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curling is on nbcsn
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# ? Nov 18, 2017 23:39 |
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# ? May 5, 2024 10:33 |
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This is boxing's big chance to make a comeback.
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# ? Nov 19, 2017 00:40 |
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General Dog posted:This is boxing's big chance to make a comeback. There are exciting things happening in boxing! No really, I'm serious.
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# ? Nov 19, 2017 00:42 |
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General Dog posted:This is boxing's big chance to make a comeback. Ah yes, the only bloodsport in existence with MORE permanent brain damage issues than football.
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# ? Nov 19, 2017 12:26 |
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The CTE issue killing football participation is real. I live in a football crazy town in a football crazy state, everything is college football, NFL football, MY FANTASY TEAM etc. all day every day. Even before the current bullshit with Trump poo poo stirring the Kaep situation, I've heard more than one of the upper middle class to well off people that I work with (who are really into football) express that they'll never let their kids play because of this. My sister's family has expressed that also (different state). I suspect within ten years it'll be entirely a game of poor kids (more than it is now) and then die out not too long after.
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# ? Nov 19, 2017 16:44 |
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Grittybeard posted:There are exciting things happening in boxing! Canelo vs. GGG was a great fight! ... up until the judges' ruling.
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# ? Nov 19, 2017 19:36 |
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Zwabu posted:The CTE issue killing football participation is real. I live in a football crazy town in a football crazy state, everything is college football, NFL football, MY FANTASY TEAM etc. all day every day. Even before the current bullshit with Trump poo poo stirring the Kaep situation, I've heard more than one of the upper middle class to well off people that I work with (who are really into football) express that they'll never let their kids play because of this. My sister's family has expressed that also (different state). But that begs the question of how much talent upper middle class well off people were contributing to the upper levels to begin with.
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 20:54 |
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General Dog posted:But that begs the question of how much talent upper middle class well off people were contributing to the upper levels to begin with. Almost all of the QB's.
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 20:59 |
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General Dog posted:But that begs the question of how much talent upper middle class well off people were contributing to the upper levels to begin with. I would say at the QB position, quite a bit. It costs money to go to all these QB development camps, which is how they end up getting scouted and rated as the #1 Pro Style or #3 Dual Threat QBs, which leads to better (football) schools recruiting more aggressively, resulting in higher profile and exposure for the draft.
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:00 |
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swickles posted:I would say at the QB position, quite a bit. It costs money to go to all these QB development camps, which is how they end up getting scouted and rated as the #1 Pro Style or #3 Dual Threat QBs, which leads to better (football) schools recruiting more aggressively, resulting in higher profile and exposure for the draft. I had the same thought, but on the other hand are the Marv Marinovich-style psycopath sports dads who produce these quarterbacks really going to be scared off so soon?
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:06 |
beejay posted:This subforum can't even seriously talk about a major problem in the sport it's dedicated to without getting nonsensically derailed. I don't know if it's denial or just the bleak realization that nothing can be done and the sport will keep mass-producing brain damaged people until it goes away. Either way, Well, what would we really talk about? This is a social change based on something that TFF readers realized was happening almost a decade ago. We've already came to our conclusions and opinions and all, we're just watching it play out now finally that it's penetrated into general societal awareness. One of the biggest draws of football is the strength vs. strength struggles. If you take that away, take away both the lineman struggle and the tackling, and turn it into flag football then a lot of the anticipation and tension is taken out of the game. Moving more towards rugby might work. But the whole appeal of football is that there's an use for every body type, a place for the short speedsters, a place for the huge brawny slow men, a place for the agile men with hops. Baseball is horrible to watch on TV, but fantastic in person. Football kind of sucks to watch in person tbqh but is perfectly suited for TV thanks to replays, multiple camera angles, and chatter/stats in between plays. Hockey is entertaining both in person and on TV, as is soccer to a lesser extent. Lacrosse should be more popular than it is, IMO. Plenty of gear to protect players, dazzling shots, plenty of room to make plays. Straight up tackling people or collisions are much rarer than in football, and still less violent than in hockey. Mandating that you lead with your hands and banning cross-checks reduces the damage that any one hit can do, while keeping an element of violence and strength in the game.
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 23:16 |
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Lacrosse is also really hard to get into as a player. We were joking in hockey chat that the thread should be subtitled "trust fund stick"
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 23:19 |
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Ehud posted:lol if you haven't started mentally preparing to make basketball your #1 sport go thunder
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# ? Nov 21, 2017 01:23 |
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Ehud posted:lol if you haven't started mentally preparing to make basketball your #1 sport If I wanted to watch a bunch of dudes standing around while one guy makes a play, I'd watch the Raiders defense
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# ? Nov 21, 2017 02:12 |
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a neat cape posted:If I wanted to watch a bunch of dudes standing around while one guy makes a play, I'd watch the Raiders defense the one guy making a play is on the opposing offense right
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# ? Nov 21, 2017 02:23 |
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Why on earth are we not feilding Rugby as an alternative? WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN RUGBY TYPE
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# ? Nov 21, 2017 02:43 |
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Suspect Bucket posted:Why on earth are we not feilding Rugby as an alternative? WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN RUGBY TYPE We did, its what we're playing
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# ? Nov 21, 2017 04:21 |
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Imagine if they find CTE in OJ's brain.
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# ? Nov 21, 2017 05:27 |
algebra testes posted:Imagine if they find CTE in OJ's brain. Then he's as murderer who also has CTE.
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# ? Nov 21, 2017 11:04 |
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Cross-lifting from the NHL N/V:glynnenstein posted:Ugh. This is shockingly terrible. The NYT updates from Stephen Peat's father on his struggles with post-concussion related problems.
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# ? Nov 21, 2017 19:02 |
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…And they say the Canadian health care system is superior to the US system. J/K this is just all around.
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# ? Nov 21, 2017 22:10 |
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Android Apocalypse posted:…And they say the Canadian health care system is superior to the US system. Yeah... fights are a part of hockey, but for how long?
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 01:45 |
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iospace posted:Yeah... fights are a part of hockey, but for how long? They've been gone from the college game for years now and I gotta be honest, I have not missed them.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 01:46 |
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How is fighting in Hockey still a thing? Is there much backlash against it? As someone who doesn't watch the sport it's one thing I find mystifying
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:06 |
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Fighting is a holdover from the days when the idea of "policing your own" was a thing. Back in the day you'd have guys crushing stars with somewhat legal hits and if the ref didn't call it, they'd keep up with the punishment. Eventually you'll have guys square off to keep this poo poo from boiling over into bench-clearing brawls. It eventually evolved into a system of enforcers that do nothing but get into fisticuffs with other enforcers when the mood of a fight is in the air. These days just having a roster spot for an enforcer that can't play actual hockey is detrimental to the whole team in terms of winning, so fighting is definitely on its way out. If you got time to kill read up on the history of fighting in the NHL. It's fascinating.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:14 |
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Android Apocalypse posted:It eventually evolved into a system of enforcers that do nothing but get into fisticuffs with other enforcers when the mood of a fight is in the air. So not every gets in fights? Like what would happen if someone threw down with Wayne Gretzky?
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:20 |
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sponges posted:So not every gets in fights? Like what would happen if someone threw down with Wayne Gretzky? Gretzky probably wouldn't fight. He's too important to risk losing for two minutes. Also trying to fight someone wearing heavy pads seems like a vacation from the insanely physical act of playing hockey
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:23 |
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It's one of those weird unwritten rules in hockey. You don't go after a star unless they're the one that's instigating the fight. Otherwise you got Goon on team A going after star on team B, then Goon on team B goes after star on team A. There is a sense of pride if a star can hold their own in a fight. That's how you get the Gordie Howe hat trick (a goal, an assist, and a fight in a game).
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:23 |
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Goalie fights rule
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:24 |
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sponges posted:So not every gets in fights? Like what would happen if someone threw down with Wayne Gretzky? Marty McSorley would probably kill that person
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:26 |
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Yes they do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShLRNCW-3DE My favorite is still Mike Vernon vs. Patrick Roy. Those old Avalanche/Red Wings feuds were when I was following hockey the most frequently.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:27 |
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I also recognize that while fights in hockey are really exciting, I don't really need it in the sport. The fate of Derek Boogaard is one of the most tales you'll read.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:28 |
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Android Apocalypse posted:Yes they do. I still love the Miller/Bernier fight from a few years back
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:30 |
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Fighting in the NHL seems way down from where it's been in like the 80s and 90s. Someone less lazy than me could look up the number of fighting majors.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 03:04 |
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I'm sure cte is why oj murdered nicole
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 04:25 |
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OJ’s estate would definitely use that defense when he dies.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 05:22 |
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a neat cape posted:Goalie fights rule The seriously do. The league, via the AHL, is taking steps to curb fighting. Any fight after your 10th in a season is going to result in a suspension. Now while the chances of that happening are slim, it still sends a message. Scrums around the net and whatnot will still happen, and rarely do those get assessed any form of penalty (similar to how it works in the NFL). DJExile posted:Fighting in the NHL seems way down from where it's been in like the 80s and 90s. Someone less lazy than me could look up the number of fighting majors.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 07:30 |
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got any sevens posted:I'm sure cte is why oj murdered nicole no, it's why he wrote a book about murdering her
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 08:42 |
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OJ didn’t kill her
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 12:26 |
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# ? May 5, 2024 10:33 |
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Time posted:OJ didn’t kill her He did in Civil Court which is why he couldnt pay for any of his bar tabs in miami.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 18:53 |