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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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haha i’m glad xi is trashing politburo succession mechanisms this is surely good news for the stability of the worlds manufacturing giant

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Yinlock posted:

china doesn't seem to be 99% crime

lol

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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A Typical Goon posted:

what’s your guys favourite Chinese characteristic of socialism mines probably all the capitalism

oppression of tibetans and uyghurs that’s ten times worse than what israel does to palestinians but also a million times less known or condemned

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Fallen Hamprince posted:

homework explainer going fully insane and moving to china to live out his police state fantasy is honestly a way better conclusion to that particular forums storyline than i was expecting

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Jeb! Repetition posted:

Does this mean the SA forums aren't blocked in China

communist firewalls aren’t good enough to filter out potent goon shitposting

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Yossarian-22 posted:

last i checked, tibetans and uyghurs have access to running water and more than one meal a day unlike gaza

there are literally more tibetans and uyghurs living without running or potable water than there are palestinians in palestine


but lol it’s not like in your pursuit of the oppression olympics you’ll ever find out from the chinese government or indeed care

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

this thread is a lightning rod for all the worst posters

it is complete now that you're here too

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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the guardian is training it’s sucking off skills

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/27/china-donald-trump-xi-jinping

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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with 1.8 bil chinese people on planet earth you’d think some of them would study chinese coins instead of leaving the task to two westerners as the only world specialists

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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rudatron posted:

the press offensive has to be seen in light of Trump fumbling around in the world stage, so it's not hard to see Xi trying to take advantage of that

I think future historians are gonna look back on these time, right now, as the fall of the American Empire, because it makes for a real good story, but also because the damage from the Trump presidency has been more...subtle. Hard to notice, until it's gone. You can't maintain an aura of hegemony under an giant manbaby idiot. and once the crack forms, it takes on a life of its own.

And conversely, they're going to speak really highly of Xi
fast forward ten years later
xi dies of lung disease, china falls apart because he axed the succession mechanism

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Typo posted:

I don't think that's gonna happen but that's certainly within the realm of possibility

more likely xi pulls a jiang zemin, resigns presidency/general secretaryship but retains chairman of the central military commission and rules from behind the scenes

of course it’s not going to happen in ten years but eventually everybody dies and if xi continues to consolidate power under him officially and informally eventually china and the rest of the world as well will have to endure major rear end

an established and working succession mechanism was one of the only good things about the chinese communist party

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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russophobia is very real if you decide to accept the epistemological universe proposed by russian nationalists as the whole truth about the world

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Baloogan posted:

thats actually really funny

i mean he’s not wrong

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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smacs a nice game but god that interface

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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you could decorate everything with piles of gold in morrowind it was real good

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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the first divinity was very bad and i regret paying whatever minuscule amount of roubles i shelled out for it

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Fallen Hamprince posted:

of all our sins i think inventing ideology is at least a top 5 white people fuckup, we were much better off when we just chopped people's heads off because god said so and so were everyone else before we exported it to them

extreme ideology accelerated the head chopping pretty massively yeah

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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religiously motivated concentration camps seem pretty rare, modern burma notwithstanding

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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although i’m pretty sure they don’t bother with setting up camps in burma, just kill everyone there and then

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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jBrereton posted:

have you heard of the concept of "a ghetto"/"the shoah"

or was this a joke post idk you post a lot of at face value incredibly stupid poo poo

being a minority in the medieval times sucked in general but lol if you’re comparing that to the ghetto as invented by nazi germany

like, 10-15th centuries saw 400k jewish deaths due to persecution in europe, over five centuries

to compare that to the brutal efficiency of modern ideological regimes is just idiotic

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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rudatron posted:

but you've got to compare relative population though. for medieval europe, 400k is a lot, and it's still a lot today. and the thirty years war is still up there, as far as destructive conflicts in europe (8 million dead)

you’re comparing literally five centuries with 30 years in one post here

medieval europe grew from 30 million to about 100 million in those five centuries

none of this disproves my point that it’s incredibly absurd to suggest there is any equivalency between medieval ghettos and modern ideologically based ghettos/concentration camps

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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GoluboiOgon posted:

From the 13th century Mongol invasion of Persia:


This happened over a few days.

you forgot to include [citation needed]

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Cerebral Bore posted:

i'm pressing the nerve staple button quite furiously right now

the people will not accept a stapling, because your police level is too low, because you hosed them

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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rudatron posted:

lal is the only good guy, the rest of alpha centauri are all psychotic fanatics, how did none of you pick this up

probably racism

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Jose posted:

its a bad idea to compare any SMAC faction to the US because they're all that much better. even miriam

the only nerve stapling i get irl is reading ur posts

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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every smac leader is pretty creepy and authoritarian if you think about it because like even the most “democratic” oriented ones end up getting longevity treatment to live and rule their factions with their loyal minions for hundreds of years

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Top City Homo posted:

i cant for the life of me believe that morgan would be a viable faction

how the hell do you transplant an exploitative non producing casino ideology into a place that has no goods or consumers?

its like having libertarians start one of their fail settlements

how will it not just immediately fall apart?

so long as there’s a population there’s consumers and so long as there’s consumers there’s goods, real or virtual, they will want

for real though don’t overanalyse smac factions lol. like do you reckon a bunch of anarchohackers could run an entire civilisation? or some hippies could survive on an abjectly hostile planet? uhhh

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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like realistically the only faction that should be able to make it past the first mind worm attack is probably the spartans

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Typo posted:

sure, they'll just compromise ideology with reality

if this was possible in the smac universe the original UN ship would’ve never broken up into a bunch of weirdo factions

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i appreciate how this thread went from discussion of modern china and xi jinping to smac because i drunkenly changed the title to my nick

smac is engaging, china is just depressing

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Typo posted:

to give an analogue, the communist movement fractured into like a million pieces but when communists came to power they rapidly made compromises with reality and built states which guaranteed their own survival

i think they shot most of the people that disagreed with them actually

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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so you’re saying pravin lal should’ve shot most of his subordinates right before they landed? hmm

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Typo posted:

no, lal would have built a 20th century style liberal state

but yeah all the crazy ideologues need to build some sort of a state, democratic or not and you can bet someone like yang miriam or even morgan are gonna have scary police states

nah actually if lal did that smac would be a mindworm tower defence game

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Tiny Bug Child posted:

all the smax factions were pretty shaky ideologically and the pirates were the worst. hey what are your core beliefs? oh uhh we really like water

you’re scandinavian so you must love pillaging stuff on boats

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Consumerism is a natural outcome of the cramped conditions in urban living. What else are you going to do, expand your home? The ability to consume isn't antithetical to Marxism either, since liberation from material need is sort of the point. The actual issue is one of efficiencies and ethics in resource distribution. Are people in the laboring classes, countryside, or foreign countries deprived because of an overabundance available to urban middle and upper classes? If the answer is yes then there's a problem.

lol

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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R. Guyovich posted:

everyone's been happy to talk cpc and marxism with me and love that i'm interested in their country from a position of respect and genuine desire to learn

sometimes people are (understandably) wary but articulating marxist-leninist opinions dissolves that fast, because shockingly: they are shared by most chinese

others are apolitical, which is fine and makes sense. everyone in a country of one and a half billion people, or even in a party of 89 million people, isn't going to be a committed ideologue the way members of encircled parties in the imperial center almost have to be. kind of the point of fighting a revolution — so future generations don't have to

i guess i’m glad you can finally act like a normal person because the government pays lip service to your chosen ideology

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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i imagine it can’t have been great if an internet forums motivated you to move to china tbh

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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r guyovich, please tell me, out of genuine interest, why you decided to move to china and how long you plan to stay, thank you very much

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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R. Guyovich posted:

if you stay long enough you can apply for a renewable 10-year green card. that 1000 figure is people who've renounced their citizenship

i hope you’re planning on renouncing your not chinese citizenships once you’ve got some residency years under the belt

what’s your job btw

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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wondering when the great chinese firewall will come down on somethingawful to deprive us of guyovich posts

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