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DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

"I know how you types are, kicking down my doors for fun! Well pack your things and get out!"

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1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

https://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=150299

Moved to lpix.

1234567890num fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Feb 10, 2018

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
:stare: Even now I don't feel like I completely understand how double touch on the DS works, but we got Melissa out of there and that's what counts. Back in the old days when I tried to play this myself on an emulator, the stopping point for me was the fact that I didn't know how to change the emulator settings to be rotated. :v: Ah, sweet youth...

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
That's a pretty clever workaround.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

EagerSleeper posted:

:stare: Even now I don't feel like I completely understand how double touch on the DS works, but we got Melissa out of there and that's what counts.

If there are two touched places on the DS then it will only register the spot between them. This game and its sequel are the only games (at least the ones I remember) that utilize this mechanic. Also we didn't actually got Melissa out. Kyle and Melissa are still in Room 218.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

https://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=150312

Moved to lpix.

1234567890num fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Feb 12, 2018

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato
I know this plotline eventually gets resolved, but had completely forgot about this scene. Is there anyone in the hotel that you don't confront? Helen? :psyduck:

RedMagus
Nov 16, 2005

Male....Female...what does it matter? Power is beautiful, and I've got the power!
Grimey Drawer

tomanton posted:

I know this plotline eventually gets resolved, but had completely forgot about this scene. Is there anyone in the hotel that you don't confront? Helen? :psyduck:

It's those old cop/point & click protag instincts, everyone gotta get thrown unto the interrogation room and get interacted with in every way!

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

tomanton posted:

I know this plotline eventually gets resolved, but had completely forgot about this scene. Is there anyone in the hotel that you don't confront? Helen? :psyduck:

I want to say yes, but I'm having a hard time remembering.

Pyre of Word Salsa
Apr 25, 2017

I pray for a color palette that will not come.

tomanton posted:

I know this plotline eventually gets resolved, but had completely forgot about this scene. Is there anyone in the hotel that you don't confront? Helen? :psyduck:

Don't quote me on this, but I think there's one or two people you don't confront.

Pyre of Word Salsa fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Feb 4, 2018

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

https://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=150324

Moved to lpix.

1234567890num fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Feb 13, 2018

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Double update today since the last one is very short.

Music: Play It Again


Before going, I ran into Melissa's dad, Kevin. Kevin asked me about...



The dinner menu
No, that ain't it. He didn't ask me about the menu.
Work
No, that ain't it. Kevin told me he's a surgeon at a hospital down in Santa Monica, but... He didn't ask about my job. Doubt he cares...

Melissa

Music: Midnight
That's right. He wanted to know if Melissa had told me anything special.

Music: Play It Again


Then I sat down and had a delicious meal made by Rosa the Wonder Maid. After dinner, Summer came by and yapped at me about...



Drinking together
No, that ain't it. Louie's the one who asked me to have a drink with him. ...Which I plan to do.
Showing him around
No, that ain't it. Helen's the one who asked me to help her to the restaurant.

Technically in this timeline Helen also offers us to drink together. She won't if we refuse to escort her.

A bookmark

Music: Midnight
That's right. Summer wanted to ask me about the box his notebook was in. Wanted to know if there was still a bookmark in the box.

Music: Play It Again


It was based on a painting by a guy named...



Alan
No, that ain't it. Alan's the name on the fountain pen that Louie picked up.
Pinkie Rabbit
No, that ain't it. Pinkie Rabbit's the name of the cartoon character on Melissa's puzzle.

Osterzone

Music: Midnight
That's right. It was a painter named Osterzone. The name of the painting is Angel Opening a Door.

Music: Play It Again


I fixed the switchboard, got power back to the room, and got her out of there. The room Melissa was locked in was...



Room 219
No, that ain't it. Room 219's where she and her dad are staying.
Room 217
No, that ain't it. Room 217's where the other Kyle Hyde stayed six months ago.

Room 218

Music: Midnight
That's right. Melissa got herself locked in 218.

Music: Play It Again


Once we freed Melissa, he showed up. When I asked him where he'd been, he said...



Looking at a painting
No, that ain't it. Mila was the one looking at the painting. She was standing in front of a painting with an apple in it.
Solving a puzzle
No, that ain't it. I was the one doing a puzzle in Melissa's room. I put the puzzle together and found a message on the back of it. It was a message from Melissa's mom.

Actually, Mila was looking at a painting with 3 apples in it.

On the roof

Music: Midnight
That's right. Said he'd been up on the roof. When I heard that, I decided to go and check out the roof myself. When I got there, I ran into Iris.

Music: Play It Again


I get the feeling that all the guests here are hiding secrets... And why Melissa's mom vanished is just one of them. There's also the guy with my name who stayed in 217 six months ago. The story about that bookmark pictures got my wheels turning, too.

Music: Silent Moon
Too many mysteries in my life. And I'm so drat tired... Well, guess I better poke around and see what else I can find. Who knows? Something here may get me a step closer to Bradley.

RedMagus
Nov 16, 2005

Male....Female...what does it matter? Power is beautiful, and I've got the power!
Grimey Drawer
For someone who complains about getting involved in other people's business, you sure stick your nose into things Hyde.

Also, I love Silent Moon, it's that right dose of contemplative as well as melancholic for a detective.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

RedMagus posted:

I love Silent Moon, it's that right dose of contemplative as well as melancholic for a detective.

Silent Moon is pretty good, but my favorite is Violet Sky. It plays at just the right moment to give some hope to bleak situations.

Also, on an unrelated note, it is now the end of chapter 3 and there's been no game over banner suggested. I really recommend making one, or else I will be forced to use the lovely one I made in literally 2 minutes:

RedMagus
Nov 16, 2005

Male....Female...what does it matter? Power is beautiful, and I've got the power!
Grimey Drawer

1234567890num posted:

Also, on an unrelated note, it is now the end of chapter 3 and there's been no game over banner suggested. I really recommend making one, or else I will be forced to use the lovely one I made in literally 2 minutes:


Stealing this for my Hyde/Dunning fanfic website

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

RedMagus posted:

Stealing this for my Hyde/Dunning fanfic website

...um... okay. :raise: I don't think it's good but sure. Go ahead.

Well, I guess I'll just use that one. At least for now.

1234567890num fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Feb 7, 2018

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Same as previous updates (Sapu)




As usual, Kyle's phone call with Rachel is a bit different.

Rachel? What now?

Hey, sweetie. Who's Bradley?

...What?

After you got off the phone with Ed, I heard him talking to himself. Well, muttering is more like it. He said something about giving up the search for Bradley. C'mon, Kyle. Who's Bradley?



Both of the choices are noticeably ruder than before.

Can't talk now!

I can't get into it now.

...OK, I get it. I won't push you.

Thanks.

And the rest is the same.













Nothing special.

We just chatted. Nothing specific.



Nothing to do here since we didn't press anything. Kevin won't leave if we back out. Just walk a few steps...

Music: Insomnia
(Wait a minute...)
(What did Kevin say?)
It seems you've spoken with my daughter Melissa on previous occasions. Would you mind telling me what sort of conversations you had?
I wonder what Kevin's so worried about?
Now let's...
(Wait a minute...)
(What did Kevin say?)
Kyle Hyde... Interesting...
Something about my name set Kevin's mind on its ear.

Music: Same as previous updates


Well, he's here but Kyle's hungry. Let's eat first.







We can't exit from this conversation, so we ask all the question then talk to Iris who's blocking the restaurant. We can't get in without talking to her.







Nope. Didn't see her.

Nope.

Truly?

Yeah. Truly. Cross my heart and all that jazz.



Iris' response to us not pressing is different.

It was truly shocking!

You understand don't you? Surely you do!

Sure. Why not?

Music: Slow Steps
I'm glad I had the chance to talk to you, Mr. Hyde. I'm feeling a bit calmer now.

If you'll excuse me?

Iris finishes talking and saunters off.

We managed a conversation without pissing of Iris! :toot:

Music: Sapu










We can't exit the restaurant before getting the doll and asking Martin all the questions.



Yeah, I read it.

Yeah, I read it.



You read it!?



We're pressing this one.

...Hold it.

There's still that temptation to put that AA smiley.



Screw you, Shakespeare!

I take it you didn't want me to read it?

I most certainly did not!

Still no reason to bust a gut, you know? After all, you took a buzz through my package, right?

...Yes, but...

So why are you tryin' to give me guff? I just finished a good meal. I was full and happy, which is pretty rare for me.

But now I'm just pissed off. So do yourself a favor and get outta my sight!

How dare you, sir! How dare you speak to me like that! You're nothing more than a common thug! A brigand!

Music: Easy Feeling
I expected better from you, Mr. Hyde. Congratulations, sir! You have proven me a fool!

Summer leaves the restaurant in a huff.

Music: Hangover Blues
What's going on in here?

There's someone yelling behind me.

Huh?



Did something happen? What? What happened! Tell me!

Nothing to tell. Guy came in here and started shooting off at the mouth. I gave him what for and sent him packing.

You did WHAT?! You had an argument with Mr. Summer? You...you had words?

Not many.

Oh my goodness! I have to tell Mr. Dunning. This is terrible! Oh dear...

Whatever you gotta do.

Rosa turns and hurries out of the restaurant.

Music: Over Easy
And now we just need to get out of the restaurant.







Music: Drunken Waltz
Hey, Hyde! Whatcha gone'n done now? Mr. Summer's spittin' nails!

So? He's a weak sister. Who cares what he thinks?

Unlike you, Summer's a special guest of this hotel! He likes it here, ya see? Likes it a lot! He was gonna tell his friends about it-his rich writer friends. But you went and ticked him off, and now the whole deal's in the crapper! Way to go, pal. My hotel's reputation just got flushed.

Um, are you sure he ACTUALLY LIKES this hotel?

Pack yer things and get outta here, ya bum!

Huh?

Music: Dream's End
(That wasn't supposed to happen. I was just tired of him whining at me.)





drat.




Louie: 5
Rosa: 3
Dunning: 3
Martin: 2
Melissa: 1
Iris: 1

Yes, the banner's very lovely but I literally made it in 2 minutes.


Music: Sapu


Hey, don't get upset.

I guess I shouldn't have read it, but it was good stuff.

...Excuse me?

It's one of your books, right?

Yes, it is.

Did you really like it?

Yeah, I suppose.

Mr. Hyde, I apologize for my earlier behavior. I had no cause to raise my voice.



Turns out flattery works not only on Iris.



Don't ask me.

I never heard of him.

Hold on a minute.

What's wrong?





We can't leave the restaurant without finishing this conversation too.



Before we leave we can't forget about...





...the star!



Mila won't appear outside until we talk to Louie after this scene.

RedMagus
Nov 16, 2005

Male....Female...what does it matter? Power is beautiful, and I've got the power!
Grimey Drawer

1234567890num posted:

...um... okay. :raise: I don't think it's good but sure. Go ahead.

Well, I guess I'll just use that one. At least for now.

Was attempting to crack a joke since it's rainbow color + 2 dudes. My sense of humor is cracked at best though.

Martin's blowing up here, at least coming through the first time, always seemed out of the blue. It always seemed like human instinct to browse through a book they found, especially if it was a package that got delivered and they don't know why.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
"I'm too full of cake to fight. The cake that you're not getting a bite of. So don't ask."

Pyre of Word Salsa
Apr 25, 2017

I pray for a color palette that will not come.
The Secret Word of The Secret Word is...

supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Same as previous updates (Sapu)




We talk to Mila like normal. Also, that's clearly not a painting with an apple in it. Then Helen asks us to escort her.



No! I'm busy!



I'm busy.

Wh...what?! You aren't going to help me?



That's right.

I said I'm busy.



You seem healthy to me. I'm sure you can make it on your own. Maybe Dunning has a walker you can borrow.

Well, I never! I can see what sort of man you are, Mr. Hyde! Good day!

Helen gives me the evil eye and starts to shuffle away.

Yo, Hyde!

Someone's yelling.



For once, Louie, I'm glad to see you.

Eh? No foolin'?

See that old lady over there? She needs someone to help her to the restaurant.

Yeah? So? What, I'm a cane now?

That's part of your job, isn't it? Guest relations and all that?

Yeah yeah, fine. I'll chase Grandma Patch down in a sec.

But hey, check this, man!

And then Louie tells us about the pen and we notice the engraving in it. The conversation is the same. After that...

Well, I better go take care of that old bat. Later, man.

(...Hmm. How can I read this?)

And we'll end up on the second floor. We can talk to Helen in the restaurant again and she'll give the same response. I'm surprised this doesn't lead to a game over.

For this timeline we won't escort her. But there is a third option we can take that not many people know.



Oh, fine.

Oh, for the love of... Fine. Let's go.

Oh, thank you! I'm so sorry to inconvenience you like this.



And we're escorting her like normal. Let's get the bookmark and see if Helen can help us look.



Fine, we can't get up the stairs. Let's go to the front lobby. Maybe we can get some coins there.



How about the staff door?



Fine let's go to the restaurant... just as soon as we visit the kitchen.



:sigh: Looks like we can't explore this hotel with Helen after all. How sad... Let's just get this over with.

This is the restaurant.

I'd like to say thank you, but...

I'm simply too tired!

What?





Helen finishes yammering and goes into the restaurant.

Yup. Because we dick around Helen doesn't invite us to drink together. :negative:

Everything else proceeds as if we escorted her. Just keep in mind that the one we're going with is the timeline where we don't escort her.

For some reason Kyle won't examine the box to find the bookmark before dealing with the pen. Knocking Room 219 yields nothing too.





(Guess I'll give it back to the kid.)

That happen when we try to go to our room after dealing with the pen but before giving back the doll.



Nothing's stopping us from actually going to our room and getting the bookmark, though Kyle thoughts are a bit different than before. Not worth showing off.




Knock

Got a second?

...Oh, sorry...



Fair enough.

Wow. That's a stupid event flag to make us give the doll back first.





I didn't show this in the original timeline but this happens there too. You're not going to see many of the 'no questions' screen while playing.



... Um... This is way too hard! And stupid! How is anyone supposed to solve this? :rolleyes:

Quit

Sn-sniff... Sniff...

Hold on. I'm almost done.

Maybe Melissa can help.



:sigh: Why do I even bother...



Anyway, the reason I quit is to show that you can see the puzzle on the table now! Not just the box!

Puzzle



:airquote: someone :airquote:

Anyway, we solve the puzzle.




The quit button in this one doesn't work. It just repeats Melissa crying and Kyle's last line.



This is the one we would've gotten if we asked Kevin in front of the restaurant.



You'll notice that the question about Kyle's name is removed. Why? :iiam:

Before you ask, no. There's no special reaction for the bookmark. Also there's a new response to an old question.


Why are you asking about her mom? (We asked that gray question to get this question. In the original timeline we asked this in front of the restaurant.)

What's the story with the kid's mother?

Is it that she's not coming home?

What?!

Melissa, what have you been telling Mr. Hyde about your mother?!



Dammit! drat it all!



Mr. Hyde... Every family has its own circumstances which dictate its existence.

Your knowledge of my family comes from the mouth of a child. Please remember that when drawing conclusions and passing judgement.

This scene is optional. We only have to ask the original yellow question. It's a nice touch that Kevin reacts differently since Melissa's actually here.

We can't actually get out of this conversation without asking that original yellow question, so let's just do that.





We finished a time period without a game over! :toot:

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

1234567890num posted:

I won't have cheesy 100% completionists breaking the flow of this story, Hyde! Pack your things and get out!

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato
Poor Helen. I never did with a NG+, why again are some of Kyle's dialogue options way ruder (besides your choices)?

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

tomanton posted:

Poor Helen. I never did with a NG+, why again are some of Kyle's dialogue options way ruder (besides your choices)?

The ruder choices are for Rachel, not Helen. As for why, :iiam:

Pyre of Word Salsa
Apr 25, 2017

I pray for a color palette that will not come.
Kyle "definitely not a cop" Hyde has a reputation to keep up in New Game +.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Just to be clear, the new game + is the ORIGINAL timeline. Kyle's being rude in the alternate one, which uses the regular new game.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Kyle is rude in every timeline. I like that they made that design choice, because in almost every instance Kyle is ruder than the dialogue choice you made. It really underscores that Kyle isn't just the player's avatar.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

I get the feeling that Mr Hyde is not a nice person...

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Same as previous updates




The quit button here won't work. We have to return the bookmark AND ask the question.





Melissa locked herself in Room 218. We can't enter the roof now. So we have to find Louie.



Um...wires?

Wiring? Why? You want me to tap somebody's phone or something?

I love that that's his first thought.

Ha ha ha ha! Man, stop thinkin' like a cop, will ya?

I need ya to fix some electrical wiring on the switchboard.

Switchboard?

Yup. We gotta fix the switchboard and get power to Room 218.

What're you talking about?

Then everything else proceeds as normal, but I feel like we're forgetting something...





Oh, right. We can only examine the podium when Louie isn't there. Which means we can examine it in chapter 3 between meeting Helen and reading the engraving on the pen. We can also examine it when Louie's with us (right now).







You guys talked about Kyle being rude. Well, we're about to see how rude he can get.





Just a reminder, during confrontations not pressing will just loop indefinitely.

Stop being so selfish!

Stop being so selfish.



You get scolded for something?



Just be thankful you got someone to care about what you're doing. Lots of kids don't even have parents. Don't be a brat.

You don't understand anything, mister! And you don't understand anything about me!

Yeah, you're right. I don't know how you feel.

...Huh?

I got no idea. That's why I'm asking you right now. So talk.

Loop and skip.





You're wrong. He knows.

Give your dad some credit, kid. He'll know what it means.



You know, your old man's got a tough job. Takes smarts to be a sawbones. I bet he knows all kinds of stuff.

I bet he doesn't!! He doesn't know anything! Especially not about my mom and me!

Hey, kid?

...What?

When I was a kid, I was just like you.

You were a kid?

Yeah. Your dad was too.

No way!

It's true. But once you grow up, you forget what it's like. So yeah. I don't know why you're upset. No clue. But I'm trying to find out. And that's why I'm talking to you now. So why don't you ask your dad?

Loop and skip.





Is this the first time you've stayed here?



My dad said it was the first time.

...Mom...

Hey, kid. Tell me that again, will you?

Loop and skip.



Those aren't so bad, right? Only the first choice is rude. Well, that's about to change. We're about to be cruel. :unsmigghh:

Know why your dad lied?



He enjoys tricking you!

He wanted you to feel like a fool! I bet he's laughing it up right now...



He's...he's terrible! I hate him!

Know why your mom left?



It's your fault!

Yeah, totally your fault. Nice one, kid. Way to ruin your dad's life.



...WHAAAAAAAA!!!

Let's talk about your mom leaving.



Your dad's clueless!

Your dad's got no clue. I bet he's just here for the bar.



...WHAAAAAAAA!!!

Music: Countdown
Mister.

What?

For some reason Melissa's last line automatically advances. Maybe to show Kyle cutting her off.

You're a JERK!

...Huh?

You don't understand anything about me! You're a big jerk and I hate you!!!

...Sniff...

Waaaaaaaaaa!!

I...sniff...I never...

I never, ever want to be a grown-up like you! NEVER! WHAAAAAAAA!!

Nice, Hyde. Real nice.

Music: Sunset Men
I returned to Room 215.

Wow, that could have gone better. You're a real class act, Hyde.

Always screwing things up just like this... Hell, who are you kidding? You'll never find Bradley.

You're a total loser, Hyde. Always have been. Always will be.

Hyde spent the rest of the night brooding in his room.




Louie: 5
Rosa: 3
Dunning: 3
Martin: 2
Melissa: 2
Iris: 1

I actually laugh at this. Kyle's being extremely cruel and then realizing that it could've gone better. No poo poo. I couldn't make any of that up.





No wonder they cause a game over. Well, actually only the second question causes a game over. As long as he doesn't blame Melissa for her mother disappearance Kyle can be as cruel as he wants.


Music: Sapu


The roof won't open until we ask Kevin this question. The quit button here also doesn't work. That seems to be a theme lately... Also, that gray question have disappeared (I didn't actually ask them, I just showed them off).



I came to see you.

Just wanted to find you.

Thought maybe we could chat for a bit.

...Pardon? You came to see me? Why on earth... Were you...were you FOLLOWING me? GO AWAY!



This should've been more famous than paperclip.

Iris turns and scampers off the rooftop.



You were smiling. Of course she'll be freaked out.



Next time: Chapter 4!

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
"In hindsight, maybe telling an eight-year-old she ruined her dad's life wasn't the best idea."

Oh Kyle.

RedMagus
Nov 16, 2005

Male....Female...what does it matter? Power is beautiful, and I've got the power!
Grimey Drawer
At least on some of the dialog in the Worst Timeline, you can tell it's not Kyle being mean, but just shooting his mouth off before thinking about what he's saying. Which let's face it, a lot of us do from time to time, especially in the heat of the moment.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017





Just wanted to show that there's no sunset anymore. :(

(Might help to find out about that Osterzone fellow, too.)

Music: Big Dreams


After we walk a few steps, there's beeping sound.

It's my pager...



But before we do that...



Take the time to enjoy the moon. Not sure how the moon immediately appears after sunset, but there you go.

Also, the moon in 28 December 1979 was not a full moon but who cares?



Phone

Music: Serenity


Actually, Rachel says "Red Crown Enterprises, this is Rachel" but I'm too lazy to make a new GIF.

It's me. You need something?

Got a message from Ed. Said he's going to be late getting back in.

Left you alone again, did he?

I know! It's pretty unbelievable to me, too. Silly man prefers the company of his old LAPD cronies to a fun girl like me.

Anyway, he wanted me to ask if you needed anything. So do you?

I need him to give you a raise.

Wow, Kyle is actually nice to Rachel in this original (New Game +) timeline.

Oh, aren't you the sweetest thing? But seriously, Kyle, do you need anything? All you have to do is ask.

As long as you're offering, there is this one thing...

Let me have it, handsome.

I need information on a guy named Osterzone.

Oster... Osterzone? Are you making this up, Kyle?

If only. No, he's real. Painted a picture called Angel Opening a Door.

He's a painter? Why on earth do you need information on a painter?

Look, it's a long story, and-

I know. You hate long stories. They're a pain in your behind. Osterzone, right?

Yeah. Thanks, Rach.

Rach? Hm... OK, Kyle, I'll give you a ring when I've got something. Bye!

Right.



Insert knocking sound here.



Who's that?

Psssst... ... PSSSSSSSSTTT!! Yo, Hyde! It's me! Hullo?





Music: Easy Feeling
I distracted Dunning and borrowed the spare office key. Just like old times... Anyway, here ya go, my man. The key to Room 217.





Thanks. Now I can get this show on the road.

Just don't get nabbed by Dunning or Rosa, OK? Ya can't let 'em know I boosted that key!

Don't worry. If I get caught, I'll do my time like a man.

Hey, tell me something... You learn anything about that fountain pen?

Naw, man. Asked Mr. Smith 'bout it, but I struck out. Said nobody named Alan's been here in the last couple of weeks or so.

Yeah?

Who d'ya think it belongs to, man?

I don't know, but I'm going to hold on to it for a bit.

I want to check something out.

No skin off my hump.



Good, man, good. Then it's back to the grind for me.

Louie finishes yapping and heads off.

Music: Monochrome


And so we head to room 217.



Use room 217 key on knob

I used the key and opened Room 217.

Knob



So this is the room where the other Kyle Hyde stayed a few months back. According to Louie, it hasn't been used since.



Music: Straight Chaser



Curtain There's a shower curtain around the bathtub.
Bathtub Bathtub's clean as can be.
Toilet Toilet's clean. Good thing, too. I don't want anything to do with a dirty one.
Tissue Toilet paper. Man's best friend.
Towels Fresh, clean towels. I'm definitely taking some of those with me.
Sink And another sink you could eat off of.
Bottles A bottle of shampoo.
Mirror Mirror's sparkly. Rosa even cleans the rooms that no one uses. What a trooper.
Lamp There's a light above the mirror.





Chair That's another wooden chair. Hope this place never catches on fire...
Table It's a round wooden table.
Tea set A tea set? Huh. Didn't know L.A. folks liked tea so much.
Menu A restaurant menu's on top of the table.
Fridge What's under the TV? Oh, it's a fridge. Nice.
TV The television's not turned on. Too bad, I'd like to see the news.
Dresser It's a dresser.

Left envelope There's some hotel letterhead here. Several sheets have already been used.
Right envelope It's a hotel envelope.
Lighter There's a lighter in the drawer.
This... I've seen this before...
...Now I remember. This is the lighter Bradley always used.

This is proof. Now I know about the guy who stayed here six months ago. It was Bradley.

Or maybe someone else uses that kind of lighter. Have you ever thought of that?





Window I can see the highway from the window.
Painting There's a painting on the floor. ...That's weird. Why is it there?

Zoomed-in painting It's a painting of some apples. I still don't get why it's on the floor.
Paper slightly visible to the right of the painting
What's this?

There's a man and a girl in the photo. They look like father and daughter.
Wonder who they are.
Tables There are small tables on either side of the bed.
Brochure A hotel brochure. Different room, same brochure.
Phone Same phone I've seen in every other room.
Bed I'd love to see just one bed that looked like it's been slept in.
Wall lamp An ugly lamp is attached to the wall.
Darker wall Looks like there used to be a painting there.
Table lamp There's a lamp on top of the table. Nothing too interesting there.

And that's all to examine in this room. With nothing to do, we leave the room...

Music stops


Hyde! What in the Sam Hill do ya think yer doin'?!

Got lost. Isn't this the bar?



Hi Jeff! Haven't seen you in a while. :sadwave:

Angel... Ran to Dunning and sang like a canary, did you?

...Maybe.

You know what happens to stoolies, Angel? Watch your back.

Stoolie (noun):
1. Short for stool pigeon.

Stool pigeon (noun):
1. A police informer.
2. A person acting as a decoy.

Huh. More education from this game. And Kyle sounds eerily like a criminal boss.


Music: Drunken Waltz
What ya getting all riled up for, Hyde? Yer the one in the wrong, ya drat sneak! How'd ya get in this room?! Where'd ya get the key?!

I won't have sneaky scum like you in my place! No drat way!

Grab yer stuff! I want ya outta here now!

Huh?

Music: Dream's End
(Great... That punk Jeff ratted me out.)





drat...




Louie: 5
Rosa: 3
Dunning: 3
Martin: 2
Melissa: 2
Iris: 1
Jeff: 1


Chapter 4's off to a good start!



You can actually see from this picture earlier that there's someone on the right barely visible.



When you go to Room 217 from Room 215, you will see Jeff if you pay attention to the top/left screen. I just helpfully neglected to post it earlier.

That is why this is not the most unfair Game Over, but a lot of people get this one since they just go from point A to B without paying attention to the top screen. ...Yeah, I'm one of them.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Jeff, you little poo poo. :argh:

Also, I can't tell if Rachel is genuinely flirting or that's just her teasing Kyle for being so brooding all the time.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Last time, we...



Never mind. Let's pretend that never happened.




Music: Slow Steps
What're you doing?

I'm not doing anything. And it looks like I should be asking you that, with the way you're skulking around.

Keep asking questions. See where it gets you.

Aw, forget it. What do I care what you're up to?

Jeff goes back into his room and shuts the door. ...Moody little punk.

Yeah, Jeff. You go into your room and you'll stay there! :argh:

Anyway, we did everything in Room 217 as before. When we get out there's sound of door closing.

Huh? Someone was in the hall.

Music: Monochrome






Huh. The floor's wet. Let's check the toilet.

Music: Straight Chaser


Toilet It's a toilet. ...Looks like the tank lid is a bit off-kilter.

Not going to check it, okay. We move away a little...



Is it coming from the bathroom?

(Why is the floor wet?)

NOW we can check the toilet.



Toilet

Huh?



Our first instinct would be to flush the toilet.



Our second thought would be to check inside the toilet. We can't open the toilet lid, so we try to open the tank. Just slide it to the left.



This takes a while, so let's just skip to the end.



There's something in the tank.



Oooh! Money! :syoon:

Ah, come to papa...



The cash was in a plastic bag.

(Money in the tank, huh? Oldest trick in the book. How did this get here? Well, until I find out, I probably shouldn't keep this much cabbage on me...)

We could stash this in our suitcase, but we're not going to. We want to see the reactions to the money from other characters. By the way, the phone rings.







Phone The phone's ringing.

Better answer that.

Music: Serenity


That you, Rachel?

Everything OK? I know this is weird, but I had a strange feeling, and... Well, I called. Sorry.

Score one for woman's intuition. I got a bit of a situation here.

A situation? Oh, how I adore cop talk. What's happening?

It's the toilet in my room. Somebody decided to stash twenty large in the tank.

What? In the toilet? That's disgusting. Why would someone do that?

Search me. People got reasons for doing all sorts of crazy stuff. Whoever did it is in the hotel, though, so I'm going to find him and have a chat.

Last time you had a chat with someone, he needed stitches, remember? Take it easy, Kyle. You know Ed hates having to post bail.

How could I forget? Don't worry. I'll be on my best behavior.

Kyle: I already have a chat with 2 people and none of them needed stitches!

I'll get the checkbook ready.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Listen, you find anything on our pal, Osterzone?

I've got a friend who works in an art museum. She's looking into it. I'll give you a call as soon as I hear anything.

Appreciate it.

See ya around, handsome.

Yeah.



Now what?

(Guess it's time to roam the halls and see what's going on. Feels like I'm back on the beat again.)

Music: Monochrome
We are now left to wander around aimlessly. We'll just talk to anyone available.



Like Jeff? Sure, why not.

Music: Slow Steps
Hey, you got a minute?

What?

What are you up to?

Seriously?



Well...



You need Dunning, right?

You got business with the front desk?

That's right. That's why I'm standing here.

What do you need?

I don't think that's any business of yours.

If we try talking to him again...

You got a minute?

You're bugging me. Go away, will you?

Wasn't it nice not seeing him for the past 2 chapters? Oh, the good ol' days...

Music: Straight Chaser


By the way, remember this TV?



It's 7 PM now, so we can use it.

Knobs There's a power switch and a channel selector.



We can turn the power on.



We can also tap the channel selector (The leftmost knob) to choose the channel. None of the other knobs do anything.





And that's it. That's all to this TV. Just 2 channels (technically 3 since there's 2 channels for the news).

Music: Monochrome
Now that we don't have anything else to do, we'll just go upstairs since why not and...

Huh? Someone's in the hall.





Oh good, we can talk face-to-face with someone who isn't Jeff this update.

Music: Hangover Blues
Oh, it's you. What're you doing?

I had some business with Summer! But where is he? I don't know! He's not in his room... Oh, things are never easy for Rosa, let me tell you!

(??? You need Summer? ???)

Gosh darn it! I have to get back to the kitchen right away.

Music: Rainy Night


Read note
What're you looking at? Hmm? What is that?
Write note
What're you writing? Hmm? Hey, what is it?
Show room 217 key
No, I'm not going to do that. Although it's tempting since usually Rosa won't cause a game over this way, Louie specifically told us not to.
Show fountain pen
Huh? What? Yes, that's a pen. Very nice.
Show old photo
That? That's an old photo. No, I don't know who it is.
Show stack of cash
...Oh my goodness!
If you've got that kind of money, why are you staying here?
The same reason Summer staying here? He's a famous writer, so he should be rich, right?

Why do you need Summer?

What do you want with Summer?

Huh? What? What do I want? What do you THINK I want?! I want his autograph!

Oh.

That's right! It's not often we have a best-selling author stay here.

You've got to strike while the iron's hot, you know? Sure you do.

Wait a minute! Now wait just one minute...

Your showing up has given me an idea, Mr. Hyde!

This doesn't sound good.

Oh, hush now. Here, I want you to take this.

What is it?

It's one of Mr. Summer's novels, of course!





The name of the book is The Secret Word.

Thanks, but I'm more of a sports page kind of guy.

Don't get smart with me, mister! Just get Mr. Summer to sign it. OK? Good.

Look, I'm busy. Why do I have to-

Because I have to get back to the kitchen, that's why! Now stop grumbling.

Don't forget, Mr. Hyde! Don't you dare!

Music: Hangover Blues
Look, I'm not-

Wait a second!

Rosa turns and rushes away.

Dammit!



Well played, Rosa. Well played. :golfclap:

Music: Monochrome
Again, we just roam the halls. At least now we have SOMETHING to do. Let's see if Jeff knows where Martin is.

(There's somebody at the front desk.)



DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

"That's it, Angel! Pack your things and get out!"

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato
If only. Jeff's a jackass and I've forgotten most of this story arc too, but not his dumb antics.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Jeff is the worst.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Midnight


Oh, I ain't tryin' to call ya a liar or nothin'! It's just-

It's been stolen! There's no doubt about it.

Well, lemme see here-

I DEMAND that you start looking! I want this hotel searched now!

Look, son... I mean... Mr. Angel... Do me a favor, will ya? Take one more look through yer things.









Keep yer voice down!

Ain't no need to start in with the screamin' and hollerin'! Yer just gonna get the other guests all in a panic.

Like I care. Besides, it's too late to worry about that.

Look, that guy's already heard. And he hardly seems panicked.

Eh?

Music: Slow Steps
Something happen?

Yes, it has!





Both Kyle and Jeff are not impressed.

Mr. Angel, lemme get back to ya in a bit. I'll come up to yer room soon as I can.

Don't make me wait.

Jeff storms away from the front desk.

(??? What was that about? ???)



Now we can talk to Dunning. Come to think of it, we only talked properly to Dunning 3 times:
1. Checking in
2. Paying the fee and him giving us free food (and forgetting to lock the office door)
3. Asking where Louie is
Huh. Felt like we saw him a lot.


Music: Hangover Blues
Got a minute?

Music: Rainy Night


Read note
What're ya lookin' at?
Write note
What're ya writin'?
Show fountain pen
Yep, that's a fountain pen. So what?
Show old photo
It's a photo. Wanna see some'a mine? I got dozens.
Show Summer's novel
Summer's novel, eh? No thanks! If I wanna sleep, I'll go to bed!
Show room 217 key or stack of cash
You know what'll happen if we do this.

What was all that about?

That's the kid staying up in Room 213, right? Jeff Angel?

Yep.

What were you two chatting about?

Ain't nothin'.



...Hold it.

Yeah, I'll just refrain from making that AA reference. This phrase just keep showing up.



What happened?

Something happen?

Nope! Nothin'.

That's a lot of yelling for a bunch of nothing. He complaining about sharing his bed with roaches or something?

'Course not! Not in my place! It's just another fire I hafta put out, that's all.

(??? What was he griping about? ???)

Now I gotta figure out what I'm gonna do about it.

Music: Hangover Blues
Pardon me, do you have a moment?



Do you perchance have a copy of the newspaper?

Huh? Paper?

Yes, I was rather hoping to read the morning fish wrap.

Well, shoot... Had one layin' around here earlier...

Here ya go. Take this. Compliments'a the Dusk!

Good thing he said take this instead of that. I would've put that smiley again if that's the case.

Thank you, my good man.

Just throw it on the table in front of the couch when yer done, all right?

Of course.

Music: Rainy Night
That was a nice diversion. Well, back to business. At least now we don't have to hunt Martin down.

Oh, I almost forgot.

Show cash (again since we already showed this in a previous conversation)
Ya need change? Fine, fine. But just this once, ya hear?

Show cash (againx2)
I only give change once!
Show coins
That's the change I gave ya earlier.

We finally got the coins for the vending machine! :toot: This is the only chance to get it.
I repeat: THIS IS THE ONLY CHANCE TO GET COINS FOR THE VENDING MACHINE! After the time changes to 7.40 PM (which will happen this update) Dunning won't give coins anymore.

This is actually the hard part of the vending maching prize sidequest. Most people miss it because either they don't bother showing items, afraid that Dunning will cause a game over, or because they already showed the cash earlier and thought it won't give any new responses.
At least now it's just a matter of finding the final star.


Why was Jeff so angry?

So what's his problem?

Well, t'tell ya the truth... I don't wanna get the other guests all up in a lather, see? So let's keep this between me and you, OK?

Sure.

Sounds like something's been stolen.

Guess Angel Boy went down to the restaurant for a bite t'eat. When he got back to his room, he noticed somethin' missin'.

(??? What got stolen? ???)

What was stolen?

So what got lifted?

I ain't gonna tell ya that!



Are you serious?



You suspect me?

You think I had something to do with this?

No offense intended, right? But I ain't trustin' nobody but me on this.

Ya got that?

Now I gotta handle this with kid gloves so it don't get all blown outta whack.

And we're then kicked to the map screen.



So let's get that autograph. Note that Dunning's still there so you can still get the coins.

Music: Easy Feeling
Hmph. Sometimes I fear for our future generations...

Hey there. Spare a sec?

Oh, hello there, Mr. Hyde.

I must tell you about this article I was reading in the newspaper.

It seems there was a burglary in Beverly Hills last night. Quite brazen, really... The victim was an attorney named Larry Damon.

Mr. Damon happens to be a friend of mine, you see? I do hope he is doing well.

Yes, well, I apologize for the tangent. Did you perchance need something?

You know Rosa? The maid? Well, she asked me for a favor. You mind signing this book for her? Seems she's a big fan of yours.

Oh! But of course!

Great.

My apologies, but would you mind bringing it up to my room later? I apologize for the trouble, but...

Hell, why not? I'm already in this thing up to my eyeballs anyway.

How generous of you, Kyle.

Summer puts down the newspaper and leaves the lobby.



We can now read the newspaper.

Music: Straight Chaser

Newspaper There's a copy of some local rag on the table. The date on the paper is December 28. That's today. What do you know?

Upper-left article There's an article about a burglary on the left side of the front page.

The Beverly Hills home of attorney Larry Damon was burglarized last night. Police say that $20,000 and a pistol were taken from a safe in the study. The perpetrators then fled the scene in Damon's car. A police spokesman said they are actively pursuing the case.
Lower-left article There's an article about an art exhibit below the burglary story.

American foremost modern art collection is coming to the Central Gallery. The collection features works by many bright young painters. The event promises to be fun for the whole family, and a great way to ring in 1980!
Right article There's also a personal ad on the front page.

Meet me on your birthday in the hotel where we last saw each other. -H.



Music: Monochrome
Now let's go to Martin's room and see if we can get the autograph for



Rosa... Wait, she should've met Martin!




Music: Hangover Blues
Stop! Stop! I'm cleaning the hallway, Mr. Hyde! You'll have to wait!

Look, I just need to get through here-

I SAID, WAIT! Now wait! I'll be done in a little bit, OK? Fine. But I'm glad to see you anyway.

Did you get Mr. Summer's autograph for me like I asked?

I asked him, but I don't have it yet.

You don't? Why not?! What's the holdup? Land sakes, it's not hard!

Don't growl at me about it. Want it done fast, shoulda done it yourself. Hell, Summer just walked by a few minutes ago.

He walked through here? Mr. Summer? Really?

Yeah, I was just talking to him by the front desk.

Stop teasing me, Mr. Hyde! I've been here cleaning for longer than that. Mr. Summer did not come anywhere near me, and for a fact!

Wait, that doesn't make sense.

He said he was going back to his room, and it's on the second floor, right? So then he had to come through here.

Well, usually, but...



Hey...



Other stairs?

What do you mean, other stairs?

I mean the stairs that aren't THESE stairs! The back stairs!

Maybe he used the back stairs to get to his room.

Music: Rainy Night


Read note
What are you looking at?
Write note
What are you writing?
Show Summer's novel
No reaction at all. It's like nothing happened.

There are more stairs?

So where are the back stairs?

Just go out the door in the lobby and head down the right hallway.

You can't miss the stairs. They go up to...well, they go up to the second floor, of course. I bet Mr. Summer used them when he saw me cleaning these in here. Mmm-hmm!

Got it.

You can go ahead and use them, but you have to remember something. The door to the stairs is locked on the second-floor side!

Music: Hangover Blues
Don't forget about my autograph, all right? Promise me now!

Yeah, yeah.

Music: Monochrome








We'll do the usual rounds. This'll be much quicker since none of the doors can be opened.


Knock I guess knocking on random doors isn't the best way to meet people.
Knob Locked. And here I am without a key. ...Or an axe.

Knock No one's coming to the door. Maybe I should've called first.
Knob This door's not opening without a fight, and I'm too tired to kick it.


Knock Nobody's in. Well, at least I'm getting really good at knocking.
Knob Locked. Question is, are they locking me out or someone else in?

We'll go upstairs next time. For now, enjoy the descriptions for the new items.

Music: So Noted

The maps haven't been filled, but the game just told us (technically me since I didn't show it) what the rooms are. From the top: storage, Rosa's room, and Dunning's room.

The nice thing about this is that it accounts for the dollar we trade for the coins (it used to say 30 bucks).
The bad thing is the typo that doesn't exist before. And that I missed showing the description before paying the hotel fee (it used to say 70 bucks).

That's the amount of money before we pay the rent.







1234567890num fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Mar 12, 2018

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Showing the cash to Dunning causing a game over is a little silly. Why would I steal cash from someone and then come and show it to you if I'm guilty?

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1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

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