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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Harris wanted to be a respectable mass shooter.

Actually he wanted to be a bomber but he hosed it up

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Anyway DiscoColle is hit or miss as hell. I like their theory stuff because I have a hard time reading boring rear end books but am interested in theory, and some of their culture episodes are good. The Harry Potter one slaps.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Season 2 of DiscoColle Theory started today, on Anarchism

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Relin posted:

cum town is not that left wing, though i do love them

nick has some problematic views on unions

Nick is mostly just intensely problematic

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Oh poo poo and they did an episode about Priests Black Panther run before this

Gives me an excuse to move it up on my list I guess

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

They ignored how the Star Wars Extended Universe was filled with a ton of stupid poo poo, and Disney had a reasonable cause to try and exercise quality control. But then they made Force Awakens exactly like a badly written EU story anyway, so they cut out the biggest draw that maintained their franchise's fanbase for nothing.

It's good to hear somebody else say that KOTOR 2 is the best Star Wars though.

Bring in the Yuuzhan Vong imo

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Also I'm listening to cum town and I want to hear their Christmas album

Dreidel dreidel dreidel
I hosed my dad I'm gay

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Dreddout posted:

Lmao if you care about the expanded universe of anything.

It's all fiction, and the fiction still exists so what does Disney's canon matter?

Ughhhhhhh

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Dreddout posted:

Narrative causality in the age of multimedia behemoths is a farce

Shut uuuuuuup

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
The worst part is Jason Aaron not getting to write his comic about Stormtroopers coming for Yoda and basically it's predator but Yoda is the predator

Also Skippy the Jedi Droid and that one Ennis comic about the stormtrooper Leia kills at the beginning of New Hope aren't canon anymore and that sucks

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

wizard on a water slide posted:

if the stories exist in the world and have value to you, why do you need the validation of a canon

bitch i do comic books my relationship with canon is immensely complex in that i recognize canon as being important and i like for things i like to be Officially Real and Recognized and able to be referenced but also i know it's all bullshit

also

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Canon is important because it's something that a greater mythology can be built upon. If you declare something to be non-canon, then it can never be alluded to ever again, regardless of how much people like it. The issue isn't that Disney can somehow wipe out all those existing stories or the enjoyment of them, the issue is that they're smothering what used to be a living franchise. It's what the Struggle Session guys mean when they say that the Star Wars universe used to feel huge, but now feels tiny. A literal entire galaxy of possibilities have been cut out because the people who own the franchise - not its creators - think they're exercising quality control. Yet they're not even delivering quality storytelling. They're exploiting what they think people loved about Star Wars, and it's not going to last forever.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
again my primary Thing is a medium that has for decades been defined by a willingness to alter its own history to suit a story

the difference is that comics very rarely just go "actually this whole time span didn't happen eat poo poo fuckos" instead of explaining why ACTUALLY this is what REALLY happened

also there's a literal universal mechanism in DC that explains how different stories are canon at different times, it rules hard

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

TomViolence posted:

this is why the mad max universe is the best cinematic universe

Doesn't hurt that it's a uniquely singular vision either, with Miller writing and directing all of them

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Dreddout posted:

I'm sorry you decided to waste your time investing in something that is really just justification for perpetual franchises. :shrug:


It's this, you can like franchises, but they're pretty much the most commodified form of story telling.

Or it's a natural bypeoduct of decades of stories with an eye towards people reading them over a long period of time instead of cycling in and out every couple years but I mean Whatever

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Also I literally said that I completely understand that canon is bullshit

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pssst it's literally the thing I said wrt comics actually

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Nothus posted:

The first half-hour is fun. I don't even mind the space My Lai stuff because a storm trooper having second thoughts is an interesting story arc. The rest of it turns into a loving slog though. loving :lol: at Leia being Space Hillary Clinton.

the actual best star wars thing ive ever read is a short comic about a nameless stormtrooper about to go on a boarding mission, and its all just his internal monologue about how terrified he is and how hosed this all is and how if he just gets through this mission hes deserting

and every step of the way hes amazed at the fact that he's defied the odds and lived a little longer and he's more and more sure that he's going to take the gently caress off tomorrow

and then princess leia shoots him in the face because it's actually the opening of new hope

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Nothus posted:

That sounds amazing. What's it called?

i dont remember, but its in this star wars anthology comic from like the early 90s, if i get a chance tonight i'll dig it up

edit it took way less time than i expected, its from Star Wars Tales #10, Trooper, by Garth Ennis and John McCrea, an absolute powerhouse team

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Mecha Gojira posted:

I have a couple of the trades, which includes that story. It was cool because the whole premise was they weren't tied down to any sort of canon and could do whatever.

Edit: Didn't it have a lot of first-person bits where poo poo is framed and obscured by his helmet?

Like 90% sure it did yeah

Like I said, it's Garth "I'm real good at war comics" Ennis and John McCrea aka a dope artist who went on to do Hitman and I think the demon with him

It's a sick team for a ten page story or whatever

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I subscribed to Struggle Session on Patreon, and episode 21 with Blair Erickson is excruciating to listen to. The guy's a self-described libertarian socialist who thinks that bitcoin is somehow going to take down capitalism.

I mean

What

Like left libertarianism is technically a thing even if nobody who fits the bill uses the term anymore but then Bitcoin is just unrestrained capitalism

This makes no sense

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Leslie Lee not knowing anything is surprising and also a bummer

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'm not saying that any of the hosts for sure don't know anything, but that they don't push back at all on their guest who thinks bitcoin is capitalism's silver bullet. Leslie Lee does say that Banshee Chapter is his new favorite horror movie though, which makes all of his other opinions suspect. I watched it because of that episode, and it's a very competently done found footage horror movie - but the ending is bullshit because it doesn't make sense for reasons I'd have to spoil the plot to explain.

Please don't because I'm about to do a movie podcast and a competently done found footage movie with a poo poo ending is ins anely in our wheelhouse

Also if your fave modern horror movie isn't the Creep series just get out now

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Aliquid posted:

In the last few there was an hour of Bryan talking with his daughter about modern culture and it's loving fascinating.

I haven't gone back much in the archives but if there's more of that, listen to it.

Apparently they've only done one other one but this one rules

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Street Fight is incredibly normie

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Aliquid posted:

streetfight is only good if you grew up poor imo, it's the married with children of podcasts

Wrong

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