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Oasx posted:At first i thought they were finally going full evil with the parents by having them be ok with one of their own being sacrificed, but then it just fizzled out. I think it's because he's the only one who can build the boxes.
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I don't know, it's like if Daredevil only beat up criminals in the first episode and the rest of the show he did lawyer stuff, and all his conflict was due to that or his blindless. He talked about fighting crime but it was never done. Gotham is a bad example because it was never about Batman showing up, it was about Gordon's journey. I figured this episode would of been a good time for the kids to stand up to their parents. I mean why else bring the dinosaur? Also I just really hate Jonah and his role in the show. a huge amount of wonder and mystery in the show stopped as soon as he appeared.
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Inkspot posted:. This is more like if Nip/Tuck had a merman on staff that nobody called out as a six foot dude with scales and webbed feet. Later seasons of Nip/Tuck, that wouldn't be completely out of character for the show.
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Medullah posted:Later seasons of Nip/Tuck, that wouldn't be completely out of character for the show. I was about to say ... lol
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Inkspot posted:Running away or not, they need to do something. I know nothing about the comic books other than that the kids run away but at this point in the TV Show I would not be surprised if the parents were the actual runaways and they're running the gently caress away from Jonah in the season finale. Every time the show goes back to the kids I'm like nooo go back to the parents they're way more interesting.
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twistedmentat posted:I feel like them downplaying the more comic book elements has been hurting the show, they set a bunch of stuff up, but its barely in it in, with Old Lace being the biggest example of this, but also the kids not actually running away. The show feels like its treading the water just to have more parent drama and less of a focus on the kids. Shaddap, she 22.
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New episode is mostly good and has some key developments that should have happened earlier in the season, but man, there are some unfortunate echoes of Defenders here.
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Eww, there's no Iron Fist is there?
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Gorilla Salad posted:Eww, there's no Iron Fist is there? There's metal fists, hopefully that's close enough.
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Boy the amount of references to the comic were really like slaps in the face at the things we aren't going to get: "Let's call ourselves the Runaways...for all the kids that ran away." "Nah." "Hey Chase, you want to take the Leapfrog, you know your team's awesome unique vehicle?" "Nah, I'll take a Lyft*." "Where did you go today, Molly?" "I went to check out the Tar Pits, you know where our team hides out in the comics." The ending was good but so many eyerolling moments leading up to that, it's like they remembered they're teen drama writers and needed to add in a bunch of sex stuff and a high school dance. FML, these were the wrong people to be the showrunners. Also some last ditch sympathy plays for *most* of the parents by making them be blackmailed into service. * I didn't actually know this was the spelling of it, I just guessed because I figured they'd want to be edgy and not spell it normally and guess who won the pony? edit: Speaking of Defenders it would make as much sense for them to just tie in with the Defenders and be like 'Oh Jonah is another branch of the Hand and there's another dragon buried here that he's trying to dig up so he can live forever.'
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PaybackJack posted:Boy the amount of references to the comic were really like slaps in the face at the things we aren't going to get: Leaving the Raptor in the car pissed me off.
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PaybackJack posted:The ending was good but so many eyerolling moments leading up to that, it's like they remembered they're teen drama writers and needed to add in a bunch of sex stuff and a high school dance. FML, these were the wrong people to be the showrunners. I understand your other complaints, but if teen drama and will-they-won't-they sex stuff bothers you, that really isn't the show's fault. It *is* a teen drama. Appealing to a ~15yo demographic who hates their parents and wants to gently caress their crush at the dance is absolutely what they should be doing. That's who this is aimed at. If you wanted sushi, you shouldn't have gone to a pizza place. (Why Alex wanted to call them "The Runaways" was dumb as poo poo, though, I agree.)
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Wait that was the season finale??? I was gonna say it was an okay episode but drat not as a finale
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Jan 4, 2018 02:39
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No, there's one next week.
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precision posted:Wait that was the season finale??? I was gonna say it was an okay episode but drat not as a finale Next week is the finale.
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Jan 4, 2018 02:43
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I see it's finally been so long since the establishment of the MCU that they've actually forgotten that Stark solved the world's energy problems in Iron Man 1. A renewable energy source isn't a great cover for a universe that has arc reactors.
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tbf, big plot point of iron man 1 is literally that tony feels his efficient arc reactor tech is too dangerous to unleash, or something, so the world at large only knew of his gimmick inefficient big one source: iron man 1 was on tv the other day maybe this changed in iron man 2 but i forgot I’m just pointing out because I see people post ‘tony already solved energy forever, those marvel dumbos!’ but afaik only like the Avengers and maybe SHIELD have that stuff
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LeafyOrb posted:I see it's finally been so long since the establishment of the MCU that they've actually forgotten that Stark solved the world's energy problems in Iron Man 1. A renewable energy source isn't a great cover for a universe that has arc reactors. I don't think runaways is actually in the MCU. It's in its own little bubble, which is for the best to be honest.
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iirc the pilot originally had them running away, but ABC execs said don't do that immediately. So I wouldn't put the blame entirely on Schwartz/Savage. Though the decision to stretch it out an entire season was likely theirs.
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Rocksicles posted:Leaving the Raptor in the car pissed me off. To be fair, the raptor couldn't exactly help shut off the machine, and their cover as normal kids wouldn't hold up if anyone saw that they had a living dinosaur with them.
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Oasx posted:To be fair, the raptor couldn't exactly help shut off the machine, and their cover as normal kids wouldn't hold up if anyone saw that they had a living dinosaur with them. Dinosaur photoshoot. It's a story that sells itself.
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i've often thought the show is too slow, and i still think that it could have been handled more efficiently, but drat if the showdown at the end didn't deliver on all the buildup. still could've been done like halfway into the season, but it was fun to explore the characters of the parents this much.
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LeafyOrb posted:I see it's finally been so long since the establishment of the MCU that they've actually forgotten that Stark solved the world's energy problems in Iron Man 1. A renewable energy source isn't a great cover for a universe that has arc reactors. Tony sets up the prototype for Stark Tower in Avengers. The only other person he lets use an arc reactor is Rhodey. Vulture tries to steal a bunch in Spider-Man. So no, that technology isn't in the hands of anyone but Tony and his best friend right now.
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I watched 1-8 as a big lump and then had to wait a week for 9 so the pacing to me hasn't felt as off I think. It all works pretty well when linked together. I wonder if the show will come onto the TV here in the UK? So far it feels like it can't be getting many viewers since this thread is so very slow. I'll admit I'm only watching it because my girlfriend loves the comics, I'd never heard of them until now.
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PaybackJack posted:This felt like a episode that was 80% padding. Oasx posted:Also, i must have missed it but why exactly is Victor Stein so important? Elentor posted:Every time the show goes back to the kids I'm like nooo go back to the parents they're way more interesting. PaybackJack posted:edit: Speaking of Defenders it would make as much sense for them to just tie in with the Defenders and be like 'Oh Jonah is another branch of the Hand and there's another dragon buried here that he's trying to dig up so he can live forever.' Gluten Freeman posted:I don't think runaways is actually in the MCU. It's in its own little bubble, which is for the best to be honest.
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Tiggum posted:Why are any of them? What are they trying to do? There is absolutely no way any of this makes any sense when (if) we find out what it's all been about. Jonah has promised them something incredible and they're all trying to work towards what that is/was. I dunno, I don't feel like their motivation is badly explained at all.
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I'm fully expecting this 'showdown' to be cut short by the opening credits. Probably by the staff knocking them all out? Then, they'll talk to a sympathetic parent who'll let them go and will sacrifice themselves. I started really liking this show, but 'Runaways' really doesn't fit with the Teen High Melodrama they manufacture. I suppose we all want things to kick off.
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Pretty much. I understand, and am still on board with, a lot of the deviations from the comic. Giving the remaining parents more development. The kids trying to keep the facade up while they investigate. All good. Benefit of the doubt. But after Alex’s “Let’s call ourselves The Runaways!” and yet another episode where 3/4ths of it could have easily been cut, I realized I’m actually hatewatching this now. Which is a shame, because the talent is there. The production value is there. Genetically engineered dinosaurs and flying cars aside, all the pieces for a great adaptation are accounted for. But because there’s so little else to latch onto, and my expectations have been so thoroughly lowered, I spend more time wondering why Stein’s company isn’t Lidenbrock instead of Nemo if Journey to the Center of the Earth is supposed to be so thematically relevant than I do what Jonah’s deal is. Karolina seems to have given up trying to figure out why she has powers. Same with Molly. And Nico, whose mom told her the staff only works for them, never asked why. Or what it is. Or what it’s for. Like she doesn’t care. And if none of the characters can be bothered to care about what’s happening to them, why should I?
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i think a loooooot of yall are still not getting that this is a teen drama first and a superhero show very distantly second and i think that's fine, i like it
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precision posted:i think a loooooot of yall are still not getting that this is a teen drama first and a superhero show very distantly second Yeah I came in to this expecting a teen drama with a superhero backdrop and I have gotten exactly what I came in for.
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That's all well and good for you guys, but some of us came here because Runaways was one of the best comics printed during the early 2000s and seeing the characters and story that made it great get shoved aside and watered down for the mainstream Gossip Girl audience is depressing and frustrating. There are some good changes but this just feels like another situation where the people behind the scenes didn't really want to make a show that captured what the genre and source material were really about and instead decided to just do their own thing. It's obviously not as bad a situation as the last Fantastic Four movie turned out to be, since at least in this instance is seems like the producers/studio are happy with the direction the showrunners are taking it. Clearly though the direction is focused on telling bog standard teen drama tropes and not on anything that actually makes the show unique and interesting which is the supernatural superhero aspect of it. There's a whole channel called the CW full of teen drama shows that have interesting premises that they never go into because it's easier to write stories about character having wildly shifting emotions and hormones; maybe in the future they can avoid using acclaimed niche comic books as a foundation to sell the same mediocre drama that they peddle in every show on the CW.
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Comic spoilerly stuff: Is it weird that Chase's dad is named Victor? Did the parents have names in the comics? Is his new form going to be that of a teenage robot? The "he" who knows from the dead sister's text message is totally Alex, right?
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They would have to come up with new poo poo to properly adapt the source, anyway. The first arc alone is like a movie and some change worth of content. Then from the second arc onward there would need to be a decent amount of alteration to cut out characters tied to the MCU/other studios etc, and is also very short. Then they would need to pretend Joss Whedon's arc never happened ... then do their own thing. I'm happier, I think, with them doing their own thing from the go and tying in some stuff from the first arcs. And I'm pretty happy they got my fave trashy teen showrunners to do it.
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precision posted:i think a loooooot of yall are still not getting that this is a teen drama first and a superhero show very distantly second
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What do you mean "nothing happens" in this show? We're still in season 1 and Gert has already hooked up with McHandsome. The relationships between the kids and between the adults is getting explored and explained and... I dunno what to tell you, of all the things to complain about, I would put "slow pace" very low on the list. But maybe that's just me 
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I mentioned about how the show feels afraid to embrace the comics fully, and another goon mentioned that it fells almost like a show from an earlier time, and I realize, its Smallville. yea there's comic stuff, but the main focus is interpersonal drama.
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Just curious, are there people who haven't read the comics who feel that nothing is happening?
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precision posted:What do you mean "nothing happens" in this show? We're still in season 1 and Gert has already hooked up with McHandsome. GigaPeon posted:Just curious, are there people who haven't read the comics who feel that nothing is happening?
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GigaPeon posted:Just curious, are there people who haven't read the comics who feel that nothing is happening? I just read the comics precisely because I was feeling nothing was happening. Like, I enjoyed the premise of the show and I rarely read comics of shows I'm watching, but seeing all these interesting concepts going nowhere for almost 10 episodes made me go read the comics and I don't regret it. To me the pace of the show is glacial.
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