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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
So is this the big pivot, then? Like, they have finally beaten turbopoverty according to their Graphs And Charts and now are transitioning to the next formal stage of Marxian development?

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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
all of USAmerican history is a struggle between states and the federal government over various issues. I agree that the protests are “really” about sovereignty and a refusal to integrate, and to the extent they are, they’re about *checks watch* 37 years too late. go yell at Maggie in hell

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

turn off the TV posted:

the prc is a cia psyop designed to make leftists respect cops

it’s working

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
people love to shitpost about guillotines and Stalin and the nkvd or whatever but as soon as the rubber hits the road oh it’s state capitalism and authoritarianism, boo hoo

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Bloodnose posted:

real serious anarchists... must be dumb libs

it’s true, many people are saying this

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
I’m looking forward to touring the PRC legation in London next year, maybe they’ll bring a touch of class to the joint.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
a context where they are violently attacking a communist government with the support of the United States department of state, Steve Bannon, the Proud Boys, and the protesters themselves are waving around the flags of expired colonial governments? That kind of context?

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
typo is correct

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
(Me, jeering at Constable Ontlametse Bernstein Menyatsoe) “I stand against police brutality and the criminal extrajudicial execution of Alwyn Wolfaardt, Nicolaas Fourie and Jacobus Stephanus Uys! All cops are bad!”

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

help help help. american billionaries choosing to invest in china are afraid of pissing off the communist party. this is a crisis for democracy

wow those fake chinese communists sure forced a bunch of billionaires to respect the territorial integrity of their country! wake me up when they start partitioning it off for sale again instead of treating their financial rentier-city enclaves in such an imperialistic fashion! someone give me a job at jacobin

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

whatever7 posted:

Too bad no general will shoot Trump after he sell out the trade deal to China for more favorable reelection rating.

Peter Navarro man up.

maybe after being humiliated by the president in Syria the most combat-hardened forces of the American empire will just make like the Cossacks and ignore the pleas to scatter the rabble advancing on the winter palace

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
imo the PRC won like fifteen years ago and white people are basically just sour grapesing about it now in a really funny (and embarrassing, for them) yellow peril way

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
:goonsay: Militarily: The US could probably have contained China for another 20 years or so if it weren’t for the GWOT/OIF. If Bush has done a pacific pivot then, the geopolitics could maybe have worked out until the US/JP/SK economies ran out of gas trying to make it work. Instead, the PLAN achieved technical parity with the USN in the 2010s (as a direct result of the shift to counterterrorism) and the Chinese economy continues to grow despite a contractionary trade war with the US.

Economically: probably the neoliberals would have needed to pass a TPP-like by 2005 or so to form an economic bloc that could stand up to China.

As an American, setting aside any “morality” of our demon cracker settler colonialist state, the basic problem is an unwillingness to acknowledge an end to the halcyon superpower days and an intense disagreement among the policy makers who half-understand it and keep changing policy on whether to go out with a bang or a whimper every 8 years or so.

Like this poo poo with the NBA is a great illustration. In America, freedom belongs to consumers and is expressed through consumer decisions; when someone makes a political comment that enough consumers are mad about, they will get fired or muzzled or whatever. But Americans specifically (maybe Westerners in general) aren’t willing to acknowledge that 1.4b Chinese consumers also have opinions and will express them through the dollar, just as both anti-fascists do when they try to deplatform Milo or fascists when they successfully blackball Kaepernick or whatever.

Anyway now social fascists of the liberal national security state think China can be repartitioned or broken like the Soviets and they’ll be proven wrong by history (just like they’re being proven wrong in Venezuela, Syria, etc.)

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Ardennes posted:

Yeah, I doubt it any of that would be possible considering up to 2014-2015 the DC establishment thought everything was okay and by then it was way way too late. Even if the War on Terror hadn’t happened we would have still kept on acting everything was fine because American corporations were still making a ton of cash.

If anything it seemed pretty baked in, and he Great Recession also has to happen eventually after Clinton deregulated derivatives.

yeah only insane racist reactionary maniacs like pat buchanan cared about it in the 90s or 00s or whatever. weird how liberalism sows the seeds of its own destruction and it gives way to either futile fascist revanchists (Buchanan, the liberals freaking out about HK, etc.) or, uh, socialism

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

After 2011, China began an extensive blue water naval development in two stages: first, an iterative technical design stage of increasingly advanced ships and then a numerical buildup stage once it judged it had achieved technological equivalency with American designs. the Type 055 destroyer (for example) is technologically as advanced as any of its Western equivalents, and the PLAN has already commissioned six of them, with maybe two dozen planned in total. That’s a serious blue water surface fleet. In the same time period, we built three Zumwalts to shell goatherds.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Autism Sneaks posted:

if the Blizzard subforum is Free Hong Kong now then I propose C-SPAM change to One China

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
“Democracy” and “human rights” aren’t real things, they’re just euphemisms for whether or not you tongue America’s geopolitical balls or not

true democracy and real human rights are unattainable anywhere in the world until capitalism is defeated everywhere in the world

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Civilized Fishbot posted:

Does anyone deny the answer is "yeah, probably?"

A number of people have been jailed, and it is possible if not increasingly likely that the President of the United States himself is about to be impeached for less.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

GreyjoyBastard posted:

good, the counterrevolutionary scum defying the Functional Constituencies will finally get what they deserve

get out of this forum you awful, awful little fascist

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

ColtMcAsskick posted:

lmao you sound like the same type of rear end in a top hat who gets hard thinking about plowing through protestors blocking a freeway

As someone who’s blocked more than his share of freeways: blocking a freeway during an action is totally different from setting booby traps on a freeway

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

SKULL.GIF posted:

lmao oh no a couple fender benders

time to crush them beneath the treads

"just a couple fender benders" - james alexander fields, jr.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
"what part of 'all cops are bad' don't you understand you stupid loving tankies" - me, building pipe bombs to spring the bowl cut nazi out of jail

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
luis fernando camacho really showed us last week how direct action gets the goods

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
no these guys just wave groyper icons, love colonial flags, cash checks from ted cruz, and think mainland chinese are semi-literate apes

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
interestingly while none of the allied nations joined ww2 for any reason involving atrocities (real or imagined) against ethnic or religious minorities, several of the axis powers including germany did

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Bloodnose posted:

It would be great to just roll the tanks into Beijing, try the Standing Committee for genocide and watch them all swing, but that's not how it works with nuclear powers.

All you can do is wage an information warfare campaign to try to destabilize the government from the inside in hopes of spurring a revolution or coup that installs a substantially less evil regime.

this is so close to a "laughable xhosa girl nongqawuse" tier post can you go an inch farther

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Sergg posted:

Quality of life and happiness of the citizens are secondary to the acceptance of my pet ideology. Ideologies do not exist to improve our lives, humans are just fuel to be ground up in the machine that has the right branding stamp on it.

disagreed, which is why i unflinchingly uphold the chinese communist party, which according to irrefutable and universally agreed upon science brought about the largest positive change in life expectancy, in the largest population, in the shortest time. and is therefore greatest humanitarian institution in the history of civilization

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
semi related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mb0ojg99ag

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Rent-A-Cop posted:

It's worth noting that the USNI is a private "think tank" that routinely publishes poo poo like that, and wankfests about battleships.

a private think tank, staffed by naval personnel, located entirely within the campus of the US Naval Academy in annapolis,

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
you use the high speed rail in Europe to get from one side of the continent to the other, not to commute lol

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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
aren’t all the Russian tanks still on the Ukrainian border

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