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gtrmp posted:“Essentially what the dollar stores are betting on in a large way is that we are going to have a permanent underclass in America. It’s based on the concept that the jobs went away, and the jobs are never coming back, and that things aren’t going to get better in any of these places.” 
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So what are the signs of a dying mall? Strangely in Canada a bad sign is government offices moving in. My experience is kinda limited, but another thing that (used) to mean a dying mall was a call center moving in, - usually with hefty government subsidies. This was in a particular province in the early 2000s tho Though in Brampton, a large mall is also the 'city center' - directly off it are government buildings like offices, the Library, as well as city hall and the main police station. I'd imagine that'd make the mall a smidge more resilient
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This dead mall opens with a convincing demo of hell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOlffr73fuM
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Nov 24, 2017 03:00
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buy an empty mall and turn it into a huge laser tag arena Or paintball gun??
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Calibanibal posted:buy an empty mall and turn it into a huge laser tag arena Thanks for the idea 14 year old me
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MizPiz posted:Thanks for the idea 14 year old me it's pretty much the only thing you can do with those facilities once all the stores are gone. although I've been to indoor paintball arenas, and they're loving disgusting.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:it's pretty much the only thing you can do with those facilities once all the stores are gone. although I've been to indoor paintball arenas, and they're loving disgusting. I'm picturing hydroponic farms Or maybe drone racing tracks (I've been playing Mario Kart lately)
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Nov 25, 2017 21:02
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jesus loving christ
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Duscat posted:amazon actually makes a clear distinction between these, and i always order from merchants that are "fulfilled by amazon" if at all possible, because then i get free prime shipping AND amazon's amazing return policy, so i don't have to exchange 20 emails with some rear end in a top hat in murfreesboro if they send me garbage, just go to the return form, enter the reason, and a ups guy shows up the next day to pick up your thing, and if it's amazon's fault or the seller's, return shipping is also free Look at this dipshit thinking people undercut Amazon instead of the other way around
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Nebakenezzer posted:I'm picturing hydroponic farms if you want to repurpose them for indoor agriculture, it'd be more efficient to just demolish the mall and construct facilities that are purpose-made for maximizing production. The main reason to keep the mall around for any business is to exploit its novelty value.
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Nov 26, 2017 06:44
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Actually, malls have such a massive amount of space and decent enough lighting, you could repurpose them for museums.
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Nov 26, 2017 06:45
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The dead-ish mall near me rents one of it's anchors out to the local library
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Nov 26, 2017 07:40
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turn them into labor camps for the poor
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:turn them into labor camps for the poor but thats what they already were 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:if you want to repurpose them for indoor agriculture, it'd be more efficient to just demolish the mall and construct facilities that are purpose-made for maximizing production. The main reason to keep the mall around for any business is to exploit its novelty value. Good to know. I figured they were kinda like that Flak tower in Berlin, y'know, too expensive to tear down? Now that I've said it out loud I see the flaw in that thinking Scrub-Niggurath posted:turn them into labor camps for the poor Sanctuary District at the Galleria
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Nov 26, 2017 18:22
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alternative idea: excellent Battle Royale stadiums
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gtrmp posted:“Essentially what the dollar stores are betting on in a large way is that we are going to have a permanent underclass in America. It’s based on the concept that the jobs went away, and the jobs are never coming back, and that things aren’t going to get better in any of these places.” directly profit off welfare funds to buy state legislature to enact policy which furthers the underclasses' immiseration https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/10/10/state-for-sale quote:Because Variety Wholesalers is privately owned, its operations are less transparent than those of a publicly traded company. Ray Gaul, the director of global research at Kantar Retail, a consultant to suppliers such as Procter & Gamble, says of Variety, “We tried to understand what they do, but they’re fairly black-hole-ish.” Gaul says that his research department followed Variety for ten years, before dropping its coverage in 2007. “They were struggling to open new stores,” he says. “A lot of these stores would be considered underperforming compared to Walmart or Dollar General.” (In an e-mail, Pope said, “I readily acknowledge that Variety ‘underperforms’ by some, but not all, measures, compared to Walmart,” but he stressed that his stores are among the few regional merchandisers that, in recent years, have not just survived but grown.) 
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The Muppets On PCP posted:directly profit off welfare funds to buy state legislature to enact policy which furthers the underclasses' immiseration All capitalism is terrible, you say?
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gtrmp posted:“Essentially what the dollar stores are betting on in a large way is that we are going to have a permanent underclass in America. It’s based on the concept that the jobs went away, and the jobs are never coming back, and that things aren’t going to get better in any of these places.” nor do i see any reason to doubt the "concept", unless you can think of some way to restore the situation of 1945 where europe had smashed itself to bits after subordinating other countries around the world, leaving the US and USSR to grab what they could
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Nov 26, 2017 21:17
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Gazpacho posted:nor do i see any reason to doubt the "concept", unless you can think of some way to restore the situation of 1945 where europe had smashed itself to bits after subordinating other countries around the world, leaving the US and USSR to grab what they could Well, Poland seems to be going full Nazi so the table's being set for that.
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Nov 26, 2017 21:21
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BRB, going to write a op ed under David Brooks' biline how society will fall apart now that women do not have oppressively thin mannequins to aspire to Possibly I'll support this by saying the Ancient Greeks and Romans built statues
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Gazpacho posted:this is the take of some guy who isn't involved in the dollar stores' decisions and tbh i don't see anything wrong with their expansion They're garbage stores selling garbage that only exist because we have created a gigantic underclass by not paying a living wage
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Nov 26, 2017 23:32
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 Century III Mall in pittsburgh
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The most obvious use for dead malls is as makeshift shelters for climate refugees. Gonna need a lot of space when sea levels off the east coast rise like 20 feet between 2040 and 2050.
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Nov 27, 2017 15:45
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This fits into this thread. a wonderfully erudite woman mocking the poo poo out of McMansions: http://mcmansionhell.com/post/161329177461/50-states-of-mcmansion-hell-harford-county
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Nov 27, 2017 22:04
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god i hate mcmansions. i used to live in one, and the town was filled with them because it was new growth hell. it didn't even have sidewalks
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Nov 27, 2017 22:05
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Somehow there is a Wikipedia article on dead malls, and it actually cites Newsweek "declaring the indoor mall obsolete in 2008."
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McMansion hell owns. the author is cspam as hell and does communications for Baltimore DSA iirc
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The most obvious use for dead malls is as makeshift shelters for climate refugees. Gonna need a lot of space when sea levels off the east coast rise like 20 feet between 2040 and 2050. Large parking decks can also be retrofitted into shelters.
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hey man, the future sucks
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I live in an exurb with an outlet mall. The outlets seem to be doing pretty well, but since sales tax makes up something like 2/3 of the city budget, everyone's worried that we'll have to close schools once amazon closes the outlets. Ok, not everyone's worried, they did just choose to build a giant new fortress of a police station.
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:i got banned from the mall for flippin off a county police lol I got yelled at for skateboarding in the mall. Like that's all that happened. I got yelled at.
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:I got yelled at for skateboarding in the mall. how old are you
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:how old are you 
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Nebakenezzer posted:This fits into this thread. a wonderfully erudite woman mocking the poo poo out of McMansions: lol 
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Ron Jeremy posted:I live in an exurb with an outlet mall. The outlets seem to be doing pretty well, but since sales tax makes up something like 2/3 of the city budget, everyone's worried that we'll have to close schools once amazon closes the outlets. outdoor shopping centers, especially destination ones like outlet malls tend to do okay in part because their profit per square foot is something like 4-5x that of indoor malls
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The Muppets On PCP posted:outdoor shopping centers, especially destination ones like outlet malls tend to do okay in part because their profit per square foot is something like 4-5x that of indoor malls How is this possible? It's the same goddamn stores, embedded in a vast parking lot
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Nebakenezzer posted:How is this possible? It's the same goddamn stores, embedded in a vast parking lot outlet malls are permanent sales so people think they're gettin big a good deal most of the time they aren't since like 90% of the items they have there are outlet store only or stuff that never sold for other reasons
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It's pretty hilarious how the US mall concept was created by a immigrant who wanted to create the natural organic feel of European cities like Vienna and Paris.
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