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they ruined fiddle because i miss the stupid bouncing crow
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Endorph posted:they ruined fiddle because i miss the stupid bouncing crow i think his rework is an unparalleled success but i also severely miss how goofy he looked bouncing around the rift. the duality of league of legends
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Apr 28, 2024 03:13
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Mordekaiser and Eve reworks are pretty good too. Yoric rework is great. And also Mundo and Sion and some others I'm forgetting.
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Apr 28, 2024 03:44
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Nunu rework introduced the giant snowball mechanic which I cannot imagine the character without.
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Apr 28, 2024 03:47
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SirSamVimes posted:Nunu rework introduced the giant snowball mechanic which I cannot imagine the character without. Yeah that one was also great. Which reworks are bad, again? Besides the skarner one apparently?
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Apr 28, 2024 03:48
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Fajita Queen posted:Yeah that one was also great. Darius one was also good. I hate the Gangplank one but I don't think it's objectively bad I just enjoyed playing as the old one and don't enjoy playing as or against the new one. Jax update's kinda meh. The Yuumi one kinda butchered her but that was highly intentional.
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the big batch of juggernaut reworks gangplank graves remember the busted kogmaw rework they had to revert current malz is pretty wonky i miss old swain in general im not a fan of just basically removing a champion from the game and calling it a rework either. just admit you removed the champion. all five pre-rework aatrox mains are weeping
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bring back old graves
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oh yeah the graves and especially gangplank reworks suck rear end. Oldschool denyplank ftw. Also idk what the hell is ever going on with ryze. Loved that guy back in the early 2010s before he got his teleport ult but idk wtf he even does anymore and I haven't seen him in a game in like 5 years. Fajita Queen fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Apr 28, 2024 04:49
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also mundos rework is fine gameplay-wise in a vacuum but i hate that he basically has the same e as sion. and also its not relevant to gameplay but whoever thought giving mundo a serious tragic backstory was a good idea is a moron
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Apr 28, 2024 04:54
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Scallop Eyes posted:Shyvanna needs a gameplay rework badly, or at least her passive, it's so loving bad She has a passive rework that makes a ton more sense in Wild Rift, have they still not ported that back to PC? Honestly Im a fan of all the Wild Rift reworks for the most part except Lux gently caress you changing that her root no longer hits minions so she can barf it with zero risk over minion packs Also just a general wild rift heads up, you can see the ban, pick, win rates of champs on the china server. Kindred is probably now the most disgusting broken champ Riots ever dumped out at this point because after a hot fix and three straight patches of nerfs she is still at 57% win rate 66% ban rate. Granted at launch she was at 70% win rate and ~85% ban rate so they've made improvements by my god is her kit just busted as poo poo for Wild Rift and they wont admit the problem has nothing to do with damage numbers.
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I am not the biggest fan of the Irelia rework, but mostly because it changed her from more of a bruiser to basically an assassin with a ton of apm stuff that I suck at.
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while they kept some of the basic components of karma's bait-and-swing playstyle it's just not the same as when you'd build up a huge chunk of AP from missing health and fan a whole team to death
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Apr 28, 2024 13:46
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honestly most of the reworks have been really great, maybe a few needing toned down (current skarner, graves/garen/darius, graves). noct would be a fun rework if you only fix his appearance, his kit is solid. shyvanna badly needs a rework. the dumbass hadouken/fireball max AP build is boring and her base kit is too all over the place. maybe the sylas game showed some interesting poo poo she could do? dunno, didnt play it Fajita Queen posted:oh yeah the graves and especially gangplank reworks suck rear end. Oldschool denyplank ftw. graves and gp took me a while but they're both pretty cool. the barrel schtick allows for a lot of cool barrel nukes or lets you deny him from doing his crap. the barrel game skill mastery is too much for me to figure out how to do well so i stopped playing him but there's other cooler things if we're talking bad reworks the spire/dominion Skarner sucked the most rear end, but a few others come to mind. dragon ghost morde and trying to force him into botlane, and pantheon's baseball slide ult and has so much of his power loaded into E were both really, really bad
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Nocts kit is completely fine, it's his visuals that look like a lame action figure with detachable armor and weapons. Shyvana needs a entire visual and gameplay overhaul and the battle bra retired.
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Old Graves was so generic I can’t imagine being still hung up on the rework. The bruiser-y shotgun guy is so much more unique and fitting to the character than what he was before.
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Firebert posted:Old Graves was so generic I can’t imagine being still hung up on the rework. The bruiser-y shotgun guy is so much more unique and fitting to the character than what he was before.
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Yeah like new Graves is more interesting sure but old Graves was a fun ADC and it's just not remotely possible for the new one to sub in for it. It'd be like if their Ashe rework had turned her into Lissandra.
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Endorph posted:he was my favorite marksman. he is now a jungler. he was mine too but then i mained jungle and he became a jungler so that's a w. also the robot skin owns. Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Nocts kit is completely fine, it's his visuals that look like a lame action figure with detachable armor and weapons. i just hope in the case of Noct they agree and dont do some stupid poo poo like Briar his ult because of emergent dynamic skill expression or some other variation of game dev jargon. he's always reminded me of something like warwick where the winrate has almost always been an even 50 or close to it. like a genuinely balanced champ
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Nocturne looks fine IMO; he's an abstract concept that doesn't need to be hyper-detailed, and his skills are clearly legible. We got a redesign in Runeterra, and the base is strong enough that the input from an incredible team of artists who have made crappy throwaway concepts mesh as a cohesive world amounted to: purple tint, purple eyes, smokestack fog, spindly hands.  At the most, I'd see about a texture update, since they are pretty low-res at this point. Full VU though? I feel like that's better served for base designs so primitive that they actively harm readability & the skins.
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yeah that runeterra nocturne looks fine. spookier but still the same basically. you could maybe make the weapons more like gnarled and weird looking rather than looking like actual weapons because its weird for a spooky ghost guy to just wield steel handblades. but i dont think he needs some radical overdesigned overhaul.
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Fajita Queen posted:Yeah that one was also great.
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I am still bitter about the Trundle and Karma reworks. Anyone I think there are increasingly few champions that need full on VGUs but most of the cast needs ASUs.
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Bell_ posted:I'm probably in the minority, but I miss Terminator Poppy. Old poppy was my favorite character in the game and I don't really like playing the new one.
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diplomatic immunity was one of the funniest ultimates in the game. just completely no-sold everything that doesn't come from the target.
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Catgirl Al Capone posted:diplomatic immunity was one of the funniest ultimates in the game. just completely no-sold everything that doesn't come from the target. It ruled and Riot were cowards for getting rid of it.
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nocturne is just fiddlesticks except lame
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Welp, got my first loss due to Vanguard - in the middle of the game, it popped up a message telling me that Arena is a "Vanguard Event" and that I need vanguard to be running. It's in the system tray and I can see it in task manager, so I try to rejoin a few times and it kicks me out. After a few minutes, it eventually pops up a message telling me there was a vanguard error and the client will close. Neat! Love to have this poo poo running in my kernel.
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Yeah I uninstalled when the Vanguard update dropped.
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dont worry though, its definitely gotten rid of hackers and bots
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If it doesn't stop poo poo like this what's even the point of vanguard? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_lT5K3PSoE I keep seeing obvious scripters in games.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:If it doesn't stop poo poo like this what's even the point of vanguard? the dual purpose of kernel-level anticheat is to increase the cost of cheating by making it more expensive due to the higher price of proprietary cheating software/hardware that can bypass direct detection and to force cheats to operate at lower efficiency so that they don't behave too inhumanly or have overlays that can be captured directly by the anticheat and run through an LLM i think it got puffed up via media coverage back during valorant's prerelease window as being, like, the ultimate invincible anticheat or whatever, but it's factually impossible to develop a perfect anticheat that doesn't involve them physically sending someone to look over your shoulder, so any escalation is simply to make it harder to trivially cheat rather than seeking to stomp it out entirely Vermain fucked around with this message at 03:16 on May 4, 2024 |
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Yeah it’s like DRM in games, the goal isn’t to stamp it out completely it’s to get rid of casual piracy. The truly dedicated will always find a way but that’s a smaller group of people to keep track of.
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njsykora posted:Yeah it’s like DRM in games, the goal isn’t to stamp it out completely it’s to get rid of casual piracy. The truly dedicated will always find a way but that’s a smaller group of people to keep track of. and just like invasive DRM in games the people it hurts the most are the ones who have never done anything and are just interacting with the product honestly and normally.
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the functional difference is that people pirating video games are not directly harming your experience of the product, whereas the same cannot be said for people cheating in a competitive environment that hinges upon a presumption of integrity
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  love to get griefed so hard that I actually gain LP for losing because riot feels bad for me
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SirSamVimes posted:
they're apparently handing out free RP for the worst cases. i think the vanguard implementation overshadowed it, but it's one of the best QoL features they've added in a decade
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I would like to know how hard someone has to grief to trigger automatic consolatory RP.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I would like to know how hard someone has to grief to trigger automatic consolatory RP. a while back there were 5 man premades whod just intentionally pick a waveclear comp/stall comp (with a teemo) and just stall as long as possible while refusing to actually try and win. the longest i saw was like 2 hours. that said waveclears been nerfed pretty heavily since (teemos shrooms have been also) and stuff like baron and soul got stronger (and theres voidbugs also) so idk if you could do that now.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I would like to know how hard someone has to grief to trigger automatic consolatory RP. In this case the Diana sold her entire inventory and starting running into towers.
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