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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Man Musk posted:

I intermingled with actual CCP communists. They were so hung up that democracy couldn't work, all I could do is shrug.



why are you posting a photo of a restaurant

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MinutePirateBug
Mar 4, 2013

Man Musk posted:

According to the many Chinese Communists I've interviewed, none of them feel like they are on the short end of the stick. Good luck!

oops https://www.thenation.com/article/w...d%20Ted%20Cruz.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

crepeface posted:

why are you posting a photo of a restaurant

hes doxxing them

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
If ROC foreswore any claim to governance of China, would they be accepted as a neighbour?

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

swimsuit posted:

If ROC foreswore any claim to governance of China, would they be accepted as a neighbour?

Yes...as a neighboring province to the other provinces of China.

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
hehe

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
Israelis, presumably Mossad, caught trying to get NZ passports fraudulently 20 years ago. I think they probably just give them to them these days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_...ere%20deported.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
a suspected mossad agent carrying like 5 passports got killed in the 2011 christchurch earthquake, and then israel sent over a fake search and rescue team to try recover the body

quote:

Meanwhile, the search and rescue squad dispatched from Israel had arrived in Christchurch but the offer of help was rejected by New Zealand authorities because the squad did not have accreditation from the United Nations.

According to Israeli newspaper reports, the squad was being funded by the parents of two other Israelis killed in the earthquake, Ofer Levy and Gabi Ingel, both 22, who were said to be in New Zealand on a backpacking holiday. The parents made repeated public appeals for the Israeli team to join the rescue, appeals that were dismissed by the New Zealand authorities until squad members were discovered in the sealed off "red zone" of the central city.

It is understood the squad members were confronted by armed New Zealand officers and removed from the area. That confrontation is understood to have led to intense diplomatic exchanges between New Zealand and Israel, though police have refused to comment on the incident or even acknowledge that it occurred, and the Israeli ambassador says he had not been advised of any such incident.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Weka posted:

Israelis, presumably Mossad, caught trying to get NZ passports fraudulently 20 years ago. I think they probably just give them to them these days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_...ere%20deported.

here's the next guy they sent as ambassador

quote:

Naftali Tamir served as Ambassador to Australia[1] and the non-resident ambassador to New Zealand[2] from 2005 until 2007.[3]
Tamir was recalled after allegedly commenting that Israel and Australia are "like sisters" because both are in Asia and their peoples do not have "yellow skin and slanted eyes".”[4][1] Tamir denied making the comments.[5] He was later cleared by the Foreign Ministry.[6]
From 1999 until 2000, he was Ambassador to Finland.[7]

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

Man Musk posted:

Sure. Israel as far as we know isn't involved in identity theft, visa fraud, and money laundering to conduct its operations.

The strategic goal keep in mind was to sow discord and distrust in institutions, including and not limited to the 2016 election.

When Israel runs clandestine operations with the intent to destroy the US we can revisit this discussion.

lmfao

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
post hillary friggin owned

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
weren't there Mossad agents in Dubai under Australian passports that assassinated someone?

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

swimsuit posted:

weren't there Mossad agents in Dubai under Australian passports that assassinated someone?

Irish

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
Lots, looks like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assas...nd%20Australia.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


swimsuit posted:

If ROC foreswore any claim to governance of China, would they be accepted as a neighbour?

30 years ago, I think this would have worked, maybe with a neutrality clause as well so it doesn't become Ukraine 2.0

now I kinda think reunification is inevitable, even if it is one country two systems.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Not So Fast posted:

30 years ago, I think this would have worked, maybe with a neutrality clause as well so it doesn't become Ukraine 2.0

now I kinda think reunification is inevitable, even if it is one country two systems.

why would the PRC keep the other system?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Taiwan dug themselves in a hole. The DPP party has "eventual independent" in their party constitution. However the party itself has transitioned from an "eventual independent" party to a "status quote but we can't say it" party. They need to stay anti PRC to keep their 30-35% core vote bank. Some former part members who wanted the leadership remove the "independent" wordings in the party constitution have been marginalized and quit.

The KMT OTOH, has become a "stay status quote but we have to show willingness to talk to Beijing" party for a while. Party members who want actual unification are slowly dying out. Former president Ma is someone who stands right in between those 2 factions.

So both parties want to stay status quote but they can't do it officially by removing territory claims outside Taiwan in the ROC constitution. They touch any part of it, it will violate the PRC Anti-Secession law and trigger the military unification and restarting the civil war.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Mantis42 posted:

I had no clue they even had them here

I read the article the maid cafes were flying under the radar in smaller cities. See the one involved in the case is in Yiwu, which is an emerging 3rd? tier city.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

mawarannahr posted:

here's the next guy they sent as ambassador

Dang this fellow is trying his best to fit in with the dingo dickers across the ditch and Israel recalls him?

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I know the KMT and DPP are both primarily defined with their relationship towards the PRC, but do they have anything to separate them otherwise?

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

swimsuit posted:

If ROC foreswore any claim to governance of China, would they be accepted as a neighbour?

if Taiwan declared full unqualified autonomous independence they would immediately be invaded by the United States

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Spergin Morlock posted:

why would the PRC keep the other system?

to transition governance gradually to the socialist system like they're doing with HK since it means less violence and instability .if I had to guess.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
DPRK ftw
e: forgot to post the url lol https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/112314500195439178

Truga has issued a correction as of 16:57 on Apr 22, 2024

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Internat...Fwww.google.com

LMAO

This loving state separtment needs to be destroyed

Japan argues that they want to see if closer ties are possible with north korea. North korea says its fine, but they should understand that the japanese in n.korea issue is solved, there are no longer anymore there.

The US krammers in and says they will support the families of those kidnapped until they are all returned

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Cao Ni Ma posted:

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Internat...Fwww.google.com

LMAO

This loving state separtment needs to be destroyed

Japan argues that they want to see if closer ties are possible with north korea. North korea says its fine, but they should understand that the japanese in n.korea issue is solved, there are no longer anymore there.

The US krammers in and says they will support the families of those kidnapped until they are all returned

the United Stats

quote:

“The United Stats stands with all the families, with all of Japan and with the international community in pressing for a resolution that will allow all families separated by the regime’s policies to be reunited,” Thomas-Greenfield said at the outset of her meeting with five relatives of the abductees and a representative from their support group at the Prime Minister’s Office.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Cao Ni Ma posted:

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Internat...Fwww.google.com

LMAO

This loving state separtment needs to be destroyed

Japan argues that they want to see if closer ties are possible with north korea. North korea says its fine, but they should understand that the japanese in n.korea issue is solved, there are no longer anymore there.

The US krammers in and says they will support the families of those kidnapped until they are all returned

Lmao

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

tractor fanatic posted:

Also worth mentioning that SCMP is absolute garbage when it comes to China and tech

what about their korean drama coverage is that ok

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


wait a minute i thought the main argument against voting for marcos last election was that he was a chinese communist fifth columnist

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Some Guy TT posted:

wait a minute i thought the main argument against voting for marcos last election was that he was a chinese communist fifth columnist

That's right

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Blinken says genocide in Xinjiang is ongoing in report ahead of China visit
Apr 22nd, 13:02:16

By Simon Lewis

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Beijing is continuing to commit genocide and crimes against humanity against Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities in its western Xinjiang province, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a report published on Monday, ahead of his planned visit to China this week.

The State Department's annual human rights report, which documents abuses recorded all over the world during the previous calendar year, repeated language from previous years on the treatment of Muslims in Xinjiang, but the publication raises the issue ahead of delicate talks, including on the war in Ukraine and global trade, between the top U.S. diplomat and Chinese counterparts.

In a preface, Blinken said the report "documents ongoing grave human rights abuses in the People's Republic of China (PRC)."

"For example, in Xinjiang, the PRC continues to carry out genocide, crimes against humanity, forced labor, and other human rights violations against predominantly Muslim Uyghurs and members of other ethnic and religious minority groups," Blinken said in the preface.

The section of Monday's report on China details the detention of more than one million people in camps and prisons and the use of re-education camps in Xinjiang, among other abuses committed against the broader Chinese population.

China has vigorously denied abuses in Xinjiang and says it established "vocational training centers" to curb terrorism, separatism and religious radicalism.

Blinken when he took office in 2021 endorsed a determination by his predecessor that China's actions amounted to genocide, and he has raised the issue in meetings with Chinese officials.

The annual human rights report has in recent years echoed that position and said the genocide is ongoing, but Xinjiang has featured less prominently in direct contacts between U.S. and Chinese officials.

A senior State Department official briefing reporters on Friday on Blinken's trip said human rights would be among the issues raised by Blinken with Chinese officials, but did not mention the situation in Xinjiang.

(Reporting by Simon Lewis; Editing by Rosalba O'Brien)

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Mr Hootington posted:

Blinken says genocide in Xinjiang is ongoing in report ahead of China visit
Apr 22nd, 13:02:16

By Simon Lewis

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Beijing is continuing to commit genocide and crimes against humanity against Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities in its western Xinjiang province, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a report published on Monday, ahead of his planned visit to China this week.

The State Department's annual human rights report, which documents abuses recorded all over the world during the previous calendar year, repeated language from previous years on the treatment of Muslims in Xinjiang, but the publication raises the issue ahead of delicate talks, including on the war in Ukraine and global trade, between the top U.S. diplomat and Chinese counterparts.

In a preface, Blinken said the report "documents ongoing grave human rights abuses in the People's Republic of China (PRC)."

"For example, in Xinjiang, the PRC continues to carry out genocide, crimes against humanity, forced labor, and other human rights violations against predominantly Muslim Uyghurs and members of other ethnic and religious minority groups," Blinken said in the preface.

The section of Monday's report on China details the detention of more than one million people in camps and prisons and the use of re-education camps in Xinjiang, among other abuses committed against the broader Chinese population.

China has vigorously denied abuses in Xinjiang and says it established "vocational training centers" to curb terrorism, separatism and religious radicalism.

Blinken when he took office in 2021 endorsed a determination by his predecessor that China's actions amounted to genocide, and he has raised the issue in meetings with Chinese officials.

The annual human rights report has in recent years echoed that position and said the genocide is ongoing, but Xinjiang has featured less prominently in direct contacts between U.S. and Chinese officials.

A senior State Department official briefing reporters on Friday on Blinken's trip said human rights would be among the issues raised by Blinken with Chinese officials, but did not mention the situation in Xinjiang.

(Reporting by Simon Lewis; Editing by Rosalba O'Brien)

Well if the genocide experts say so

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

deeply bizarre pictures on this rfa story

China urges citizens to buy new appliances to boost consumer spending

A man lies on the ground as his head is stuck in a washing machine in Fuqing county of Fuzhou, Fujian Province, China, May 29, 2016. (Stringer/Reuters)

www.rfa.org posted:

Got the latest washing machine? How old is your fridge? It's a little hot in here -- are you sure you don't need air-conditioning?

These are all searching questions being asked by "grid workers," people hired by the local government to keep tabs on neighborhoods and report their findings.

In a bid to boost flagging economic growth and weak domestic demand, the Chinese government is tapping the grid workers to ask people to trade in their old cars, washing machines and other household appliances, and even to remodel their homes.

Ruling Chinese Communist Party officials once called on people to hand in their cooking pans and any items made of metal to smelt steel in backyard furnaces, in a bid to outpace the economies of Britain and the United States during the Great Leap Forward of the late 1950s.

Now, motivated by similar concerns, the authorities want them to buy all manner of consumer goods, get a fancier car and a home makeover instead -- all subsidized by the government, working in tandem with local businesses.

A nationwide consumer goods trade-in program announced by the Ministry of Commerce on April 12 aims to boost the recycling of household appliances by 15% this year, compared with 2023, and the replacement rate of cars by 45%, tying in with fresh emissions standards that take effect in 2025.

"Replacing old consumer goods with new ones," is identified as a "key task" by 15 government departments this year, along with boosting trade in second-hand cars, according to a copy of the document posted to the Ministry of Commerce website.

The focus of the plan is "expanding domestic demand" and meeting people's need for a "better life," it said.

Since then, the Shijiazhuang branch of online retailers JD.com has teamed up with home appliance-makers to offer discounts of up to 35% on air conditioners, washing machines, refrigerators and other kitchen and bathroom equipment, according to a report last Thursday in the Hebei Daily newspaper.

Subsidies are also available to those buying new appliances of up to 1,000 yuan, the paper reported, while car sales and service centers in the Shijiazhuang Yuhua Automobile Park are also offering trade-in policies to boost new car sales.

Meanwhile, the grid workers are also carrying out surveys of the state of people's home appliances and plans to replacement, and getting households to enter all of the information the authorities want on a single form, according to screenshots posted by WeChat group users last week.

A resident of Shanghai who gave only the surname Liu for fear of reprisals said she had been approached by a community worker last week in a bid to get her to spend more money on new appliances.

"I said there was no need, as I can just use the ones I have now," Liu said. "They're just trying to get people to spend money."

"If people's appliances break down, then they will buy new ones of their own accord," she said. "You don't have to tell them to do it."

A resident of the northeastern city of Qingdao who gave only the nickname John for fear of reprisals said he has received a number of SMS text messages containing promotions for home appliances, while local residential communities have even started to sell new appliances themselves.

"They are trading in old cars and appliances for new ones, and promoting air conditioners in rural areas," John said. "The neighborhood committees are sending texts to people's phones, and a notice has been issued in our community WeChat group."

"There are even products right there that have been brought in for promotion by the neighborhood committees," he said.

John said he took advantage of the promotion to acquire a new air cooler/heater, marked down to just 399 yuan after discounts and subsidies from a listed price of 1,500 yuan.

"But then most people won't know what the original price was," he said.

A similar pilot is under way in Shandong's Weifang city, while Hunan province will be subsidizing local residents to buy cut-price TVs, air conditioners, refrigerators and other home appliances, state media reported.

Translated by Luisetta Mudie. Edited by Eugene Whong.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
sending people to camps to reeducate them on all these great deals

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


Obama's brown shirts stealing my '95 Miata, insisting it's a "clunker" and "wouldn't you like an F350?"

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

mawarannahr posted:

deeply bizarre pictures on this rfa story

China urges citizens to buy new appliances to boost consumer spending

A man lies on the ground as his head is stuck in a washing machine in Fuqing county of Fuzhou, Fujian Province, China, May 29, 2016. (Stringer/Reuters)

I mean, it's not a surprise to anyone, but the west has had ongoing programs to subsidize the purchase of home appliances to lower baseline power usage for over a decade

this allusion meant
Apr 9, 2006
china is making too many solar panels and trying to drive down household appliance electricity usage? who will stop these hitlers

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Some Guy TT posted:

wait a minute i thought the main argument against voting for marcos last election was that he was a chinese communist fifth columnist

Zelenskyy was once seen as too willing to compromise with Moscow, he ran on a pro-peace platform

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
so did the election rigging succeed in pakistan? funny how the rules based order media doesn't talk too much about the country where they couped a democratically elected government, jailed their leader and destroyed his party

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

stephenthinkpad posted:

I actually cheated I watched a long Chinese youtuber summarized video.

from a chinese youtuber or a taiwanese youtuber if the distinction seems pedantic im just curious if 12.12 the day is officially available in china because south korean media is weirdly cagey about giving any information about south korean media in that market

like for a sense of perspective i know that exhuma has already sold out at the beijing international film festival so while i know it seems likely that movie will get some sort of official release there i also know that no south korean media outlet will consider this to be newsworthy

Some Guy TT has issued a correction as of 01:45 on Apr 23, 2024

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Man Musk posted:

Jesus Christ. I've never seen a more painfully white thread than this.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM0vz2Z8lRw&t=159s

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