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Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

Pick posted:

As a child, my dad would tell me it was bedtime by saying "Bedtime for Bonzo!" and as a child I had no idea wtf he was talking about or that he was referring to me as a chimpanzee that used to hang out with ronald reagan

the chimp got top billing

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Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
My husband was using my computer and asked me: "Have you been looking up cowboy porn?" Turns out the Longarm quote was the last thing I had c/ped and he accidentally pasted it into a search bar

The things I do for you people

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Pththya-lyi posted:

My husband was using my computer and asked me: "Have you been looking up cowboy porn?" Turns out the Longarm quote was the last thing I had c/ped and he accidentally pasted it into a search bar

The things I do for you people

I literally just laughed out loud when I read that!

That reminds me, the other night I asked my girlfriend if she'd ever heard of those Longarm books and she said that she had. It turns out that early in her career she had to edit a competing line of softcore Western romance novels for men. I had no idea that was actually a genre, let alone one with at least two lines of books dedicated to it! Anyway, she told me about how the publisher was an old man, and one day he lectured her at length about how he would never, ever allow cunnilingus to appear in one of his books because it is filthy and has no place in a semi-pornographic cowboy sex book.

awyeahz
Aug 21, 2005

~*~BeDtImE~4~B0NZ0~*~

Pick posted:

As a child, my dad would tell me it was bedtime by saying "Bedtime for Bonzo!" and as a child I had no idea wtf he was talking about or that he was referring to me as a chimpanzee that used to hang out with ronald reagan

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Gutter Phoenix posted:

Bart Ehrman is a world-renowned scholar of ancient Christianity, and also writes a lot of great books on the subject aimed at the general public. I wasn't sure if I had this one, but for a mere dollar I was willing to take the risk. Turns out I do have it. Oh well, it's a good book. I'll give it to a friend.


This poo poo is fuckin nuts -- loving crazy poo poo.

"The Lord is like a shepherd who has 100 sheep. One of them went astray, which was the largest. He left the 99, he sought for that one until he found it. Having wearied himself, he says to that sheep: ‘I desire thee more than the 99.’"
Talking about how fasting and prayer mean nothing and accomplish nothing.
"Whoever does not hate his father and his mother, shall not be able to become a Disciple to me."
"I shall destroy this house, and no one will be able to rebuild it."
Talking about how if you don't "get it," like right now while you're still alive, you're gonna die and stay dead. (this one is super fuckin crazy and basically slam dunks the entire works / grace argument into the dumpster)

In the same book as the above have several warnings that are really weirdly constructed and are based around the concept things eating things and becoming what they ate, or the thing they ate becoming what ate it. Like if a lion eats a man it becomes a man. Talks about eating the dead or dying and being eaten by someone else. A lot of becoming dead and becoming alive in various ways, but drinking from Jesus' mouth gives eternal life. Like he's describing his literal words as salvation itself? Like if you just understand what he's saying you'll live forever?? And the beginning of the book flat out states that if you learn the meaning of his words you will have salvation. Really weirdly set up.

Like it's obviously extremely similar to the regular Jesus, but different enough to be really jarring. Hard edged jesus. Mean jesus. There's episodes where he's a kid and he makes clay doves and brings them to life and kills them like the Twilight Zone cornfield. There's parts where you think he's about to pull a Beatitudes but it's poo poo like "Woe to the hopeless! Woe to those who rely on things that will not happen! Woe to those who hope in the flesh, the prison that will perish! Woe to the *insert multiple increasingly complex condemnations*

Based on these other writings essentially an extremely large portion of what we think of as christianity was totally bent towards a completely different kind of message. There were a lot of other gospels and they all have a slightly alien character to them, just a weird cast to the whole thing. Dunno if it was actively done or just the weird poo poo was sorta cast aside, but it is for sure absolutely impossible to live any sort of "normal" life being the kind of christian depicted in a lot of these books.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

SniperWoreConverse posted:

This poo poo is fuckin nuts -- loving crazy poo poo.

"The Lord is like a shepherd who has 100 sheep. One of them went astray, which was the largest. He left the 99, he sought for that one until he found it. Having wearied himself, he says to that sheep: ‘I desire thee more than the 99.’"
Talking about how fasting and prayer mean nothing and accomplish nothing.
"Whoever does not hate his father and his mother, shall not be able to become a Disciple to me."
"I shall destroy this house, and no one will be able to rebuild it."
Talking about how if you don't "get it," like right now while you're still alive, you're gonna die and stay dead. (this one is super fuckin crazy and basically slam dunks the entire works / grace argument into the dumpster)

In the same book as the above have several warnings that are really weirdly constructed and are based around the concept things eating things and becoming what they ate, or the thing they ate becoming what ate it. Like if a lion eats a man it becomes a man. Talks about eating the dead or dying and being eaten by someone else. A lot of becoming dead and becoming alive in various ways, but drinking from Jesus' mouth gives eternal life. Like he's describing his literal words as salvation itself? Like if you just understand what he's saying you'll live forever?? And the beginning of the book flat out states that if you learn the meaning of his words you will have salvation. Really weirdly set up.

Like it's obviously extremely similar to the regular Jesus, but different enough to be really jarring. Hard edged jesus. Mean jesus. There's episodes where he's a kid and he makes clay doves and brings them to life and kills them like the Twilight Zone cornfield. There's parts where you think he's about to pull a Beatitudes but it's poo poo like "Woe to the hopeless! Woe to those who rely on things that will not happen! Woe to those who hope in the flesh, the prison that will perish! Woe to the *insert multiple increasingly complex condemnations*

Based on these other writings essentially an extremely large portion of what we think of as christianity was totally bent towards a completely different kind of message. There were a lot of other gospels and they all have a slightly alien character to them, just a weird cast to the whole thing. Dunno if it was actively done or just the weird poo poo was sorta cast aside, but it is for sure absolutely impossible to live any sort of "normal" life being the kind of christian depicted in a lot of these books.

I am a big fan of the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, wherein baby Jesus kills another kid for irritating him while he's playing. The dead kid's parents complain to Joseph, who scolds Jesus and orders him to bring the kid back to life. Jesus snottily says, "You're not my father, Joseph. My dad is God." However, to keep the peace with his mom and stepdad, he relents and resurrects the kid. That's only one of the stories in one of the gospels that are included in that specific Bart Ehrman book. Good stuff.

Yeah, there were a lot of different branches of ancient Christianity, and all sorts of crazy gospels and other writings. The vast majority are lost to history, which is a real shame. Even so, it's amazing that some of them have survived at all, because most ancient writings are long gone unless they happened to have been copied (by hand) over and over and over again as the originals wore out, fell apart, and rotted away. That's why we have so many copies of the New Testament (although most manuscripts are from the middle ages), yet only fragments of most of the Christian writings that didn't make the cut for inclusion. Taken as a whole, a real case can be made for Jesus of Nazareth having been an illiterate nomad preaching an apocalyptic form of Judaism mixed with Cynic philosophy.

I think it's fascinating stuff, and I have a bunch of books full of weird old documents relating to that subject. I'm in frigid New York City for the rest of the week, but I have a lot more books to post when I get home to sunny California. I've never had much luck finding anything good for a reasonable price in any of the used bookstores I've been to during my previous visits to NYC, yet I still have hope that this trip will be different. It doesn't really matter to me because the search is half of the fun!


Since I don't have any book covers to post, I will post this picture:



Every time my girlfriend and I take the train from NYC to the suburb where her brother lives on Long island, I marvel at this Buttafuoco & Associates sign. I've never been able to get a picture, so I took this one from Yelp.

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

Pulled from our recycling bin today







Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Always scan cat books. they may be rarer than you think.

I have three of the four Space Cat books, and even bargain-hunting I've never gotten one that cost me less than $50 (and those were lucky finds). The last one is like $220 anywhere :smithicide:.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Pick posted:

Always scan cat books. they may be rarer than you think.

I have three of the four Space Cat books, and even bargain-hunting I've never gotten one that cost me less than $50 (and those were lucky finds). The last one is like $220 anywhere :smithicide:.

I googled this and have no idea what you're talking about unless you're literally buying stores called Space Cat Books for a pittance

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Aesop Poprock posted:

I googled this and have no idea what you're talking about unless you're literally buying stores called Space Cat Books for a pittance

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
hahahahaha

is the one with the kittens the rare one?

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

Never mind, not real, should have known better.

Flyball fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Jan 2, 2018

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
what in the sam gently caress

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

You should know Space Cat, Flyball. Is did you get your username elsewhere? boo.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Pick posted:

You should know Space Cat, Flyball. Is did you get your username elsewhere? boo.

Pick even for you that sentence is unintelligible. Are you Delirium from The Sandman?

Lux Anima
Apr 17, 2016


Dinosaur Gum

Aw man I used to play "space cat" with my kitty and whoosh him around when he was smaller, and he kinda looks like that cat. I forgot these books existed.

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

Pick posted:

You should know Space Cat, Flyball. Is did you get your username elsewhere? boo.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
That cat's got some muscular hammies

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope


Pulp Librarian is a great Twitter account to follow for this sort of stuff.

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

This one is quite wonderful



A


These are words with a B this time


X


1234 S items

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Nice, okay, good. we're cool. :cabot:

Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS

This neat book came in the mail the other day.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Flyball posted:

Pulled from our recycling bin today


All of those are awesome!


Pick posted:

Always scan cat books. they may be rarer than you think.

I have three of the four Space Cat books, and even bargain-hunting I've never gotten one that cost me less than $50 (and those were lucky finds). The last one is like $220 anywhere :smithicide:.

I pulled Space Cat Visits Venus, Space Cat Meets Mars, and Space Cat and the Kittens from the school district recycling bin sometime around 2006. I might have had Space Cat too, but I don't specifically remember it. When my wife and I broke up a couple of years later and we split all of the stuff we'd acquired over twelve years together, she somehow ended up with those. I had no idea they were valuable until I remembered them a few years ago and tried to track down cheap copies. Oh well.

I checked Amazon out of curiosity, and it turns out that the first two books are being republished in a few months. Hopefully the other two follow. I like having old books, but $50 - $250 apiece is way more than I'm willing to pay to replace my (free) copies of the Space Cat books. I'll probably pick up the reprints though. Space Cat is cool.

AKA Pseudonym posted:



Pulp Librarian is a great Twitter account to follow for this sort of stuff.

There was another good one that I used to look at from time to time. I think it was this:

http://awfullibrarybooks.net/


Applesnots posted:

This neat book came in the mail the other day.



I almost bought that (or something very similar) at a used book store a couple of weeks ago! Sadly, they were asking too much for it, so I had to pass.

Somewhat related, I just remembered checking out this Loompanics classic from the Portland library way back when:





I didn't end up doing any book shopping while in New York. We flew home yesterday and were stranded on a layover in Dallas for four hours longer than anticipated thanks to a broken plane and poor planning by the usually decent Southwest Airlines. Fourteen hours of terrible travel in total. My girlfriend and I were in the middle of the fifteen-minute cab ride home from the Oakland Airport when 2018 arrived at midnight. Happy New Year!

Anyway, a bunch of books arrived while I was gone, but I have to go pick them up where I get my mail delivered. I'll do that tomorrow.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Flyball posted:

This one is quite wonderful



A


These are words with a B this time


X


1234 S items


Dang this thing looks dope as hell

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Aesop Poprock posted:

Dang this thing looks dope as hell

I owned it as a kid and your summary is correct. Its sort of wasted on a kid with no patience to suss out all the words in a picture though.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
It's on amazon for like $5. I bought it

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003





Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS

Gutter Phoenix posted:




I almost bought that (or something very similar) at a used book store a couple of weeks ago! Sadly, they were asking too much for it, so I had to pass.




I found it on amazon used books for I think six bucks.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

Applesnots posted:

I found it on amazon used books for I think six bucks.

this dude is going to the kind of bookstores where you can buy something with the promise that you will put it in the recycling and not the trash when you're done

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

This book is pretty weird





Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

Flyball posted:

This book is pretty weird







Please post more about your very clearly haunted book. What is "spiritual rubberization". Is it what that foreverially tied up guy is into?

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Flyball posted:

This book is pretty weird







Holy poo poo! I love DEVO and yet I've never even heard of that book!

You have some impressive stuff. Please post more.

Doubtful Guest
Jun 23, 2008

Meanwhile, Conradin made himself another piece of toazzzzzzt.

Flyball posted:

This one is quite wonderful




Oh yes. We had one of these when I was a kid and we wasted hours staring at the bizarre pictures. Tinged with surrealist madness. I found a secondhand copy for her for Xmas and it all came flooding back to us. Including the random naked breasts which intrigued a boy in the internet-starved 80s. Page C and U. (as well as Bast on B)

The artist put loads of those on jigsaws too - S - (the Drowsy Shopkeeper) was how I found it again, given we'd forgotten everything about it other than the vague memories of the images.

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

Arrhythmia posted:

Please post more about your very clearly haunted book. What is "spiritual rubberization". Is it what that foreverially tied up guy is into?

Here's a bit of a tease, I have to go run errands.

These images are not from my own copy of this critical tome. I've never even more than barely cracked the spine, because it's so cheaply constructed. So, this is a pdf I got from somewhere.

















Gutter Phoenix posted:

Holy poo poo! I love DEVO and yet I've never even heard of that book!

I bought it at a record store in1978.


e: A review - https://www.amazon.com/My-Struggle-booji-Mark-Mothersbaugh/product-reviews/B002M02RGG

Flyball fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jan 1, 2018

Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS

Flyball posted:

Here's a bit of a tease, I have to go run errands.

These images are not from my own copy of this critical tome. I've never even more than barely cracked the spine, because it's so cheaply constructed. So, this is a pdf I got from somewhere.

I bought it at a record store in1978.


e: A review - https://www.amazon.com/My-Struggle-booji-Mark-Mothersbaugh/product-reviews/B002M02RGG

There were a lot of drugs done during the writing of that book, ah youth.

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

Pick posted:

Always scan cat books. they may be rarer than you think.

OK






e: I have a picture book by Louis Wain somewhere. I'll try to figure out where it's stored.

Flyball fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jan 2, 2018

berth ell pup
Mar 20, 2017

I am a business magnet.
these books all own. i don't even know what's right and what's real anymore since at least half could be pictures from liartown (oh i guess i already said that)

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

berth ell pup posted:

these books all own. i don't even know what's right and what's real anymore since at least half could be pictures from liartown (oh i guess i already said that)

Compost Girl could be fake, for all I know. That's a picture I found online, rather than a book I own.

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Icon-Cat
Aug 18, 2005

Meow!

Pick posted:

As a child, my dad would tell me it was bedtime by saying "Bedtime for Bonzo!" and as a child I had no idea wtf he was talking about or that he was referring to me as a chimpanzee that used to hang out with ronald reagan

I know I'm, like, the fourth person to quote this but it's blowing my mind. I've never seen a dad in an old TV sitcom or whatever use this line so I assumed it was just my dad. Bizarre.

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