Megamissen posted:

ok but why use the western name with a western suffix for it instead of transliterating a cantonese name

Megamissen posted:

the western suffixes is the worst part of those balkanized china maps

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

oh you support China? then why is the "communist" party full of princelings living off inherited wealth?

https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2024/04/22/desmond-shum-on-how-xi-jinping-beat-down-chinas-red-aristocrats

Desmond Shum on how Xi Jinping beat down China’s red aristocrats

thank you, president xi

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

How North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un is using the rise of women to maintain his grip on power



girls rocking

Some Guy TT posted:

i cant wrap my mind around the cognitive dissonance necessary for this article to simultaneously claim that red aristocrats are emblematic of corruption in the communist party of china while also putting scare quotes around the phrase "anti-corruption" when describing how xi has removed them from their traditional positions of power

Danann posted:

stephenthinkpad posted:

Cause it was clearly organized by non Chinese . If it was porposed by an actual Cantonese, it would use the name Yue 粤 , which reference to a great independent kingdom in contemporary of Qin Chi Huang, and its has a legacy including a great archaeology site right in the heart of Guangzhou.

Spergin Morlock posted:

well, in the case of guys like bo xilai I'm sure it's sour grapes. there's a reason he tried to run straight to the US embassy when his game was up lol

fits my needs posted:

so sad

https://x.com/vonderburchard/status/1783203372176158814

fits my needs posted:

so sad

https://x.com/vonderburchard/status/1783203372176158814

stephenthinkpad posted:

No, his right-hand man/bagman/cleaner/vice major/police chief ran into US embassy after he found out Bo was going to kill him to get rip of the evidences, not Bo himself.

He is going to finish serving his jail sentence in 1-2 years btw. The fixer guy, not Bo and his wife.

Truga posted:

dumb rear end bitch

Spergin Morlock posted:

her stupid Thatcher/Hillary style haircut makes me irrationally upset. it's like seeing red or yellow coloring on an insect

mawarannahr posted:

mawarannahr posted:

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In China, this intellectual dark web, or zhīshifènzǐ ànwǎng 知识分子暗网, has been embraced by internet users — but there are plenty of homegrown figures whose popularity rivals that of Jordan Peterson or Sam Harris. Like their comrades on 4chan, Chinese internet users go looking for stronger stuff, too, and it often leads them to an intellectual and blogger by the name of Liú Zhòngjìng 刘仲敬, who made a name for himself in the early-2000s on social media platforms like Douban 豆瓣 and Zhihu 知乎 (China’s version of Quora). Like Sargon of Akkad or Black Pigeon Speaks, Liu lays a scholarly, scientific veil over ideas far more extreme than anything found in the mainstream.

...Auntie 阿姨, as his followers call him

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What Liu hinted at in his writing for Gongshi and said explicitly in his posts on Douban was that the Chinese faced imminent collapse and would be replaced by dozens of smaller states, organized around language, ethnicity, and geography.

Liu Zhongjing’s philosophy — Auntology — borrows heavily from the work of Oswald Spengler (1880-1936) and other thinkers of the Konservative Revolution of interwar Germany. The key to understanding Liu is Spengler’s 1918 The Decline of the West, translated into Chinese as Xīfāng de Mòluò 西方的没落. Spengler posited eight “High Cultures,” beginning with the Babylonian and ending with Western Europe and the United States. The previous seven High Cultures all went into decline and, Spengler argued, the Occident, at the time wracked by war, epidemics, and poverty, was on its way out, too:

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At this level all civilizations enter upon a stage, which lasts for centuries, of appalling depopulation. The whole pyramid of cultural man vanishes. It crumbles from the summit, first the world-cities, then the provincial forms and finally, the land itself, whose best blood has incontinently poured into the towns, merely to bolster them up for awhile. At the last, only the primitive blood remains, alive, but robbed of its strongest and most promising elements. This residue is the fellaheen.

For Liu, China is no longer a nation, but the remains of a nation, peopled by the fellaheen — the word in Arabic is فلاحين‎, close enough to the Chinese nóngmín 农民, or the English “peasant,” but Spengler uses it to refer to a fallen class that has been robbed of national destiny. The fellaheen (fèilā 费拉 in Chinese) are a post-historical people (史后之人 shǐ hòu zhī rén), and Liu marks the end of that history around the Qin Dynasty (221 BC–206 BC).

Liu is fond of a line from Spengler’s The Decline of the West that states: “I am convinced that the nations of China which sprang up in members in the middle, Hwang Ho [Yellow River] region at the beginning of the Chou dynasty [Zhou Dynasty]…were in their inward form more closely akin to the peoples of the West than to those of the Classical and the Arabian worlds.” Whether his reading of it is correct or not, he sees it as proof that the Qin wars of conquest that unified the Warring States resulted in the extinction of “cultural nations” (wénhuà mínzú 文化民族, or Kulturnation, as Spengler calls them in the original) and replaced them with a fellaheen nation (fèilā mínzú 费拉民族), disconnected from its cultural roots.

The only future for the people that live under an empire of fellaheen (fèilā dìguó 费拉帝国) is a process that he calls “ethnic invention” (mínzú fāmíng 民族发明) — basically, concoct a local Culture (capitalized after Spengler, who saw Culture as the seed and Civilization as the plant into which it grows). The process involves de-Sinicization and rejection of Han culture (tuōzhī 脱支, “to escape Shina,” borrowing the derogatory archaic Japanese term for China). The need to build new tribal nations is made all the more pressing by Liu’s prediction of a Great Flood (Dàhóngshuǐ 大洪水), an impending apocalyptic event that will see much of the world’s central governments collapse.

This is a massive simplification, trimming Liu’s ragged bush of fascist historiography, Christian millenarianism, conspiracy theory, and anti-left extremism into a tidy landing strip.

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In a criticism of Liu, “Liu Zhongjing: the crumbs of a worthless man in the clothes of a king,” published on resolutely anti-progressive Chángjiāng Zátán 长江杂谈, the anonymous writer attempts to sum up Auntology this way:

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Liu Zhongjing believes that the Chinese, beginning from the administration of the Qin Dynasty, had become a fellaheen nation. A fellaheen empire has only population, not people with an ethnic identity. Therefore, there is no Han ethnic group because the supposedly Han people are fellaheen. Fellaheen is not an ethnic identity, so they are simply slaves laboring under imperial bureaucracy. Also, he supports the idea of “various Chinese nations,” so in Sichuan, there’s a Basuria, in Hubei a Jingchuria, in Guangdong a Cantonia… It’s ridiculous, isn’t it? This is the kind of raving you might hear in a mental hospital.

The anonymous writer is one of many that sympathize with Liu’s attacks on progressivism but feel that the disintegration of the People’s Republic is going much too far.

But Liu’s ideas on de-Sinicization, ethnic invention, and a coming collapse, although not always particularly original, have their adherents. Following Liu’s own invented state of Basuria or Bāshǔlìyàguó 巴蜀利亚国, his followers have begun inventing their own.

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“Jacob Pius,” who goes by @Yuyencian on Twitter, recently posted a “Map of the national independence movement in Far East” (above). The map includes Liu’s “ethnic invention” of Basuria as well as other polities, including Yehetland, Komeseland, Goetland, Tshiechuria, Hakkaland, and also East Turkestan and Tibet. For Liu and his followers, these proposed nations organized around ethnicity and language are part of a struggle for independence from the People’s Republic of China and other states in Asia.

The map’s divisions obviously borrow from pre-PRC borders and the country names refer to regional titles that date back millennia. Liu’s Basuria is an attempt, at least in name, of resurrecting the states of Ba and Shu, both located in what is now Sichuan Province and both conquered by the Qin. Yuyencia (Yōuyànxīyà 幽燕西亚), which covers territory now occupied by Hebei, Beijing, and Tianjin, also refers back to two defunct jurisdictions, both part of the Nine Provinces. Goetland’s Chinese name Wúguó 吴国 is borrowed from the Kingdom of Wu, and its English name attempts to recreate the way speakers of that region’s language would pronounce the first character of the kingdom.

These movements can be hard to take seriously — Yuyencia’s website, for example, describes their proposed nation as having a “unique national language,” called Yenpolish, and a national religion, which will be Roman Catholicism.

Yuyencian independence leader Jacob Pius is serious, though, about what he sees in the future of the PRC and Western liberalism.

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Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with China’s leader, Xi Jinping, in Beijing on Friday, in an attempt to hold together a fractious relationship despite disputes over the economy, national security and geopolitical frictions in East Asia, the Middle East and Ukraine.

Both China and the United States have said they were hoping for progress on a few smaller, pragmatic fronts, including improving communications.But they remain at a standstill on fundamental strategic issues, including trade policies and territorial conflicts in the South China Sea and over Taiwan. Both sides acknowledge the danger of the relationship sliding into further conflict.

The Biden administration is deeply concerned that cheap Chinese exports are threatening U.S. jobs, and are worried about China’s support of Russia in the Ukrainian war. And China has accused the United States of working to encircle Chinese interests in the Pacific.
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The announcement of the meeting between Mr. Blinken and Mr. Xi was made by Chinese officials and confirmed by the State Department.

Earlier in the day, Mr. Blinken spent more than five hours with China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, in meetings and a working lunch at the Diaoyutai State Guesthouse in Beijing.

In his remarks, Mr. Wang struck a somewhat more conciliatory tone than in the past, telling Mr. Blinken that “the China-U.S. relationship is beginning to stabilize,” and that its future would rely on the decisions of both countries. During Mr. Blinken’s visit last year, Mr. Wang laid the blame for the deterioration of ties with the United States, which he said needed to “reflect upon itself.”

But Mr. Wang also warned on Friday that negative factors in the relationship were still “increasing and building.”

“The relationship is facing all kinds of disruptions,” Mr. Wang said Friday. “China’s legitimate development rights have been unreasonably suppressed and our core interests are facing challenges.”
“I hope that we can make some progress on the issues that our presidents agreed we should cooperation on, but also clarify our differences, our intent, and make very clear to each other where we stand,” Mr. Blinken responded.

Among other goals, U.S. officials want China to make progress on stemming the flow to the United States of chemicals used to make fentanyl, and to strengthen communication between the respective countries’ militaries to try to avoid accidents and misunderstandings. Chinese officials said they would promote more cultural exchanges between the countries, and press the United States to end interrogations of Chinese students at the border.

In recent weeks, U.S. officials have begun more urgently raising concerns about China’s economic assistance to Russia. China has denied providing weapons for Russia’s war effort, which Washington has said would be a red line, but American officials say it is still boosting Russia’s defense industry by selling components that can be used for civilian or military purposes.

Gildiss posted:

RISC-V Business

crepeface posted:

is it just me or are the number of stupid articles even higher than normal lately

FirstnameLastname posted:

from what I've seen of the chinese auto market they are going to walk all over everything in the west and all over japan

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Just subsidized your manufacturing bing bong simple

(you cant and even if you could a huge chunk of that subsidy would go to pay for the energy alone)

Tankbuster posted:

basuria is a sub-JRPG rear end name.

fits my needs posted:

https://x.com/nytimes/status/1783763123402404337

guess blinken got the meeting, doesnt look too happy lol

Mandel Brotset posted:

Blinken tells CNN the US has seen evidence of China attempting to influence upcoming US elections

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/politics/blinken-china-interview-intl-hnk/index.html

tractor fanatic posted:

Isn't BYD building a factory in Hungary? What if Chinese EVs just expand production in Europe?

Mandel Brotset posted:

Blinken tells CNN the US has seen evidence of China attempting to influence upcoming US elections

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/politics/blinken-china-interview-intl-hnk/index.html

stephenthinkpad posted:

Supposedly one of the two French carmarkers lobbied for EU to build up the auto tariff wall against China (the other one has a deal with Chinese EV). And all the German carmakers lobby against the tariff because they all have big business in China and will be the first to lost business. French cars probably doesn't have much presence in China. Japan car IIRC, only the big two can hold their lines, Nissan and other smaller brands are practically being run out of China. Korea cars made the wrong bet because they went for the "cheap and low spec strategy" in the Chinese market. Competing with the Chinese brands on the low end is just asking for trouble, they are losing more badly than the Japanese brands.

So back to the topic of Chinese car exports, I think all the tradition car maker countries (Germany, Japan, US) already have various import walls against China, so it would be more interesting to see them duel it out in more neutral markets like ASEAN, MENA, Mexico etc. Chinese cars are already walking all over the European cars in Russia thanks to EU's self owned export ban so we don't need to look at that market.

genericnick posted:

In who's favor motherfucker???