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Just had a fantastc WD game, at the end, from low ground, I placed a ward, so I saw all five grouped up, I cast a high ground Death Ward w/ Aghs right besides their top rack with the bounces I killed all their cores while they ran around in circles confused. Herald DOTA is wild.
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People say anything works in lower rank tiers and this might be true if you vastly outskill the game but for your average teammate, people that pick cores that suck tend to be players that suck. I feel insanely better about a guy that picks Sniper mid than someone that picks QOP, Lina, or MK mid. Someone that picks Sniper might not be great but they're not going to be 3/11/2 either.
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Apr 2, 2024 23:37
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What's wrong with QOP and Lina lol
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Apr 2, 2024 23:42
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Nothing, I think TOOT is just saying those heroes have buttons and are harder to play well. Sniper you literally just sit back and go HO HO HA HA. He also has like the best attack animation in the game, so despite his low damage he's pretty easy to last hit with. Or even the odd deny at that MMR 
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flashman posted:What's wrong with QOP and Lina lol Just not particularly good at the moment. They're two of the lowest winrate mids in the game right now that are actually mid heroes. Pudge mid has a substantially higher winrate than either of them, and most people aren't exactly thrilled to get Pudge. And, they're not just bad in lower ranks, they have poo poo winrates in immortal too. TOOT BOOT fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Apr 2, 2024 23:55
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Ah. I don't mind really as long as it's a useful mid and not a support or something. Sniper mid gets a groan from me most of the time if I'm in a lane on their team though (when I'm the sniper. It's great)
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Apr 3, 2024 00:01
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i like it when teammates pick good heroes to carry with. saves me the trouble
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RealityWarCriminal posted:i like it when teammates pick good heroes to carry with. saves me the trouble Just won a game at 600 MMR with a carry Spirit Break. They had a mid oracle and he was 10/0 by 20min just feeding on our mid sniper. He stomped us until he just instantly dropped off. Like he was a menace for 30 min and then just vanished from impact and died like seven times. That was my first game against an Oracle core. It was quite an experience. I was p5 witch doctor and at one point I chatted that this carry SB needs to stop pushing the lane and last hitting under their tower and he just told me to "play better" so I tp to mid to help support sniper since he was 0/15. Low ranked Dota is clown shoes
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Apr 3, 2024 00:14
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alot of these support mid picks can do really well right up until they don't. man is arcane blink slept on or ? I have been loving this poo poo
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Apr 3, 2024 00:38
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flashman posted:alot of these support mid picks can do really well right up until they don't. id buy it more if it was cheaper. Great item though
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Try disruptor mid. Favor Q and E. Spam Q at level 3 and try to kill. If you do kill and level up level W once to send them back to fountain. At level 6 a they can softened with a Q and die to a nuke trap ult combo. Then roam. Rush phylactery if you're kicking rear end. Get mana boots and spell range orb if you are not kicking rear end. There's a good chance you help your team dominate first half of game and then back half or late worst case scenario you have a disruptor on your team
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Play undying mid, get a big lead, gank lanes with tombstone, and become unkillable until minute 45.
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Apr 3, 2024 02:04
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Diffusal blade undys rise up
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You guys are making suggestions in the wrong thread. Make this open-to-suggestion goon fail https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4057671
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Glory to Italia!
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Dr. Fraiser Chain posted:id buy it more if it was cheaper. Great item though
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I had such an awful Mid today as Necro vs a Viper. I felt 100% powerless. Just get spit on any time I get close, he out-regens level 1 Heartstopper. Got denied and fell behind on levels. Zeus got an early Phylactery and would just show up and cook me. They had so much magic damage, I'd just die if I pressed W. Somehow we fended them off long enough for the Drow to get huge, we won fight after getting Mega'd and pushed down their mid. Forced buybacks, retreat... Wait for them to get T5 Neutrals and their third Rosh. Somehow we win another fight, push down mid and actually win.
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I hate facing viper mid especially when they're radiant (level 1 nether toxin can just stack that camp for them so easily while they're still in lane and I don't know how to stop it). But it's often a win lane lose game scenario he's a fat lard it's hard for him to facilitate the side lanes if they're managing their creep
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Stack camps in the jungle and try to catch your waves to not miss out on XP and don't cross the river after a couple of levels. Don't be near the viper when he hits 6. When you hit 6 keep your eyes peeled for a chance to dunk someone with scythe in the side lanes. Keep stacking and eating creep camps in the jungle when you can't gank.
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Fortunately he didn't actually seem like a good Viper, just that [I'm guessing] Viper-Necro matchup favors the former. He kept Ulting me at max range and then I'd just W and walk up high ground until it wore off. I don't think I once stacked that camp right near the mid radiant tower, woops. I never think to do that for some reason, even though I love stacking camps as a 5.
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flashman posted:I hate facing viper mid especially when they're radiant (level 1 nether toxin can just stack that camp for them so easily while they're still in lane and I don't know how to stop it). it's insane that they go level 1 nethertoxin, let them stack the camp (or block it with a sentry) because if they're not going poison attack/corrosive skin then you're getting away with murder in that lane
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Just a point not at level one
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Man BB at low MMR is like a magic MMR button. We just had a BB that had 300k damange recieved, 161k damage dealt. He personally team wiped them solo about four times. The game went super long because we were stupid, but it was wild assuming we're done when four of us are dead, but then over the next two minutes he just kits them all over killing them again and again. We had a BH p5 that kept tracking never actually doing any damage, but he just hung back and kept tracking while BB just slayed them. I've never had so much gold in a dota game before.
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Super-NintendoUser posted:Man BB at low MMR is like a magic MMR button. We just had a BB that had 300k damange recieved, 161k damage dealt. He personally team wiped them solo about four times. The game went super long because we were stupid, but it was wild assuming we're done when four of us are dead, but then over the next two minutes he just kits them all over killing them again and again. We had a BH p5 that kept tracking never actually doing any damage, but he just hung back and kept tracking while BB just slayed them. I've never had so much gold in a dota game before. They did an experiment the other day where the highest ranked player played alone against 5 heralds, the high rank guy went bristleback. One team had 2 kills, the other had 40 plus https://youtu.be/j2K8hhBi8CM?si=Mq9HduU7scwXr_3q
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Lmao that poo poo was hilarious.
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Yeah I dunno if it's the same Heralds that beat the solo Immortal, but these guys had a very poor strategic game plan. Also very bad hero picks too considering they had to remake the game.
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I'm curious what's going on in my games where you look at the scoreboard after you lose trying to figure out what went wrong and your 14k hero damage hard carry is the thing that stands out like a sore thumb. A lot of times nothing seems particularly abnormal while you're playing and then it turns out they're bad at right clicking or something.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I'm curious what's going on in my games where you look at the scoreboard after you lose trying to figure out what went wrong and your 14k hero damage hard carry is the thing that stands out like a sore thumb. A lot of times nothing seems particularly abnormal while you're playing and then it turns out they're bad at right clicking or something. If you want to know why you're losing from the scoreboard, the stat you're looking for is tower damage
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There are many people in the potatoes allergic to just attacking dudes without using a skill lol
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I'm confident that every time I lose it's because of my teammates. No notes on my own game play.
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Of course bro, or if it was it was the wife's fault for calling etc.
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OGS-Remix posted:Yeah I dunno if it's the same Heralds that beat the solo Immortal, but these guys had a very poor strategic game plan. Also very bad hero picks too considering they had to remake the game. so you’re saying the herald players are bad. huh.
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Have been having a nice 6 win streak with my duo partner playing 4 Magnus with 3 necrophos. Really feels like a cheat code, having empower on top of all his initiate/ counter initiate skills. I'm sure we will find someone who can punish the laning phase eventually as we MMR up.
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Super-NintendoUser posted:Man BB at low MMR is like a magic MMR button. We just had a BB that had 300k damange recieved, 161k damage dealt. He personally team wiped them solo about four times. The game went super long because we were stupid, but it was wild assuming we're done when four of us are dead, but then over the next two minutes he just kits them all over killing them again and again. We had a BH p5 that kept tracking never actually doing any damage, but he just hung back and kept tracking while BB just slayed them. I've never had so much gold in a dota game before. low mmr players are either people who don't really understand what they're supposed to be doing, or people who have been told what to do by guides and don't understand why they're doing it or how it's supposed to make them win the first type are just kind of arbitrarily doing things that seem like they should work. attacking the other team seems like it should work, so they do it and bristle immediately kills them. they don't know why this happened, so they keep doing it forever and lose the second type are following a preset plan that they know usually works but don't actually understand why. bristleback is a brick wall for most of these plans because you have to play loving weird around him and even if they figure out that their plan is not going to work because the porcupine man is going to sneeze them to death they don't know how to come up with a new plan
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there need to be way more bells and whistles around killing towers or forcing rotations. or a battle arena/team deathmatch mode. i play with one friend and we alternate who's higher MMR every couple months, but he's in the "gotta get kills" mindset and it's frustrating watching him dive and die chasing an enemy he's already kicked out of lane, just get those last hits and scare them away for the next 5 min while they flame their supports for not getting a salve, you don't need to get +1 kill on the scoreboard that bad
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Plank Walker posted:there need to be way more bells and whistles around killing towers or forcing rotations. or a battle arena/team deathmatch mode. i play with one friend and we alternate who's higher MMR every couple months, but he's in the "gotta get kills" mindset and it's frustrating watching him dive and die chasing an enemy he's already kicked out of lane, just get those last hits and scare them away for the next 5 min while they flame their supports for not getting a salve, you don't need to get +1 kill on the scoreboard that bad getting kills is fun and getting enough of them usually makes you win so just accept that mindset as on the right track and count your blessings that he's not one of those people who naturally assumes that farming forever is the way to go because he saw an antimage achieve apotheosis in his first game and treated it like a religious epiphany
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Play Overthrow 3.0 instead, it scratches the instant gratification itch of "I want to get a broken hero build and kill people" but in a format where it's nearly impossible to be emotionally invested in the outcome.
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Not played in a good few weeks - waiting for Crownfall, but last night coached a friend who always supports and wanted to expand to offlane, recommended them Death Prophet and coached them through to a 15/0/20 victory, most fun i've had in Dota for a good while !
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Coaching owns. I notice a lot more in a game when I’m not balls deep in my hero.
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playing core ftw. laning can be rough but it's easier than it looks
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I can't tell if I like right click items or aghs refresher more on invoker
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