their productive assets (looms, lathes, etc.), and are subject to a 100% estate tax; there is by definition no exploitation, because there is no expropriation of surplus value from any participant, but instead each consumes a level of use values determined by that participant, and correspondingly each may elect to produce more goods for exchange or fewer ones. would that still be a flawed model? just trying to flesh out the objection here.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I know that worker co-ops already currently exist IRL, but do they operate at a "natural" disadvantage to regular capitalist enterprise? I keep thinking that of course a sweatshop is going to produce at a lower cost via externalities and worker exploitation.

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