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Ah right and the doctors are still striking. And they seem to have conflated the defeat of the conservatives in the election to support for their cause and refuse to back down at all. They are still demanding the increase of doctor slots of 0. Thursday to mark start of resignations by senior doctors amid standoff with government
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Apr 30, 2024 02:22
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Gildiss posted:
people were saying #whereisAiT but I'm saying #whereisKimGeonhee
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Apr 30, 2024 02:28
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Neoliberals genuinely believe in meme magic, that saying something is true enough times makes it so, having forgotten all the actual effort needed to prop up the illusions throughout the 20th century.
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Apr 30, 2024 02:35
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love to read about domestic politics getting spicy
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Apr 30, 2024 02:39
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Is China the only country to figure out how to deal with the colour revolution playbook of baiting a heavy handed response? How did China figure out how to deal with this? Any good book recommendations involving the Chinese dealing with colour revolutions?
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Apr 30, 2024 02:48
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AmyL posted:How did China figure out how to deal with this? Any good book recommendations involving the Chinese dealing with colour revolutions? "Deng Xiaoping: A Revolutionary Life" has a whole chapter on how he formulated and mediated a response to Tiananmen. I guess maybe you might have meant Hong Kong but I don't have a good source for that one.
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Apr 30, 2024 02:54
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Spergin Morlock posted:that whole blurb reminded me that Yahoo! used to be a giant tech company until the CEO turned down a massive buyout from Microsoft Not sure about Korea Yahoo, is it like Japan Yahoo in that it's actually "random other company that bought the rights to be named Yahoo in like 1996, which is why they still exist"? Glad you're well, AiT.
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Apr 30, 2024 02:55
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gradenko_2000 posted:"Deng Xiaoping: A Revolutionary Life" has a whole chapter on how he formulated and mediated a response to Tiananmen. I guess maybe you might have meant Hong Kong but I don't have a good source for that one. I was actually thinking of the Cultural Revolution and Tiananmen Square. Thank you for that.
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Apr 30, 2024 02:59
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gradenko_2000 posted:"Deng Xiaoping: A Revolutionary Life" has a whole chapter on how he formulated and mediated a response to Tiananmen. I guess maybe you might have meant Hong Kong but I don't have a good source for that one. ^ yeah, I think protests are different in the modern age of internet and media. im not sure the HK protests could have ever been "successful." it was spurned on by an overblown objection to a security law. lots of protesters left when stuff got violent. I think there was just a general vibe of "this level of conflict doesn't seem worth it, especially since we already got the law pulled." it seems like the HK police let the protesters punch themselves out and the central Chinese government very conspicuously stayed out of it.
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Apr 30, 2024 03:11
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Gildiss posted:Ah right and the doctors are still striking. I wouldn't mind South Korea pulling a Reagan on these selfish rear end in a top hat doctors. Unless they go back to work within X days, they are banned for life from practicing medicine.
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Apr 30, 2024 05:51
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China’s state is eating the private property market Pity those soon to buy a homehttps://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2024/04/11/chinas-state-is-eating-the-private-property-market quote:At an upmarket housing development in Wuhan, sales agents want to make clear that their state-owned firm has severed all its ties to the private sector. The firm had at first partnered with Sunac, a private developer, until it defaulted in 2022. A saleswoman explains that the firm’s owner also controls the city’s waterworks and electricity provider. If this type of firm collapses, she says with a grin, “then the whole country has no hope”. can't believe Chinese home buyers have to suffer under the tyranny of 30-40% of new housing supply being social housing for low income households
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Apr 30, 2024 06:20
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china's "having a powerful and functional government" ability is imba af, plz nerf
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Apr 30, 2024 06:27
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crepeface posted:^ yeah, I think protests are different in the modern age of internet and media. I do get the vibe the protestors were basically what shitlibs accuse leftist protestors of being, a mix of intelligence agency cutouts and idiot rich kids jumping on a bandwagon, and had no real material base. It was lol how even western media suddenly abandoned them completely and left narratives drifting in the wind when they all came out for Trump.
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Apr 30, 2024 07:03
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Korea posted:Min held a rambling, profane two-hour press conference that was televised live: “There are too many fuckers in this business. Sorry I cursed, but I gotta relieve some stress. … These assholes send around all these KakaoTalk screencaps, trying to kill me. They are making me out to be some psycho. If you want to come at me, come at my face, don’t talk behind my back. I’m just an ignorant art school bitch. Look at me, wouldn’t you think, ‘Man, that’s some crazy bitch?’” I was going to make a joke about Putin's SMO speech, but lol, maybe I want to watch her speech.
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Apr 30, 2024 08:03
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:China’s state is eating the private property market the economist really has outdone itself with that one, extreme "but really mass apartment building blocks program does improve living quality?" coping energy
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Apr 30, 2024 08:20
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Yeah, the government debt thing also seems pretty pointless as well, it is backed up by the state, and honestly the Chinese government is simply investing in its own future including infrastructure (a big part of that debt will is also high speed rail). You build all this stuff now and then slowly pay it off for 30 years. It isn't like the massive amount of unstable unsecured debt or corporate debt in the US.
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Apr 30, 2024 08:32
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, the government debt thing also seems pretty pointless as well, it is backed up by the state, and honestly the Chinese government is simply investing in its own future including infrastructure (a big part of that debt will is also high speed rail). You build all this stuff now and then slowly pay it off for 30 years. It isn't like the massive amount of unstable unsecured debt or corporate debt in the US. but is that infrastructure actually profitable?
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Apr 30, 2024 08:33
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fart simpson posted:but is that infrastructure actually profitable? Honestly, the Chinese government is probably still going to get more out of it than they put in but just on a very long timeline. (I assume that they are still going to charge some type of rent in public housing, they do toll their highways, and they do charge train fares etc). But yeah it isn't the get rich quick type of "profits" expected from the West. It is almost impossible to get any sort of accurate or sober analysis of the Chinese/Russia economy (or the American economy for that matter), it is a complete smoke screen unless you tediously pick apart what is going on from data or bits and pieces of actual truth that comes out.
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Apr 30, 2024 08:43
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fart simpson posted:but is that infrastructure actually profitable? Lower cost of replacing labour power means lower cost of labour means better export position. So yeah, it is.
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Apr 30, 2024 08:46
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Does it need to be? Providing people with a free, high quality, housing is a very good thing. I do have to laugh at "but the state might not have as high quality as private builds" because corner cutting never happens in the private profit driven sector.
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Apr 30, 2024 08:47
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Josef bugman posted:Does it need to be? Providing people with a free, high quality, housing is a very good thing. I do have to laugh at "but the state might not have as high quality as private builds" because corner cutting never happens in the private profit driven sector. That's if the real estate developer didn't collapse and "deliver" you an empty shell of an apartment, too
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Apr 30, 2024 08:58
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Better transportation doesn't need to be profitable as long as the trains are full most of the time. It's basic utility, like water and education.
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Apr 30, 2024 09:02
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Josef bugman posted:because corner cutting never happens in the private profit driven sector. logitech f710 sub, nevar forgat
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Apr 30, 2024 09:16
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Josef bugman posted:Does it need to be? Providing people with a free, high quality, housing is a very good thing. I do have to laugh at "but the state might not have as high quality as private builds" because corner cutting never happens in the private profit driven sector. Also it means a population that's got stable places to live that are built to have easy access to infrastructure, making them happier, healthier, more content and cooperative, and more likely to have kids than one which is unstable, unhealthy and isolated.
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Apr 30, 2024 10:06
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Also does anyone have any recommendations for books about Zhou Enlai? I'd really enjoy finding out more about him and his relationship with Deng and Mao.
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Apr 30, 2024 10:26
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Also it means a population that's got stable places to live that are built to have easy access to infrastructure, making them happier, healthier, more content and cooperative, and more likely to have kids than one which is unstable, unhealthy and isolated. It is also the big shift that happened in the last couple years, part of the reason they have allowed a partial collapse of big real estate firms is that they were pushing a bubble in first-tier Chinese cities that was causing a distortions in the market that were tickling into second-tier cities. The Chinese government wanted a reset both of housing prices and construction from private to public housing. The West spun this as China is on the verge of collapse etc etc. But yeah, they are finding out that honestly, probably the Soviet Union kind of had it right along. Deng was right about getting market access and building up the capital needed but once that is done with really it only makes sense to head back to a more state socialist model where the government both owns and controls most of its own industries (and the ones it doesn't are under strict oversight) and all public goods and services are provided by the state. It is just going to take a while.
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Apr 30, 2024 12:39
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I do get the vibe the protestors were basically what shitlibs accuse leftist protestors of being, a mix of intelligence agency cutouts and idiot rich kids jumping on a bandwagon, and had no real material base. They were steeped in wild conspiracy theories too. There was a more widely reported conspiracy about the police murdering a teenage girl, but that was actually built on the bones of people saying that dozens of bodies were being thrown off buildings in Kowloon. Also that MTR trains were being turned into mobile prison and torture centers. Or that Beijing was secretly bringing in tanks and APCs and hiding them in the New Territories. Wild times lol
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Apr 30, 2024 14:14
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found out that this white devil has his own party in south korea
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Apr 30, 2024 14:33
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look the man's family has been there since before Korea was annexed by japan or the russo japanese war. Hes korean for all practical purposes.
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Apr 30, 2024 15:35
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fart simpson posted:but is that infrastructure actually profitable? Ardennes posted:Honestly, the Chinese government is probably still going to get more out of it than they put in but just on a very long timeline. (I assume that they are still going to charge some type of rent in public housing, they do toll their highways, and they do charge train fares etc). It's better than that. Infrastructure starts to pay off immediately as it gets working in the sense of the economic multiplier, which isn't accounted for in simple financial costing. A humongous expensive but greatly useful project that appears to require 40 years of credit to pay off might clear for the state in four or five (hell, could be three) years due to the immense aggregate economic benefit of its completion.
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Apr 30, 2024 18:14
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Ardennes posted:It is just going to take a while. In strict Marxist terms of development, the CPC is doing more similarly to what Marx himself envisioned, where planning would cohabit with the market as a social-historical structure for a while. It was the hellbasket circumstances of the Soviet Union that required a forced march to forge ahead and preserve the revolution - I don't at all with the "timetable" thing that started with Khrushchev, as although several aspects of what could be considered more advanced socialism were achieved then, it lacked the aggregate work (especially the technical forces necessary for advanced planning).
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Apr 30, 2024 18:23
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In the locations where the Chinese government announce/start building new HSR stations and metro stations, the real estate value would immediately go up. And the local governments used to rely heavily on residential development right land sales to generate income (they are moving away from this model). So the cost of the new railway line is not paid for by tickets but should be calculated by the new neighborhood boom facilitated by the the new station. This is not the case in the US because the landlords will be one mainly profited from the building of the new stations so there is no political will to expand the lines, not even to make the trains go faster. Now that I think about it, new train station in China is more analogous to new Stadium building in the US. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 18:46 on Apr 30, 2024 |
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Apr 30, 2024 18:41
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stephenthinkpad posted:In the locations where the Chinese government announce/start building new HSR stations and metro stations, the real estate value would immediately go up. And the local governments used to rely heavily on residential development right land sales to generate income (they are moving away from this model). So the cost of the new railway line is not paid for by tickets but should be calculated by the new neighborhood boom initiative by the the new station. This is not the case in the US because the landlords will be profited from the building of the new stations so there is no political will to expand the lines, not even to make the trains go faster. lol forever that the only public infrastructure investment we can get in the US anymore is when a city or municipality decides to give $1 billion+ to a privately owned sports team in the form of a brand new stadium
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Apr 30, 2024 18:43
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celebrating the fall of saigon in 1/35 scale      album with the rest of my photos here: https://imgur.com/a/apUpqZE e: album of some the reference photos i used, they're also pretty cool https://imgur.com/a/wW0lgWq  
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Apr 30, 2024 19:33
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I worry about the gun barrel having to ram those gates
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Apr 30, 2024 19:53
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Nice, reminds me of the Prigozhin tank that got stuck in Belgorod.
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Apr 30, 2024 20:06
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dead gay comedy forums posted:It's better than that. Infrastructure starts to pay off immediately as it gets working in the sense of the economic multiplier, which isn't accounted for in simple financial costing. A humongous expensive but greatly useful project that appears to require 40 years of credit to pay off might clear for the state in four or five (hell, could be three) years due to the immense aggregate economic benefit of its completion. I was saying even in a raw dollar and cents sense, all that stuff would still pay itself off much less the huge benefit from it on an macroeconomic scale. As for Khrushchev, he was talking about timetables to Communism while he was glad handing with Eisenhower. Obviously he had hoped to work out some type of NEP style deal but made a huge mess even if growth was high.
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Apr 30, 2024 21:18
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slave to my cravings posted:nowhere else in the world has a government ever saved a carmaker from going bankrupt
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Apr 30, 2024 21:23
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Ardennes posted:I was saying even in a raw dollar and cents sense, all that stuff would still pay itself off much less the huge benefit from it on an macroeconomic scale. complementary post, wasn’t correcting you 
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Mantis42 posted:the indian century! search "where does India store its gold reserves" to find out who runs the country
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