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Super Fan posted:*Louis He should probably consider being somewhat apologetic at this point.
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The pathetic, self-loathing desperation pervading all of those accounts of Louis CK really illustrates how emotionally stunted and needy these men are. His daughters are 15 and 12, it's difficult to imagine how they're processing this.
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Nov 10, 2017 03:48
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muscles like this! posted:Terry Crews has officially reported his groping incident to the LAPD. It eventually came out that the man responsible was Adam Venit, a top level executive at WME, Terry's talent agency. Venit has been placed on leave pending an investigation and Crews has left WME. I'm curious as to the thought process behind sexually assaulting a man who could tear your arms off with minimal effort.
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precision posted:Yeah, I was just making sure I hadn't missed anything. At this point contacting a newspaper like the NY Times is feasible. A few months ago it probably would have been ignored, less so now.
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Nov 10, 2017 15:43
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Nov 11, 2017 04:13
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How long now until people start preemptively coming forward to admit their crimes so as to avoid some of the backlash? Not happening. Nobody sees themselves as a villain.
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Nov 11, 2017 22:13
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esperterra posted:I agree with Cranston 100%, tbh. If any of these people are willing to put in the real work to rehabilitate themselves, then they should be forgiven. Their careers will never be the same again, but maybe they can still be involved in the work they love. How would you feel if someone who raped you was reinstalled into a position in power in your industry because they went to therapy and wrote a mea culpa? Forgiveness is one thing, and is something people can decide on an individual basis. But these abusers should absolutely not be working in movies again.
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Nov 14, 2017 21:25
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Basebf555 posted:See my post above. There's no all powerful ruler of Hollywood that will just declare that Weinstein and the rest can't work in movies again. It's up to society to decide that, if the industry senses that we're ok with it, they will work again, straight up. "Society" making a decision that would invalidate and re-traumatize their victims would still be wrong. Society had previously made a collective decision that sexual assault is not a big deal and if you accuse a powerful man of it your career is over, and that was wrong too -- not going along with societal consensus requires leadership and integrity, which we generally see as virtues.
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Nov 14, 2017 21:37
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Their road to "real growth" doesn't mean poo poo to someone who goes to see a movie and the guy who once cornered them in a room while jerking off is up there on the big screen. Or who has to drop out of a production because the now-forgiven person will be working on it.
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Nov 14, 2017 21:51
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Basebf555 posted:Well I definitely would say that if I were someone out there considering hiring someone like a Louis CK, in addition to the years of work I'd want to see him out there doing first(outreach to victims, speaking to raise awareness, etc.), I would also want to see that he was forgiven by the women he hurt directly. Which is up to them, that's something for them to decide personally whether they choose to forgive. There are a lot of people who are going to prefer to keep their history being attacked private and they sure as hell shouldn't be put in a situation where they have to either disclose or drop out of a production.
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Nov 14, 2017 22:59
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I know, I was mostly talking about guys like Spacey and Weinstein And how would it feel to be someone who Kevin Spacey sexually assaulted 30 years ago, seeing him get a big comeback role as an old man and the accompanying redemption narrative? Going to a movie or watching TV and seeing him in a preview? It's insane the degree to which people will try to accommodate abusers while ignoring their victims.
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Nov 14, 2017 23:04
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:There's a difference between being able to live your life and getting back the old job that you used to leverage your position to abuse people This.
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Nov 16, 2017 16:29
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lelandjs posted:Another person has come forward accusing Jeffrey Tambor. This is so goddamn creepy.
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Nov 17, 2017 15:30
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Gluten Freeman posted:John Lasseter of Pixar the latest to be accused: These stories are so fuckin' creepy and gross.
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Nov 21, 2017 22:01
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GonSmithe posted:Bourdain has also not worked in a kitchen for the last 20 years. And he does BJJ! So basically, if you want to age gracefully, work out.
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Dec 12, 2017 21:22
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I've lived in NYC basically my whole life and never ate at a Batali restaurant, so I guess I am Extremely Woke ...unless getting gelato at Eataly a few times counts in which case I am a Huge Piece Of poo poo
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Is Eataly a Batali thing? I had no idea. The Eataly brand isn't his, but his restaurant group owns the one in Flatiron.
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DC Murderverse posted:gently caress roman polanski bad advice, it would seem
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21 Muns posted:If this isn't a bullshit post facto excuse, then that just means that this falls on his handlers for not keeping him somewhere where he can't harm himself or others. This is honestly part of the job when you're working with geriatrics. When someone has dementia, their judgement and inhibition can be seriously impaired, while aggression and impulsiveness increase. You see people be kind and thoughtful one minute, and then do and say the most vile things you can think of the next. It's not because they believe those things or would even think of doing them if they weren't impaired, it's just that their brains are literally breaking down and dying. Work in an Alzheimer's ward of a hospital long enough and you will see people masturbate in front of you, smear feces on you or on themselves, and have you and your coworkers be called every insult, epithet, and racial slur imaginable. It's not because the patients are deviants or bad people. You talk about his "handlers"; what exactly do you think someone's nurses and home care attendants are? Obviously those people should get as much professional support as possible and nobody has to work in a situation that makes them feel unsafe, but if a family has a member who has dementia and whose behavior is becoming sexually aggressive, the solution isn't to get less caretaking help. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jan 10, 2018 |
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ihatepants posted:Sexual abuse is unacceptable, but when the only source is the Daily Mail, you don't even need to do any critical thinking to cast doubt on the story. They're even more well known than Breitbart for just outright making poo poo up over the years and spreading misinformation. Like the time they blamed autism on the fact that women have started to work and they argued that women should quit their jobs because of it. I Believe All Newspapers
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Jan 10, 2018 02:15
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I could believe that Michael Douglas is basically his character from Basic Instinct, except an actor instead of a cop.
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Jan 10, 2018 08:38
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Yeah, I'm not quite following the argument that it's Mark Wahlberg's responsibility to help the studio recoup costs after hiring a sex monster.
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Jan 14, 2018 01:14
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Snowman_McK posted:Because it was an extra shoot positioned largely as a symbolic statement against abuse in Hollywood. A symbolic statement that Wahlberg insisted on being paid to make because he's a loving sociopath. Symbolic statement my rear end. They couldn't release the film with Spacey as a part of the main cast. Don't treat PR as canon.
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muscles like this! posted:What about the anonymous reports that Wahlberg used his contract's "co-star approval" clause to say that he wouldn't approve the replacement unless they paid him? Good for him. Remember, every dollar that isn't going to cast and crew is going towards studio profits. He's not stealing candy from children here.
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21 Muns posted:Maybe you're just struggling with the realization that you're a lovely person? This isn't helpful.
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Jan 16, 2018 21:25
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Jan 18, 2018 04:31
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:I don't know what the hell the writer was thinking doing this. I think a lot of the criticism towards the story is pretty bullshit, but responding to someone by insulting their physical appearance is basically never a good idea. There are plenty of legitimate things she could've said, but "ur old and have bad hair" just makes her look like an rear end in a top hat. And talking about retweets and "relevance". Not good.
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Jan 18, 2018 05:13
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Detective No. 27 posted:Not Hollywood per se, but WWE Superstar Enzo Amore has been dropped from the company amidst rape charges. My name is Enzo Amore and I'm a certified G, and a bona fide rapist
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Jan 23, 2018 21:58
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Some people are flawed. In fact, sometimes their flaws are a part of why they create interesting art!
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I'd be sorta disappointed if it turned out a 70's giallo director wasn't some kind of huge creep
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Honest Thief posted:Yahtzee's the dude who ranted a lot about how love is just chemicals in your brain and that's always a red flag. Every emotion is just chemicals in your brain, that's how neurotransmitters work
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chitoryu12 posted:This is actually something I have a bit of personal experience with due to my ex-fiancee, and the issue of gray areas of consent is something being talked about right now so it's a pretty appropriate place. Taking advantage of someone because they're depressed or manic or have trauma isn't really a consent issue. It's still, like, bad and wrong, obviously -- but it's also really problematic to say that people shouldn't be allowed to have certain kinds of sex if they have X or Y mental health diagnosis. If someone is psychotic, has dementia/delirium, is intoxicated, or has something else going on where reality testing is impaired, then it becomes a consent issue. "Coercion" gets misused a whole lot as well. Promising to give someone a job if they have sex with you is unethical, but it isn't coercion; threatening to fire them if they don't have sex with you is.
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chitoryu12 posted:https://twitter.com/IWas17HeWas36/status/1010337544637067264 It's just like I've always said: "If a 50-year-old man has a Skrillex haircut, he's probably a rapist."
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I find it hard to take that seriously, that's SOP for the internet-at-large. To flip that around, whenever people get deeply concerned about concern trolling or whatnot from The Hordes (as distinct from obviously malicious and actionable behavior like stalking, SWATting, etc), what's the remedy for that? Logging off.
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Jul 20, 2018 16:53
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AlternateAccount posted:So then... what's the statute of limitations on saying that sort of poo poo? If he'd made those tweets today, people would call for his head, sure. How much time has to pass? Exactly 1267 days. I wonder when celebrities will realize that long, defensive apologies do them absolutely no favors. "These were bad jokes and I shouldn't have made them, I'm sorry" would have served Gunn so much better than what he posted.
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Safeword posted:Why should rape and molestation jokes be allowed on a public platform, though? Beyond the dubious "free speech" qualities, what does acceptance of that material give anyone? For a start, humor can be a way for survivors of rape or molestation to cope with or take ownership of their experiences.
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-Blackadder- posted:Regardless of where you fall on the larger movement, seeing a piece of poo poo like Harvey Weinstein in cuffs is one of the greatest comeuppance moments. I love mean little movies like this. It's practically it's own genre, though I'm not sure what you'd call it. Friedkin-likes? Cinema du misanthropie? Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Aug 9, 2018 |
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When you think about it, a 19-year-old dating a man with a mental age of 14 is highly problematic.
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AlternateAccount posted:Finding out that you left your wife/kid to hook up with this woman who then turns out to, assuming this is all true, be a bit of a real creepo could be really destructive to your psyche. Let's not go down this road.
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Just a reminder that Robin Wright decided to marry Sean Penn.
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